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Joe Buck might rejoin some Cards broadcasts in new role
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Posted: 2/22/2013 6:37 AM
Joe Buck might rejoin some Cards broadcasts in new role
What do people think of this idea?
Last edited 2/22/2013 6:48 AM by Domeboys
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:00 AM
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I like the idea of Joe doing some games, but the whole interviewing guys in the middle of the game thing is a little weird. Oddly enough, it was Harry Carey's trying to interview Ken Boyer in the middle of a game (and Boyer's refusal) that led to the famous Carey-Boyer feud in the early 60's.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:39 AM
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Thanks for warning us.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:31 AM
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I want to like Joe Buck. He's indirectly done some things to turn me off but there's a part of me that wishes he was more aligned with the Cardinals again. This seems a little weird though and probably not worth the effort.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:43 AM
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I love the idea! This guy is a Cardinal legacy who cut his teeth here. I know some think Joe to be arrogant and he probably is a little and this rubs Midwesterners wrong i think. I am an East coast guy so IMO i have more of a buffer against what some consider a abrasive personality. I think the guy is top notch and we would be lucky to have him back in the flock even if it is only brief. GREAT move if true.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 8:51 AM
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Oddly enough, it was Harry Carey's trying to interview Ken Boyer in the middle of a game (and Boyer's refusal) that led to the famous Carey-Boyer feud in the early 60's.
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Chatting with players in the on-deck circle? You've got to be kidding! I wouldn't think a little weaselely guy like a Joe Buck would risk injury with getting nailed by a scorching line foul as he was shuffling on out to chat with a batter in the on-deck O. Also those on-deck occupants enjoy their practice hacks. What if Joe got inadvertently bopped in the head with a Louisville Slugger? And I don't think we have to worry about any family feuds between Joe Buck and Mike Matheny. Joe is smart enough guy to know that the Cardinal skipper would mop the floor with him in a fight in a matter of seconds. Carey vs Boyer back in the early 60's would have been a tough call. I'm thinking the feisty Carey might have gotten the better of Ken.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:19 AM
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I am one of the few who likes Joe. I have never understood the hate. He's not his Dad but he does a good job. Is it because he doesn't drool over the Cards on national broadcasts? He's not supposed to do that.
I think I would enjoy it if it was done right.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:22 AM
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crdswmn wrote: I am one of the few who likes Joe. I have never understood the hate. He's not his Dad but he does a good job. Is it because he doesn't drool over the Cards on national broadcasts? He's not supposed to do that.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:34 AM
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crdswmn wrote: I have never understood the hate... Is it because he doesn't drool over the Cards on national broadcasts? I'm pretty sure there was a thread about this a while back. We debated it to death, as we do most things. But if my memory serves me right the main issue was that people felt Joe went out of his way to appear neutral, sometimes passively throwing dirt on the organization to distance himself from accusations of preference. I know Joe loves St. Louis and has to fight hard to keep that preference out of his work. But that's the decision he made when he professionally distanced himself from the club. Fans are no more obligated to like it than he is to obligated to show preference. What has really confounded me though is how the restaurants have been handled, with the name change and plastering Joe's face over every square inch of his place. It just seems arrogant and feeds the negative perception people have. All that being said, I only casually buy into the arguments and would like to see Joe participating with the organization in some shape or form.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:38 AM
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pugsleyaddams wrote:
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Oddly enough, it was Harry Carey's trying to interview Ken Boyer in the middle of a game (and Boyer's refusal) that led to the famous Carey-Boyer feud in the early 60's.
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Chatting with players in the on-deck circle? You've got to be kidding! I wouldn't think a little weaselely guy like a Joe Buck would risk injury with getting nailed by a scorching line foul as he was shuffling on out to chat with a batter in the on-deck O. Also those on-deck occupants enjoy their practice hacks. What if Joe got inadvertently bopped in the head with a Louisville Slugger? And I don't think we have to worry about any family feuds between Joe Buck and Mike Matheny. Joe is smart enough guy to know that the Cardinal skipper would mop the floor with him in a fight in a matter of seconds. Carey vs Boyer back in the early 60's would have been a tough call. I'm thinking the feisty Carey might have gotten the better of Ken. Funny stuff but also more likely than a lot of people would think. Those little fellas with the big glasses can fool ya. When i was about 15 i about had my jaw just about broken by one of these Smerds( part smedley, part nerd). He was the younger brother of a hockey player that i really disliked and he was always yapping. One game i made up my mind the next time this kid went into the corner for the puck i was going to hammer him, and i did. Got my elbow up high and i really thought i had shut him up when up pops this kid ready to fight. Now keep in mind that this kid looked like the young man in that Christmas movie who wanted the B B gun for Christmas. Had the glasses and the body to match too. The thing i had forgotten was he had five brothers and they all boxed. One of them was even Golden Gloves. This kid stood up and dropped his gloves so i did likewise. To this day i am not sure if he hit me with a left- right combo, a right- left combo or if it was even more than one punch but i could not move my jaw or talk for three weeks. My entire body went numb but i never left my feet. Everything was in slow motion for the rest of the day. I most likely had a concussion and would probably go to the ER if it happened today but in those days you just walked it off. I even went to school the entire time and played hockey. Anyhow my point is watch out for those Harry types, they can fool you.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 9:43 AM
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Jmodene1 wrote:
crdswmn wrote: I am one of the few who likes Joe. I have never understood the hate. He's not his Dad but he does a good job. Is it because he doesn't drool over the Cards on national broadcasts? He's not supposed to do that.
