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Worst contracts in baseball
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Posted: 2/13/2013 6:48 AM
Worst contracts in baseball
A new list of the worst contracts in baseball is out. Albert made the list at #15. Ryan Howard, whose deal that set the table for Albert, is #3. A-Rod is #1. No Cardinals appear.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:35 AM
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I still say that the werth contract is the worst in the history of modern baseball. And I dont think its even close. The other players were risk/reward but at least had the potential upside to earn their contract. I dont see any way that anyone could have thought werth could have. He went from a stacked philly lineup to an anemic washington one and has really done nothing.
Edit: Id put zito at number 2 and arod at 3 simply bc arod nyy had more money to absorb the contract.
Last edited 2/13/2013 2:41 PM by grayssportsalmanac
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Posted: 2/13/2013 11:25 AM
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The Dodgers could be a trainwreck this season if Grienke or Kershaw go down. Lot's of bad contracts.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 5:23 PM
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This list is laughable to me because Josh Hamilton is not on it. Any player that needs a fulltime babysitter is a huge risk. His numbers are just not worth the problems he brings with him. The Rangers were good sports to celebrate with Ginger Ale, but even they said he was good, but not good enough for all the baggage that he brings.
I know that I am a bad person for pointing out the obvious problems and not saying what a wonderful guy he is, but I just can't stand to look at the guy.
No negative waves man!
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Posted: 2/13/2013 5:50 PM
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Seems to me there is a difference between the worst contracts and riskiest. The latter could still come out all right. Probably the riskiest list would track pretty closely to the longest.
Last edited 2/13/2013 5:52 PM by Domeboys
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Posted: 2/13/2013 7:35 PM
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To me it is Arod without a doubt no one else is even close. The second worse is Vernon Wells IMO b/c the guy is not even mediocre but gets paid like a star. Just brutal.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 8:15 AM
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In a different "worst" list, Fangraphs ranked the 10 worst moves made across MLB this off-season. The Cardinals are not represented, though the author took a Kyle Lohse shot in his opening.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 11:47 AM
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Domeboys wrote: In a different "worst" list, Fangraphs ranked the 10 worst moves made across MLB this off-season. The Cardinals are not represented, though the author took a Kyle Lohse shot in his opening. That is funny. He takes a shot at Lohse and then mentions the likes of Guthrie, Coreia and Santana in his worst moves. Those guys are flat out scrubs who will be lucky to last the season in the Majors. Pretty insulting to a guy that was 16-3. Geesh! I think at this point Lohse is more valuable to the Cardinals than he is any other team.
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Posted: 3/29/2013 11:37 PM
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Ummm i dont know if detroits tv contract is changing....
But this verlander contract is insanely stupid....amazingly stupid....handcuff your team stupid.
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Posted: 3/30/2013 11:03 AM
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grayssportsalmanac wrote: Ummm i dont know if detroits tv contract is changing....
But this verlander contract is insanely stupid....amazingly stupid....handcuff your team stupid. The Tigers were already paying him $20 million this season and another $20 million for next season. The extension kicks in starting in 2015 and is $28 million per year through 2019. That takes him through his 37th birthday. 2020 is a vesting option year that vests if in 2019 he finishes in the top five in the Cy Young award voting. So the extension has no financial impact on payroll the next two years. The Tigers get no payroll relief until after the 2015 season when Cabrera's contract expires; it only bumps a million next season and remains unchanged in 2015. Fielder's contract also bumps a million next season and remains unchanged after that. Sanchez's contract bumps $7 million to $15.8 million next season. It increases a million the following year and decreases to $5 million in the final year of the contract to $5 million. Next season the Tigers are committed to $107.8 million for six players. 2015 -- $90.8 million (4 players) 2016-2017 -- $68.8 million (3 players) 2018 -- $57 million (3 players)
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Posted: 3/30/2013 1:18 PM
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The danger in giving out long-term contracts can be seen by using a few historical examples.
Verlander, for instance, got his big bucks because he's Detroit's ace, and arguably the best pitcher in the AL (Felix Hernandez or David Price fans may argue, but he's up there).
In 1968, Detroit's ace - and the best pitcher in the AL - was Denny McLain, who had just won 31 games. Imagine that he, like Verlander, got a seven-year deal. The first year would have worked out, as McLain repeated as the AL Cy Young winner (tied with Mike Cuellar) in 1969. After that, disaster - and as I doubt Bob Short would have traded for McLain with that huge contract prior to 1971, Detroit would have been stuck with him.
Then again, sometimes it works - had Philadelphia signed Steve Carlton to a seven-year deal after the 1972 season, it would have looked bad at first, as Lefty lost 20 games in 1973, but would have worked out thereafter and by the time the deal was over, after 1979, he would have won another couple of CYA's.
Other times, it works for a while - had the Cards signed Bob Gibson to a seven-year deal after 1968, we would have gotten seven years out of him - he retired after that seventh season - but he would have only been ace-like for the first 4 1/2 years of that deal, as he got hurt midway through the 1973 season, was a diminished pitcher in 1974, and bottomed out in 1975.
Bottom line, is we never know - and we just have to hope that Wainwright follows Carlton more than he does McLain.
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Posted: 3/31/2013 11:53 PM
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I was looking at a thing on Cots about the highest AAV ever in baseball. Surprisingly, the highest AAV a year was in 2007 by Roger Clemens. He had just played for Houston for 3 years and went back to the Yankee's in 2007 for 28 million dollars. He also only pitched 99 innings that year going 6-6 with a 4 ERA. That's literally 1 million dollars for every 4 innings of work for a 44 year old pitcher. That is absolute baseball insanity!!
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Posted: 4/1/2013 5:00 AM
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I believe Clemens contract was pro-rated that year, so he only received about half of the AAV.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 9:57 AM
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never ever give a pitcher more than a three year contract (Wainwright included)..
as an example Lohse, only actually pitched ~~ 1 1/2 years of his recent Cardinal 3 year contract....yes 17-3 was wonderful but if you think real value it's risky (very risky) to grant more than 3 years to a pitcher (unless it's a 2 year "club option" = 5)....
but with the Cards not signing Albert, and Cards signing Molina and now Wainwright....Alberts Cardinal money basically went to three players....(including Holiday)...3 for 1....
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Posted: 4/1/2013 10:09 AM
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Oqie11 wrote: I believe Clemens contract was pro-rated that year, so he only received about half of the AAV. Makes sense but still 14 million for 99 innings is insane for a 44 year old.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 10:13 AM
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Baseball salaries are completely out of control and have been for quite a long time. We're lucky to have gotten Yadi, Waino and Craig signed for as "little" as we did.
It's rather like the price of gasoline - when the price here in LV went from $3.82 to $3.69, my wife said it was getting cheaper. I said no, it's only getting less expensive.
Point being, of course, that there's nothing we can do about the high price of gasoline *or* ballplayers.
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