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MLB ALL-STAR GAME

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Posted: 6/4/2013 2:33 PM

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There is a new feature to voting this year. Now if you fill your ballot out once, you can vote 25 times by simply filling out a new auth code. Its extremely easy.

Just fill out your ballot once. Then when you are finished click vote again. It keeps the ballot and you simpy get to enter a code 25 times. It takes less than 5 min. Lets vote our guys in!

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/...2013/ballot.jsp

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Posted: 6/4/2013 2:55 PM

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The All Star Vote is a joke.   It is nothing but a popularity contest.  Allowing fans to vote for a game that means something is just dumb.  Most fans don't have a clue who the actual best players are.  I have participated in the past, but after last year's fiasco with Giant fans gaming the system, I am through.


Edit:  And if I did vote, the only Cardinals I would vote for are Yadi and Matt Carpenter. Maybe Beltran, but I would have to think about it.

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Posted: 6/4/2013 3:10 PM

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Matt Carpenter deserves (as of now) to be the NL all-star second baseman.  Here's a guy who leads the league in runs scored, is batting about .320, and has committed only one error at the position.

A side note: Carpenter may be the most versatile player in all of baseball.  How many guys can play first, second, third, either corner outfield position and play them all very well?  It's amazing, really.  

But have you ever seen him smile?  Sometimes I wonder what kind of personality he's got; maybe Brian knows--he must have spoken with Carp a time or two; even Superman had a sense of humor, as Jerry Seinfeld pointed out more than once.

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Posted: 6/4/2013 3:29 PM

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crdswmn wrote: The All Star Vote is a joke.   It is nothing but a popularity contest.  Allowing fans to vote for a game that means something is just dumb.  Most fans don't have a clue who the actual best players are.  I have participated in the past, but after last year's fiasco with Giant fans gaming the system, I am through.


Edit:  And if I did vote, the only Cardinals I would vote for are Yadi and Matt Carpenter. Maybe Beltran, but I would have to think about it.
Remember, it is the All-Star game not the All-Stats game. 

I define stars as those players who have earned an enthusiastic following.  Whether a certain player who has done so is tops in the first half of this season is obviously not the overriding consideration for many fans, nor should it be IMO.  For that reason, not knowing who the best players are over the sample size of the current half season has nothing to do with voter-worthiness.

I don't condone cheating, but stuffing the ballot by a meathod available to all is fine.

I wouldn't mind an All-Stats game, by the way. I'd like to see the starters chosen by computer, based solely upon current year production.  The roster to be filled out by weighted vote of uniformed personel, with an individual's vote multiplied by his years of uniformed service.  What Red thinks matters more than what Wacha thinks, in other words.

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Posted: 6/4/2013 3:38 PM

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blingboy wrote:
crdswmn wrote: The All Star Vote is a joke.   It is nothing but a popularity contest.  Allowing fans to vote for a game that means something is just dumb.  Most fans don't have a clue who the actual best players are.  I have participated in the past, but after last year's fiasco with Giant fans gaming the system, I am through.


Edit:  And if I did vote, the only Cardinals I would vote for are Yadi and Matt Carpenter. Maybe Beltran, but I would have to think about it.
Remember, it is the All-Star game not the All-Stats game. 

I define stars as those players who have earned an enthusiastic following.  Whether a certain player who has done so is tops in the first half of this season is obviously not the overriding consideration for many fans, nor should it be IMO.  For that reason, not knowing who the best players are over the sample size of the current half season has nothing to do with voter-worthiness.

I don't condone cheating, but stuffing the ballot by a meathod available to all is fine.

I wouldn't mind an All-Stats game, by the way. I'd like to see the starters chosen by computer, based solely upon current year production.  The roster to be filled out by weighted vote of uniformed personel, with an individual's vote multiplied by his years of uniformed service.  What Red thinks matters more than what Wacha thinks, in other words.
If the game were an actual exhibition game, I wouldn't have a problem with fans voting.  It isn't, and I do.

The Philly Fanatic has an enthusiastic following too.  Do you want him playing?

You have your viewpoint and I have mine.  I refuse to participate in this beauty contest disguised as a baseball game that determines who gets home field advantage in the World Series.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 3:39 PM

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FWIW, I agree with CW.  Internet voting has really screwed things up anyway.  And to think, there are those who want *real* elections (like, say, for President) to also be on the internet.

I don't believe I've filled out an all-star ballot since I grew up.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 3:52 PM

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Jmodene1 wrote: FWIW, I agree with CW.  Internet voting has really screwed things up anyway.  And to think, there are those who want *real* elections (like, say, for President) to also be on the internet.

I don't believe I've filled out an all-star ballot since I grew up.
I wouldn't want elections for office done on the internet, but having said that, the problem with the AS vote is not that it is on the internet, it is that MLB doesn't give a rat's posterior about the integrity of the voting.  All they care about is page views, and lots of them.  The system is set up to encourage ballot stuffing, because that gets more page views.

If that is what MLB wants, so be it, it's their system.  I just refuse to participate in it.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 4:10 PM

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crdswmn wrote: The All Star Vote is a joke.   It is nothing but a popularity contest.  Allowing fans to vote for a game that means something is just dumb.  Most fans don't have a clue who the actual best players are.  I have participated in the past, but after last year's fiasco with Giant fans gaming the system, I am through.


