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Ankiel back to pitching...

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Posted: 11/1/2012 4:33 PM

Ankiel back to pitching... 


Joe Strauss says Ankiel is willing to give pitching another shot. Said Cardinals could give him another go. Interesting.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 4:50 PM

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I wonder how much it would cost to take a look in the Spring. I wonder what the long layoff would have done to his arm, mechanics, etc.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:24 PM

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With Tony, Albert, Colby and Brendan gone, we could use some sort of drama.

How'd you like to be the first hitter to stand in.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 6:59 PM

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wvredbird wrote: Joe Strauss says Ankiel is willing to give pitching another shot. Said Cardinals could give him another go. Interesting.
I hope they do give him another shot.  She showed up at Cardinals Early Spring Training in 2011 I believe to hang with the guys.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 8:18 PM

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Cards would make sense for Rick since they need lefty help in pen. Rick was on good terms with everybody as far as I know with possible exception of C. Rasmus and his old man.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 10:13 PM

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I wonder if he could pitch and play Center Field at the same time. We could save some money that way as long as he didn't demand two paychecks.
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Posted: 11/1/2012 11:13 PM

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mudville wrote: I wonder if he could pitch and play Center Field at the same time. We could save some money that way as long as he didn't demand two paychecks.
If you have enough center fielders, you could bring him in to face one batter, then put him in center field until another lefty comes up.  To keep doing it you would need to have extra center fielders on the bench... which the Cards do I guess (Jay, Chambers, and Skip), but he could go to any outfield position... which would bring other outfielders into the strategy (Shane, others?).  You could have him face 4 lefties.. NOT batting sequentially over 2 or more innings.  Maybe more than 4 if they hit back-to-back.

Regardless, I am anxious to see what he still has.  He isn't terribly old.  If he can maintain his control and his pitches still have movement, he could be a super LOOGY... or even a starter.  I have my fingers crossed.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 1:48 AM

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blingboy wrote: How'd you like to be the first hitter to stand in.
Never could hit lefties or I would, Bling. Come to think of it, I couldn't hit righties either. But knuckleballers.......I think I could feast on those guys. You know Rick is getting a little long in the tooth, but I have a hunch that he could be successful on the hill at this age. I think there's little chance that he'd revert back to the yipps and start peppering the net protecting the good paying patrons in Row 1 like he did 10 years ago. Call it maturity.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 9:11 AM

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I took an in-depth look at the matter here.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 10:07 AM

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Brian, do you know if Ankiel is in fact throwing side sessions and has been for few years?

Also I'm pretty sure Ankiel was under arbitration while plating as an outfielder for the Cardinals
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Posted: 11/2/2012 10:41 AM

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I don't want any part of Rick Ankiel.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 10:44 AM

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PadsFS wrote:

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Brian, do you know if Ankiel is in fact throwing side sessions and has been for few years?

Also I'm pretty sure Ankiel was under arbitration while plating as an outfielder for the Cardinals
No, I don't know if he has been throwing from a mound since being released. As an active major leaguer, I doubt it. That would have drawn considerable attention.

Yes, Ankiel did accrue enough service time to be arbitration-eligible. Earlier, he also used up his options with all the moves back to the minors and could have been a free agent at least once.
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Posted: 11/2/2012 12:59 PM

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If its a spring training type deal then why not?
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Posted: 11/2/2012 1:38 PM

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Recall that i said he should pitch or go home years ago.  a LOOGY role would be perfect for him.  He had hall of fame stuff.

 

And, if you will recall, when he last pitched in late 2004, he really wasnt all that bad/wild.

 

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Posted: 11/2/2012 1:42 PM

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nbr1hawkeye wrote:
mudville wrote: I wonder if he could pitch and play Center Field at the same time. We could save some money that way as long as he didn't demand two paychecks.
If you have enough center fielders, you could bring him in to face one batter, then put him in center field until another lefty comes up.  To keep doing it you would need to have extra center fielders on the bench... which the Cards do I guess (Jay, Chambers, and Skip), but he could go to any outfield position... which would bring other outfielders into the strategy (Shane, others?).  You could have him face 4 lefties.. NOT batting sequentially over 2 or more innings.  Maybe more than 4 if they hit back-to-back.

Regardless, I am anxious to see what he still has.  He isn't terribly old.  If he can maintain his control and his pitches still have movement, he could be a super LOOGY... or even a starter.  I have my fingers crossed.
Think Robert Stock (Sam Tuivailala can play infield) could play 3rd?  Alternating Stock and Ankiel for a few IPs would be a throwback to Bill Veeck's days.  Maybe something BDII would appreciate...
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Posted: 11/4/2012 5:25 AM

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Hey, you don't have to go back that far. Whitey used to do that with Worrell and Dayley Todd would throw to right handed hitters and Daley would play right field. They would switch positions when a lefty came to the plate. Once in awhile things would get exciting when someone would hit a ball out to right field.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 11:22 AM

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1964Cards wrote: Hey, you don't have to go back that far. Whitey used to do that with Worrell and Dayley Todd would throw to right handed hitters and Daley would play right field. They would switch positions when a lefty came to the plate. Once in awhile things would get exciting when someone would hit a ball out to right field.
I was thinking he did that in the WS vs KC.  But I thought it was Worrell who went to the outfield, hence remaining in the game.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 1:30 PM

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I saw Ankiel pitch with Johnson City when he went back to the minors to recoup after the meltdown.

His breaking stuff just paralized the hitters at that level but he couldn't throw a strike to save his life and ultimately his pitching career.

He was under considerable stress about his father at that time. Possibly he is past that and more mature now and if he can gain back his command he has the arm to be effective. And now it is a fresh arm.

I would really like to see the Cardinals sign him to a minor league contract and give him a look in spring training. If he is not ready send him to Memphis without that guarantee that he would be in the majors by June 1 or be released. In the second half he could provide some quality innings as a lefty specialist.
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Posted: 11/4/2012 2:35 PM

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mudville wrote: I wonder if he could pitch and play Center Field at the same time. We could save some money that way as long as he didn't demand two paychecks.
Nah, that was Satchell Paige. biggrin

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Posted: 11/4/2012 2:44 PM

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SoonerinNC wrote: I saw Ankiel pitch with Johnson City when he went back to the minors to recoup after the meltdown.

His breaking stuff just paralized the hitters at that level but he couldn't throw a strike to save his life and ultimately his pitching career.

He was under considerable stress about his father at that time. Possibly he is past that and more mature now and if he can gain back his command he has the arm to be effective. And now it is a fresh arm.

I would really like to see the Cardinals sign him to a minor league contract and give him a look in spring training. If he is not ready send him to Memphis without that guarantee that he would be in the majors by June 1 or be released. In the second half he could provide some quality innings as a lefty specialist.
This is such a great idea.
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