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I could get on board with this. His obp was way down this year and I think some teams think he's a headache. I think with the veteran latin players on the team he could get back to his career #'s.

But i'm sure people would rip this apart even though the number suggest he's pretty solid and might come cheap with prospects and cash considerations.

At this point I'd rather not go into the season with Furcal and "insert player here".

Absolutely not.

No thank you.

FWIW, the source of the rumor is Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times.

Domeboys wrote: FWIW, the source of the rumor is Marc Topkin on the Tampa Bay Times.

Tonight BJ Rains tweeted that Mozeliak told the media that not everything that has been tweeted is 100% accurate and also that he isn't as active in the middle infield market as people seem to think he is.  Trying to put the kibosh on Scutaro and/or Escobar rumors perhaps?  Though I think just coming out and saying the Cardinals aren't in on _________ would be clearer and more direct.

I sincerely hope the Escobar rumors are false.

Furcal completely recovered and they all lived happily ever after... ;-)

I don't think the team is interested in Y. Escobar... or Scutaro.  I think they are just throwing out decoys to throw everyone off of their Plan A.

The $64 question is... What is Plan A?  Well... no one (outside the organization) knows that.  But look at their situation.  They have options within the organization, but they all have questions.  How many games will Furcal be able to play?  Can Kozma step in and play every day if Raffy can't?  

Ideally, IMO, they should bring in a young prospect that can be sent to Memphis if all is well in StL. Someone who might also be passable as a backup in StL if needed.  And someone who has the potential to take over full time in 2014.

I don't know enough about the cuban prospect Diaz, but what I do know sounds promising.  He will be 23 before spring training... an age at which good prospects are usually on the cusp of becoming a major leaguer.

Of course, there is also risk with him, but having the extra young prospect gives the team more depth... one more option, which in turn, reduces the team's overall risk.  But better yet, he could be a very good ss down the road. 

I don't know what kind of contract he will get, but I don't believe it will be beyond our resources to pull off.  Plus, we don't have to give up any prospects for him.  In conclusion, I think Diaz should be Plan A.

The Rays traded for Escobar.

Good for them.  I didn't want any part of that guy.

Too bad, Escobar was my favourite Blue Jay and a really good SS.

Sometimes, one deal creates other opportunities.

crdswmn wrote: The Rays traded for Escobar.

Good for them.  I didn't want any part of that guy.

I will second that. This guy has a reputation for being not well liked by players or coaches. mediocre player anyway. Could have been the second coming of Felipe Lopez. Moz said today that "we are not spending as much time as people think in this market" and that they are focusing on other areas. I don't know what to make of that.

That's about what I expected.

He's going to try for the cheapest Alternative in our area's of need.

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Domeboys wrote: FWIW, the source of the rumor is Marc Topkin on the Tampa Bay Times.

Tonight BJ Rains tweeted that Mozeliak told the media that not everything that has been tweeted is 100% accurate and also that he isn't as active in the middle infield market as people seem to think he is.  Trying to put the kibosh on Scutaro and/or Escobar rumors perhaps?  Though I think just coming out and saying the Cardinals aren't in on _________ would be clearer and more direct.

I sincerely hope the Escobar rumors are false.

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619illinibooyah wrote: That's about what I expected.

He's going to try for the cheapest Alternative in our area's of need.

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--- crdswmn wrote:

Domeboys wrote: FWIW, the source of the rumor is Marc Topkin on the Tampa Bay Times.

Tonight BJ Rains tweeted that Mozeliak told the media that not everything that has been tweeted is 100% accurate and also that he isn't as active in the middle infield market as people seem to think he is.  Trying to put the kibosh on Scutaro and/or Escobar rumors perhaps?  Though I think just coming out and saying the Cardinals aren't in on _________ would be clearer and more direct.

I sincerely hope the Escobar rumors are false.

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Probably just posturing. I don't believe a word these guys say about potential trades at these meetings. If they really are trying to get an infielder it doesn't pay to announce it. I bet the GM's hate Twitter and the press trying to scoop each other.

Domeboys wrote: Sometimes, one deal creates other opportunities.

Yes, didn't Mo say something about getting some depth in AA at the SS position?

