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Re: Baseball America Cardinals Top 10 Prospects

Posted: 1/20/2013 10:58 PM

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CariocaCardinal wrote:
DTFlush234 wrote: Think it was early for Bean to be rated the best defensive catcher in the system given how raw he is defensively but you have to like the potential plus glove behind the plate. I would of thought Ehlrich or Perez would be given the best defensive catcher credential.
Ehlrich has this strong defensive reputation but (according to another site) supposedly Vuch said at the WWU that they like Ehlrich's bat but he has a long way to go defensively
Interesting. I've read Ehrlich has the potential to be a high-end defender and currently is fundamentally sound catcher which is hard to find and just needs to round out his hitting to make it to the majors.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:37 AM

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Anybody know the top 30 yet? Can't find it online?
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Posted: 1/23/2013 11:02 AM

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The Prospect Handbook is supposed to be released later this month. I don't believe they plan to disclose their team top 30's until then.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 9:33 AM

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Thank you
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Posted: 1/25/2013 4:18 PM

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Post Dispatch released a story saying BA was going to pick the Cardinals the #1 system. Said all four scribes have them as the top minor league system.

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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:02 PM

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SoonerinNC wrote:

Post Dispatch released a story saying BA was going to pick the Cardinals the #1 system. Said all four scribes have them as the top minor league system.

That is awesome!!!  We"re # 1.  But I think we kinda... already... knew that.  Still... nice that they agree with us.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:26 AM

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Cardinals #1 system

1. Taveras
2. Miller
3. Martinez
4. Rosenthal
5. Wong
6. Wacha
7. Adams
8. Jenkins
9. Kelly
10. Piscotty
11. Wisdom
12. Ramsey
13. Kozma
14. Siegrist
15. Jackson
16. DeLeon
17. McElroy
18. Swagerty
19. Tilson
20. Bean
21. Fornatero
22. Freeman
23. Maness
24. Rondon
25. Cooney
26. Gast
27. Cleto
28. O'Neill
29. Butler
30. Blair
31. Walsh

From TCN top 31
No Garcias, Greg, Silfredo or Anthony
No Starlin Rodriguez or Valera
No Sanchez

Not in the TCN top 31
DeLeon
Rondon
Cooney
O'Neill
Walsh
Butler

Last edited 1/29/2013 10:28 AM by SoonerinNC

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Posted: 1/29/2013 10:42 AM

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Interesting, Sooner. Thanks for sharing. Of the six that aren't in our top 30, all but Rondon are in our 31-40 group (and the one who isn't, Rondon is #35 on my personal list).

The big difference is in the names they left off entirely. We called Anthony Garcia a top 10 player. Greg Garcia is at 16 and scored a big league camp invite as did Starlin at 17. Valera also squeaked into our top 20.

Good to see different perspectives.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 4:24 PM

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Also surprised there is no Lyons.   Some rankings have him top 20 and he got a ST invite as well as the brass seems to be talking him up this Winter.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 6:33 PM

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Domeboys wrote: The big difference is in the names they left off entirely. We called Anthony Garcia a top 10 player. Greg Garcia is at 16 and scored a big league camp invite as did Starlin at 17.
Its impressive that 31 prospects can be named without including these guys. 

They are kind of under the national baseball guy radar, I guess. Being an 18th rounder or coming from U of Hawaii could do that I think.  

Hopefully, they will be more eye popping this year.
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Posted: 1/29/2013 9:28 PM

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MLB Network just finished their top 50 prospects show with Hart and Mayo making the picks, and 51-100 are online.

Cards got six in the top 100 (tied for most among MLB teams with Twins, Rangers, Red Sox and Marlins) but Seattle rated just a bit higher, points-wise, with their 5 guys all rating fairly highly.

Our six are:

Wacha #83
Wong #79
Rosenthal #43
Martinez #33
Miller #25
Tavares #3

Profar was #1.
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Posted: 1/30/2013 7:21 AM

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I think I have seen a couple rankings were Miller is down significantly from what we were seeing this time last year. I don't get that.

It also seems like Rosenthal is getting shortchanged. If Martinez really is a better prospect, I can't wait to see him.
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Posted: 2/19/2013 11:28 AM

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Cardinals in Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects: Taveras 3, Miller 6, Martinez 38, Rosenthal 39, Wacha 76, Wong 84
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Posted: 3/9/2013 6:17 AM

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Interesting tweet from Derrick Goold:

"I can admit when I make a mistake, as I did earlier this spring to the player personally: Greg Garcia deserved a spot in Top 30."
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:26 PM

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Interesting tidbit, Brian.  Thanks.

I'd love more eyeball reports on Garcia's D at SS if people have it.  Looks like it might just matter quite a bit.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:27 PM

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He played great D at SS and 2nd last year during games on the backfield.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:59 PM

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My thoughts from watching Garcia defensively in Springfield. He's a fundamentally sound SS with an average-to-above-average arm but lacks consistent range defensively which limits making him an average defender at best. Very steady will make all the routine plays and occasional highlight gems. Maybe with more Oquendo tutelage can help him improve defensively while his bat being more than offset. Hope one day he will get the opportunity to become that everyday shortstop the Cardinals need.

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