blingboy wrote: I think the ballots should be private. The only reason to want them public is so we can indentify who we want to critisize or chastise. Nobody should have to worry about taking any flack for an unpopular or politically incorrect choice.

Aside. Both Olbermann and Limbaugh are baseball fans. We can all agree on something at least.

Oddly enough, although Rush is from Cape Girardeau and grew up listening to Harry Carey and KMOX, his favorite team was the Dodgers and his favorite player was Maury Wills.

blingboy wrote: I think the ballots should be private. The only reason to want them public is so we can indentify who we want to critisize or chastise. Nobody should have to worry about taking any flack for an unpopular or politically incorrect choice.

Aside. Both Olbermann and Limbaugh are baseball fans. We can all agree on something at least.

Im not a huge rush fan, simply because I dont think his goal is to solve problems and inform others. That being said, I absolutely despise Keith Oblermann. Its been said (even on here I believe) that when espn had their 30th anny party every single former employee was invited besides him.

I saw him on mlbtv say (paraphase) that schillings numbers could produce a strong argument, but if I had a vote I obviously wouldnt be voting for him for personal reasons(snicker).

I have searched for things schilling did which could be deemed "dishonorable" and havent found anything. Was there an incident that I am unaware of? With a majority of baseball writers leaning to the left it would be a shame if they let personal politics get in the way, but not surprising in the slightest...

Reds beat writer decides not to return his ballot.

Domeboys wrote: Reds beat writer decides not to return his ballot.

As a casual baseball card collector I do have to admit I started making a play for bonds rookies a few years back and they have appreciated about 50-70% since. Im assuming other writers will begin to share the sentiments of this guy in the future, just a guess...

Domeboys wrote: Reds beat writer decides not to return his ballot.

ridiculous....

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--- grayssportsalmanac wrote
As a casual baseball card collector I do have to admit I started making a play for bonds rookies a few years back and they have appreciated about 50-70% since.

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Brings back memories. About 20 years ago Houston brought up this rookie outfielder by the name of Eric Anthony. After seeing him play just a few games I thought the guy had "FUTURE HALL OF FAMER" written all over him. I literally would have bet my life that this gem was at the very least going to be perennial star....no less than say an Andre Dawson. I spent months getting my mitts on as many Eric Anthony rookie cards as possible....most between $2-$3 a pop. I ended up with over 600 of the rascals. For a while there I thought I was going to be in fat city as visions of Nolan Ryan rookie cards at around $1800 apiece danced jubilantly around my head every time I lovingly gazed at my huge stash of Eric Anthony rookie cards. Needless to say, Grays was much more shrewd in his Bonds card acquisitions than I was with my Anthony....but a major question looms....if Anthony had received the artificial aid that Barry had, just how much would my Eric Anthony cards be worth today? A king's ransom possibly?

pugsleyaddams wrote:

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--- grayssportsalmanac wrote
As a casual baseball card collector I do have to admit I started making a play for bonds rookies a few years back and they have appreciated about 50-70% since.

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Brings back memories. About 20 years ago Houston brought up this rookie outfielder by the name of Eric Anthony. After seeing him play just a few games I thought the guy had "FUTURE HALL OF FAMER" written all over him. I literally would have bet my life that this gem was at the very least going to be perennial star....no less than say an Andre Dawson. I spent months getting my mitts on as many Eric Anthony rookie cards as possible....most between $2-$3 a pop. I ended up with over 600 of the rascals. For a while there I thought I was going to be in fat city as visions of Nolan Ryan rookie cards at around $1800 apiece danced jubilantly around my head every time I lovingly gazed at my huge stash of Eric Anthony rookie cards. Needless to say, Grays was much more shrewd in his Bonds card acquisitions than I was with my Anthony....but a major question looms....if Anthony had received the artificial aid that Barry had, just how much would my Eric Anthony cards be worth today? A king's ransom possibly?

Probably not, baseball cards around this time are not worth anything, they over produced and the good rookies of this time are still only worth a couple bucks.

Zeile27 wrote:

pugsleyaddams wrote:

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--- grayssportsalmanac wrote
As a casual baseball card collector I do have to admit I started making a play for bonds rookies a few years back and they have appreciated about 50-70% since.

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Brings back memories. About 20 years ago Houston brought up this rookie outfielder by the name of Eric Anthony. After seeing him play just a few games I thought the guy had "FUTURE HALL OF FAMER" written all over him. I literally would have bet my life that this gem was at the very least going to be perennial star....no less than say an Andre Dawson. I spent months getting my mitts on as many Eric Anthony rookie cards as possible....most between $2-$3 a pop. I ended up with over 600 of the rascals. For a while there I thought I was going to be in fat city as visions of Nolan Ryan rookie cards at around $1800 apiece danced jubilantly around my head every time I lovingly gazed at my huge stash of Eric Anthony rookie cards. Needless to say, Grays was much more shrewd in his Bonds card acquisitions than I was with my Anthony....but a major question looms....if Anthony had received the artificial aid that Barry had, just how much would my Eric Anthony cards be worth today? A king's ransom possibly?

