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2013 MLB game 125 thread: Cards at Brewers, Tue 8/20

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Posted: 8/18/2013 4:44 PM

2013 MLB game 125 thread: Cards at Brewers, Tue 8/20 


Lance Lynn (13-6, 3.89) vs. Kyle Lohse (8-8, 3.17). 7:10 PM CT. FOX Sports Midwest and KMOX.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 9:25 AM

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Kyle has been outstanding lately, going 3-1 with a 1.66 ERA. I know he has been awful against us so far this year, but dating as far back as the beginning of June he has a 2.40 ERA so his recent success is not just a mirage. Hopefully the Cardinals continue to pound him and Lance Lynn can avoid the big inning that has hurt him so much recently.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 10:59 AM

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DMENS wrote: Kyle has been outstanding lately, going 3-1 with a 1.66 ERA. I know he has been awful against us so far this year, but dating as far back as the beginning of June he has a 2.40 ERA so his recent success is not just a mirage. Hopefully the Cardinals continue to pound him and Lance Lynn can avoid the big inning that has hurt him so much recently.
The Brewer's O isn't much.  Shaky pitching is what almost did us in last night. 

I thought Mike went with both Miller and Wacha too long last night.  I know the pen can only take so much, but going with pitchers that are having control problems in a contested game is playing russian roulette.  Mike got lucky.  I hope he doesn't push that luck when Lynn runs out of gas.  The root of the problem is too many inefficient innings from guys not named Maness or Siegrist.

It will be too bad if Wong sits tonight, just as he may be getting rid of the jitters.  Not that Freese doesn't deserve to play, but another start for Wong would be a good idea.  I like the idea of starting Carp at first, and resting one of Craig, Beltran or Holliday.  My preference would be Beltran, giving us a switch hitter with pop off the bench.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 11:11 AM

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Against Lohse:
Beltran is hitting .500/.583/.875/1.458in 48 AB's against Lohse. No way you even think about sitting him.
Holliday is hitting .444/.500/.667/1.167 over 18 AB's, so I don't sit him either.
Freese is hitting .556/.556/.667/1.222 over 9 AB's and has a history of crushing the ball in Milwaukee, so I start him too.

Craig and Carpenter are a combined 4 for 17 with just one walk. Craig is hitting .091/.259/.091/.350 over his last 27 PA's, so if you're looking for somebody to sit, that is who I would pick. Carpenter is hitting .348/.429/.565/.994 over his last 28 PA's.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 12:16 PM

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DMENS wrote: Against Lohse:
Beltran is hitting .500/.583/.875/1.458in 48 AB's against Lohse. No way you even think about sitting him.
Holliday is hitting .444/.500/.667/1.167 over 18 AB's, so I don't sit him either.
Freese is hitting .556/.556/.667/1.222 over 9 AB's and has a history of crushing the ball in Milwaukee, so I start him too.

Craig and Carpenter are a combined 4 for 17 with just one walk. Craig is hitting .091/.259/.091/.350 over his last 27 PA's, so if you're looking for somebody to sit, that is who I would pick. Carpenter is hitting .348/.429/.565/.994 over his last 28 PA's.


In light of those numbers, I'd give Craig the night off for sure, assuming you want Adams or Wong in the lineup instead.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 12:48 PM

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play Descalso at short (SS)
(leaving Wong at 2nd & Freese at 3rd)
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Posted: 8/20/2013 12:50 PM

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PadsFS wrote:
DMENS wrote: Against Lohse:
Beltran is hitting .500/.583/.875/1.458in 48 AB's against Lohse. No way you even think about sitting him.
Holliday is hitting .444/.500/.667/1.167 over 18 AB's, so I don't sit him either.
Freese is hitting .556/.556/.667/1.222 over 9 AB's and has a history of crushing the ball in Milwaukee, so I start him too.