Edit:  And if I did vote, the only Cardinals I would vote for are Yadi and Matt Carpenter. Maybe Beltran, but I would have to think about it.
I agree with all of your points. The problem is that players get evaluated after their careers by all star bids. Yadi will more than likely make the team anyway, but Im not so sure about beltran. He deserves to go and I think hes now about 50/50 for HOF...Id like to see him get in and another bid cant hurt.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 5:29 PM

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Nobody ever agrees with me on anything, jeesh. I think I'll have a cold one and get the grill going before the game.

I'd like to see Yadi, M.Carp, Beltran, Wainy, Lynn and Mujica. Never happen.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 6:57 PM

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Crdswmn is going to love this. I have been casting all-star votes since I could only crawl, yet not once have I ever cast a vote in a cub players direction....matter of fact, if there's a Redbird on the ballot he's got my vote...whether he's hitting a buck fifty or he's been on the DL all year.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 7:59 PM

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pugsleyaddams wrote: Crdswmn is going to love this. I have been casting all-star votes since I could only crawl, yet not once have I ever cast a vote in a cub players direction....matter of fact, if there's a Redbird on the ballot he's got my vote...whether he's hitting a buck fifty or he's been on the DL all year.

I do seem to recall voting for Billy Williams in 1972, the year he finished just 3 HR and 3 RBI shy of winning the Triple Crown.
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Posted: 6/4/2013 8:11 PM

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Jmodene1 wrote:
pugsleyaddams wrote: Crdswmn is going to love this. I have been casting all-star votes since I could only crawl, yet not once have I ever cast a vote in a cub players direction....matter of fact, if there's a Redbird on the ballot he's got my vote...whether he's hitting a buck fifty or he's been on the DL all year.

I do seem to recall voting for Billy Williams in 1972, the year he finished just 3 HR and 3 RBI shy of winning the Triple Crown.
Yeah I know you were right in voting for Billy in that situation, JMo, but I just couldn't stomach putting a check mark next to any cubbie's name. And I'm not worried about having none of our starters leading at their position in voting thus far.
Wait until the pitchers names are announced. Heck, any pitcher not named "Boggs" and donning Cardinal red merits all-star consideration. Lynn could start that game. Waino makes it, Mujica, Miller.....and now with Wacha bursting upon the scene, we could see 5 Redbird hurlers out there if Wacha doesn't get too many points deducted for being sentenced to the farm the first two months of the 2013 campaign.....it wasn't his fault.
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Posted: 6/10/2013 12:49 PM

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Cliff Corcoran of SI has written an interesting article about the All Star vote.  In it he says Beltran doesn't belong (which I have to grudgingly agree with), that Molina should be ahead of Posey, and that Brandon Phillips is the 3rd best second baseman behind Carp and Marco Scutaro.  And in the comments you will see yours truly making her presence known.  biggrin


http://mlb.si.com/2013/06/10/a...ational-league/
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Posted: 6/10/2013 1:48 PM

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Pretty good article.  I'm not so sure I agree with him that Gomez should be starting while Beltran should not be - Beltran is having a heck of a season in his own right - but he makes good points.

One of these years, we're going to see what happened with the vote in 1957 - that was the year the entire NL lineup, with the exception of Stan Musial, was - by virtue of fan voting - comprised of Cincinnati Reds.  And this was long before the internet.  IIRC, the local newspaper printed pre-filled-out ballots in the paper and encouraged readers to cut the ballot out of the paper and submit them as their own vote.

Thankfully, the commissioner (or the NL president, I forget) stepped in and took a couple of those Reds players out of the starting lineup... substituting a couple of fellows named Mays and Aaron.  Once the game started, four of the Reds' players in the starting lineup took one AB each and were then taken out.

The fan vote was taken away the following year, but was brought back in 1970.

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Posted: 6/19/2013 8:17 AM

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http://view.ed4.net/v/LXGDB1/7...11965-568475823

today is the "vote rally" at busch stadium (1pm), if you work in downtown stl get down there for the festivities. If you are on twitter retweet #votestl.

If you still havent voted click the link at the top of this thread. Its very easy and literally takes less than five minutes.

Lets get our guys in.

Last edited 6/19/2013 8:18 AM by grayssportsalmanac

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Posted: 6/19/2013 8:51 AM

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Why?
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Posted: 6/19/2013 9:00 AM

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Why?

Why win the world series?
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Posted: 6/19/2013 9:06 AM

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If internet all-stars is as much about ballot stuffing as it is deserving to be in the game, so be it… Let the Cards nation be heard. And if that is the case, refusing to participate accomplishes only one thing – sends a message that we don’t care as much as other organizations.

San Fran fans hold the edge – they own the Silicon Valley and the NSA so manipulating the ballots is just a warrantless mouse click away. That said, the Birds got my 35 votes.. All of them, even the non-deserving such as Carlos Beltran (sarcasm).


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Posted: 6/19/2013 9:14 AM

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I have no problem with not voting for cardinals, but id love to hear an argument from a cardinal fan as to why beltran and molina dont deserve to be starters...
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Posted: 7/15/2013 8:59 PM

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Five Cardinals originally named: Beltran (batting 2nd) and Molina (batting 6th) starting for the National League, with Wainwright, Craig and Carpenter. Wainwright unavailable to pitch with Mujica added to the team.

Game is Tuesday, July 16 with pregame show starting at 6:30 PM CT on FOX.
Brian Walton
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