Probably not, baseball cards around this time are not worth anything, they over produced and the good rookies of this time are still only worth a couple bucks.

there is still a huge market for baseball cards, they problem is they are valued at the high end of potential value for the player. You could never buy a bryce harper card cheap. And there are dozens of rookies and special inserts etc. The price appreciation for cards is for hall of fame players who were drafted lower (pujols etc)

I am not a card expert by any means, but a quick search on ebay shows dozens of Harper cards starting at 50 cents.

I'm a pretty big card collector, having attended several Nationals and regularly buying and selling on ebay, and making the rounds of the local shops.

However, I stick to the vintage cards, which in collecting means pre-1970, although up to about 1975 can be considered "vintage" depending on who you talk to.

The problem with the modern stuff in my opinion, is like most everything else the big money got ahold of it and so now it's not as much of a hobby as it is a business. The card companies artificially inflate the value of some cards by having only a few special insert cards that are autographed and might have a piece of game used jersey or bat in them.

It's kind of a lame deal in my opinion, but some collectors really go for that stuff. Give me a decent 1950s Mantle any day over any insert card.

As for Missouri's own Rush Limbaugh, I used to really like him in the early '90s. I thought he had a lot of good things to say. But he's gotten so he never sees reality, but simply is on a crusade to discredit anything that does not fit his ideology.  He's one of those many media blowhards that thinks critical thought is not a worthy trait, and instead everyone should think the same way, which is the way he thinks.

Domeboys wrote: I am not a card expert by any means, but a quick search on ebay shows dozens of Harper cards starting at 50 cents.

true, i should have said non traded rookies

pugsleyaddams wrote:

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--- grayssportsalmanac wrote
As a casual baseball card collector I do have to admit I started making a play for bonds rookies a few years back and they have appreciated about 50-70% since.

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Brings back memories. About 20 years ago Houston brought up this rookie outfielder by the name of Eric Anthony. After seeing him play just a few games I thought the guy had "FUTURE HALL OF FAMER" written all over him. I literally would have bet my life that this gem was at the very least going to be perennial star....no less than say an Andre Dawson. I spent months getting my mitts on as many Eric Anthony rookie cards as possible....most between $2-$3 a pop. I ended up with over 600 of the rascals. For a while there I thought I was going to be in fat city as visions of Nolan Ryan rookie cards at around $1800 apiece danced jubilantly around my head every time I lovingly gazed at my huge stash of Eric Anthony rookie cards. Needless to say, Grays was much more shrewd in his Bonds card acquisitions than I was with my Anthony....but a major question looms....if Anthony had received the artificial aid that Barry had, just how much would my Eric Anthony cards be worth today? A king's ransom possibly?

About five cents apiece.

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About five cents apiece.

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The official count of my Eric Anthony Topps rookie card collection stands at 613. A rough guesstimate puts my initial investment at around $1400. If you figure in the interest I would have accrued if I had merely plopped this cash into a basic savings account, I'd have about.....??...where's Easton when you need him? Any math whizzes out there? I'd say that I probably have about 7 large(that's $7000 to RatsBuddy) wrapped up in these cards. Before putting them on E-Bay, I think I'll give my pals here at The Cardinal Nation first crack at them. Shall we start the bidding at $2 each? Let me remind you all that we have a strict limit of 613 cards per customer.


Hey has anyone seen RatsBuddy? I'm beginning to think he may have gone the way of Austin, Easton and Diz.

I could use about 20 of them. I build houses for the gazzillion or so birds we have here. The carboad makes a great bottom to these houses and for some reason the crittters prefer Astros and Cubs. Sorry Miss Katie.

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I could use about 20 of them. I build houses for the gazzillion or so birds we have here. The carboad makes a great bottom to these houses and for some reason the crittters prefer Astros and Cubs. Sorry Miss Katie.

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Sweet start! 20 it is CardinalNation...and for only the bargain basement price of $40. Only 593 left. Better hurry gang....they're selling like hotcakes!

No players received the 75 percent vote required for induction. Here are the votes from those who agreed to make their ballots public.

I guess those voters are really serious about not letting the PEDers gain entrance into Cooperstown.

Bagwell>piazza...

I dont care if he crouched behind the plate and dribbled balls to 2b. Of course bagwell (imo) will never get in because he looked like a WWE wrestler...

I hope so but let's see what happens in the years ahead.

I thought I was in the minority on this issue so I am pleasantly surprised that 2/3 of the writers seem to agree. 

Next year there will be Maddux, Glavine, Thomas, Mussina, and Kent as first time eligibles.  I assume the first three make it and, hopefully, Biggio will get enough to make it.  Since its his last year, I figure Morris will either make it or get real close.

Have the writers ever elected five in the same year outside of the first ballot back in 1936?