Craig and Carpenter are a combined 4 for 17 with just one walk. Craig is hitting .091/.259/.091/.350 over his last 27 PA's, so if you're looking for somebody to sit, that is who I would pick. Carpenter is hitting .348/.429/.565/.994 over his last 28 PA's.

In light of those numbers, I'd give Craig the night off for sure, assuming you want Adams or Wong in the lineup instead.
Agreed. I'd use Adams, Carpenter, Descalso, Freese, Holliday, Jay, and Beltran. Wong getting his first hit is cute and all, but I wouldn't sit either of Freese or Carpenter just so he can start. I also wouldn't play Carpenter at first just to squeeze in Wong when there's a chance to use Adams against a righty.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 1:25 PM

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In light of those averages as well as leaning heavy on Craig and Carpenter all year this may be a good time to sit them both. Put Adams and Wong in there to give Lohse a look at two guys he is not familiar with. Also we have to think about sitting Molina either today or tomorrow IMO. He has played three in a row.

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Posted: 8/20/2013 1:43 PM

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I don't have a problem sitting Craig in place of Adams.

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Posted: 8/20/2013 4:11 PM

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DMENS wrote: Kyle has been outstanding lately, going 3-1 with a 1.66 ERA. I know he has been awful against us so far this year, but dating as far back as the beginning of June he has a 2.40 ERA so his recent success is not just a mirage. Hopefully the Cardinals continue to pound him and Lance Lynn can avoid the big inning that has hurt him so much recently.
The Brewer's O isn't much.  Shaky pitching is what almost did us in last night. 

I thought Mike went with both Miller and Wacha too long last night.  I know the pen can only take so much, but going with pitchers that are having control problems in a contested game is playing russian roulette.  Mike got lucky.  I hope he doesn't push that luck when Lynn runs out of gas.  The root of the problem is too many inefficient innings from guys not named Maness or Siegrist.

It will be too bad if Wong sits tonight, just as he may be getting rid of the jitters.  Not that Freese doesn't deserve to play, but another start for Wong would be a good idea.  I like the idea of starting Carp at first, and resting one of Craig, Beltran or Holliday.  My preference would be Beltran, giving us a switch hitter with pop off the bench.

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I don't. It's good to give him those situations. He's never going to improve if he doesn't get in those situations with runners in scoring position. That inning would have been much different if there was no error to start the inning with Segura leading off.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 4:40 PM

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Carpenter came through in the clutch for us again last night.  I know this guy won't even be in the conversation for league MVP, but scanning the league leaders this morning, he leads the league in hits, doubles, runs scored, multi-hit games, has driven in more than 60 runs out of the lead-off position, is batting about .315, and is more versatile defensively than anybody has a right to be.  Can play every infield position except SS and won't hurt you anyplace.  Just sayin'.

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Posted: 8/20/2013 5:14 PM

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Posted: 8/20/2013 5:30 PM

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DTFlush234 wrote: 

It's good to give him those situations. He's never going to improve if he doesn't get in those situations with runners in scoring position. That inning would have been much different if there was no error to start the inning with Segura leading off.
Can't argue with that.  Good for a young pitcher's development.  But not good for winning the game at hand.  I have often been critisized for my position that it should be all in for each and every game.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:15 PM

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Jay HBP. Wong grounds in to a double play. He does seem confident and thoughtful at the plate though. Holliday flies out to shallow right to end the inning.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:21 PM

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Bottom of the first, Lynn looks sharp and retires the Brewers with ease 1-2-3. Nice scoop by Adams on a low, but not bad, throw from Freese.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:22 PM

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lynn needed only 7 pitches to get thru the first, awesome!!!
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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:30 PM

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yadi doubles and adams brings him in with an rbi single, 1-0 cards!!!

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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:33 PM

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Double by Yadi and single by Adams 1-0
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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:40 PM

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Lynn looking really sharp...maybe today he will avoid the dreaded big inning.
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Posted: 8/20/2013 7:41 PM

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6 up 6 down for lynn on just 20 pitches, 1-0 birds.
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