Hear, hear. Hear, hear, hear.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:05 AM
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If it means less Ricky Horton I am all for it. I like Ricky but he is better on the pre-game and post game shows.
Bring on Joe!
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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:56 AM
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GScottAR wrote: If it means less Ricky Horton I am all for it. I like Ricky but he is better on the pre-game and post game shows.
Bring on Joe! That was not part of the article. In fact, they made it clear that Joe would not infringe on the main three. It did say that there will be more of Dan this year, meaning the creation of a three-man booth for 10-20 games. Hopefully those would not be the same day Buck is doing his thing, whatever that turns out to be.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:58 AM
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Lol
It would be neat for him to return for a few game and see how well this new idea goes over. Its going to be tough sledding for sure. Certain guys don't want to be bothered during a game and others would see it as fun. Depends on the person.
Joe wouldn't be in charge like the article said. Dan is the main pbp guy.I'm sure if they attempt this it would be home games only.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 10:59 AM
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crdswmn wrote: I am one of the few who likes Joe. I have never understood the hate. He's not his Dad but he does a good job. Is it because he doesn't drool over the Cards on national broadcasts? He's not supposed to do that.
I think I would enjoy it if it was done right. I admit that I was critical of Joe Buck in the past when he seemed to either be bored or be taking his responsibilities too lightly. For example, one season late in his tenure with FSM, he was regularly singing during the Cardinals broadcasts. I am not seeing/hearing that when he does national work so perhaps it was a phase that passed with "Slama-lama-ding-dong."
Last edited 2/22/2013 11:01 AM by Domeboys
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Posted: 2/22/2013 11:03 AM
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Domeboys wrote:
crdswmn wrote: I am one of the few who likes Joe. I have never understood the hate. He's not his Dad but he does a good job. Is it because he doesn't drool over the Cards on national broadcasts? He's not supposed to do that.
I think I would enjoy it if it was done right. I admit that I was critical of Joe Buck in the past when he seemed to either be bored or be taking his responsibilities too lightly. For example, one season, he was regularly singing during the Cardinals broadcasts. I am not seeing/hearing that when he does national work so perhaps it was a phase that passed with "Slama-lama-ding-dong." Well, part of the problem, too, is that FOX considers McCarver the star, just as CBS did when he was paired with Joe's dad in 1990 and 1991. And since McCarver sets the tone for the broadcast, sometimes Joe has no choice but to go along. Just think - the only reason McCarver made it to national level was because of Cosell's third book (the one in which he trashed his MNF colleagues), which led to ABC taking him off the 1985 World Series and bringing McCarver on board. I remembere being disappointed at the time, because I always wanted to hear Cosell calling a Cards game in the World Series. |
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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:10 PM
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I think Rick Horton does a terrific job. I love his enthusiasm and knowledge of the game. He actually played baseball. It just shows what differences of opinion we all have I guess.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 4:25 PM
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I'd love to have Joe Buck involved in some Cardinal broadcasts again, although I am not a local and would not even see them. But I think they need to think a lot about this "in game interview" deal before trying it. It seems unrealistic to think you could get it to work. Now you could do something with some of the coaches and the bullpen guys during a game - maybe the bench position players too. But the guys who are in the lineup should be off limits.
I remember as a kid watching a college football game and an announcer tried to get a comment from Woodie Hayes at the end of the half, and he got all upset and just said something like "We're trying to play a football game here!".
Nowadays of course the networks have an arrangement where they can get some quick comments from the coaches at the start of halftime.
Oh, and on the 47 consecutive years with a Buck in the booth of Cardinal broadcasts comment - is that true? Jack left the Cardinals for a national program around 1975-76 or so. But then maybe he would still do some broadcasts as he had time. I thought he missed a couple of seasons in the mid-to-late '70s.
In fact, it was at that time that Gussie Busch wanted to bring Harry Caray back as the Cardinals announcer since Jack was moving on. But Caray decided to stay put as the White Sox announcer, and then the national show that Buck was doing did not last anyway so Jack was back pretty quick.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 4:34 PM
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The Cards usually say Jack Buck's service was contiguous, but he was let go in 1959 and returned two years later. Buddy Blattner replaced him.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:42 PM
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I didn't realize Joel Meyers was a radio guy for us. He was good with the Lakers.
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