That indicates to me that we would be more into guys like Hak-Ju Lee and Luis Sardinas of the Rangers.


http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs...never-heard-of/

crdswmn wrote:
Tonight BJ Rains tweeted that Mozeliak told the media that not everything that has been tweeted is 100% accurate and also that he isn't as active in the middle infield market as people seem to think he is.

Late last night Goold said on Twitter: #Cardinals have been "kicking the tires" on middle infielders, per Mozeliak. Apparently, they've set off a few alarms in the process.

Not sure what that means, if it is even true. But I believe he did post that after Mo's comment about Twitter not being such an accurate representation of reality.

Just because they don't announce it doesn't mean other teams don't know about it and aren't willing to spill the beans.

I get what you're saying though. I do think some of it is strategy in some sort of fashion. Question is if it's to free up the market for an another guy or to appease a rabid fanbase.

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619illinibooyah wrote: That's about what I expected.

He's going to try for the cheapest Alternative in our area's of need.

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--- crdswmn wrote:

Domeboys wrote: FWIW, the source of the rumor is Marc Topkin on the Tampa Bay Times.

Tonight BJ Rains tweeted that Mozeliak told the media that not everything that has been tweeted is 100% accurate and also that he isn't as active in the middle infield market as people seem to think he is.  Trying to put the kibosh on Scutaro and/or Escobar rumors perhaps?  Though I think just coming out and saying the Cardinals aren't in on _________ would be clearer and more direct.

I sincerely hope the Escobar rumors are false.

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Probably just posturing. I don't believe a word these guys say about potential trades at these meetings. If they really are trying to get an infielder it doesn't pay to announce it. I bet the GM's hate Twitter and the press trying to scoop each other.

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PadsFS wrote:

Domeboys wrote: Sometimes, one deal creates other opportunities.

Yes, didn't Mo say something about getting some depth in AA at the SS position?

That indicates to me that we would be more into guys like Hak-Ju Lee and Luis Sardinas of the Rangers.


http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs...never-heard-of/

I have heard of Sardinas but then again i have lived in Texas. Great call Pads. The Rangers have crazy depth at the position which is why i have highlighted them in my trade proposals. They seem to be a match b/c they are wanting pitching which we are deep in at the organizational level. Any thoughts on his worth? Is he worth lets say Blair? I am looking for video as his name has come up before on this site.

I wouldn't think they would trade for a AA ss.  They need someone they can bring
up to StL if Raffy (or any other middle infielder) gets injured.

Since they went cheap on their Loogy (I wanted Burnett), I'm hoping they put the savings into signing the cuban ss, Diaz.  I think he may be very close to major league ready.

Gotta make room on the 40-man roster before adding a major league contract. 

PadsFS wrote:

Domeboys wrote: Sometimes, one deal creates other opportunities.

Yes, didn't Mo say something about getting some depth in AA at the SS position?

That indicates to me that we would be more into guys like Hak-Ju Lee and Luis Sardinas of the Rangers.


http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs...never-heard-of/

nbr1hawkeye wrote: I wouldn't think they would trade for a AA ss.  They need someone they can bring
up to StL if Raffy (or any other middle infielder) gets injured.

Since they went cheap on their Loogy (I wanted Burnett), I'm hoping they put the savings into signing the cuban ss, Diaz.  I think he may be very close to major league ready.

Gotta make room on the 40-man roster before adding a major league contract. 

PadsFS wrote:

Domeboys wrote: Sometimes, one deal creates other opportunities.

Yes, didn't Mo say something about getting some depth in AA at the SS position?

That indicates to me that we would be more into guys like Hak-Ju Lee and Luis Sardinas of the Rangers.


http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs...never-heard-of/

Good point. Probably Browning or Marte removed from roster. There is always Skip to the Dodgers for a prospect.

cardinalnationhouston wrote:

I have heard of Sardinas but then again i have lived in Texas. Great call Pads. The Rangers have crazy depth at the position which is why i have highlighted them in my trade proposals. They seem to be a match b/c they are wanting pitching which we are deep in at the organizational level. Any thoughts on his worth? Is he worth lets say Blair? I am looking for video as his name has come up before on this site.

He's a top 100 prospect so more likely, we'd give up Adams/Jenkins/Kelly or someone of that ilk.