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San Diego Padres @ Los Angeles Dodgers (August 19 - 21)

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Posted: 08/17/2014 11:18 PM

San Diego Padres @ Los Angeles Dodgers (August 19 - 21) 



 

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58-65
 
 70-56
 
Tuesday   ●   August 19   ●   7:10 PM   ●   TV: FSSD


RHP Ian Kennedy

9-10, 3.54 ERA
152.1 IP, 12 HR, 52 BB
163 K, .245 BAA



vs


RHP Kevin Correia

6-13, 4.79 ERA
135.1 IP, 13 HR, 33 BB
66 K, .293 BAA
 
Wednesday   ●   August 20   ●   7:10 PM   ●   TV: FSSD, ESPN


LHP Eric Stults

5-13, 4.64 ERA
130 IP, 21 HR, 33 BB
81 K, .281 BAA



vs


RHP Roberto Hernandez

7-8, 3.72 ERA
133 IP, 114 HR, 59 BB
85 K, .230 BAA
 
Thursday   ●  August 21   ●   7:10 PM   ●   TV: FSSD


RHP Tyson Ross

11-11, 2.70 ERA
166.2 IP, 11 HR, 60 BB
162 K, .228 BAA



vs


RHP Zack Greinke

12-8, 2.75 ERA
157.1 IP, 16 HR, 35 BB
170 K, .246 BAA


The Padres are coming off a rough series to the Cardinals losing 3 of 4 after winning 5 straight. Although it was not surprise, it was still diappointing and fustrating, especially Friday night's game. But, they still gained a game on the Dodgers, who were swept by the Brewers.

The Padres lost Alonso for the season, but it is a much bigger blow to the Dodgers to lose Uribe, RYU, and Beckett to the DL. Even without Beckett and Ryu the pitching still looks pretty tough. I hope our pitching will do better this series. Aside from the opportunity to gain three games on them, the Padres can be blessed in not having to face Kershaw.

The Padres are 10½ games behind the Dodgers with 9 head-to-head games left and 7 games behind the Giants, who play in Chicago this week, with 7  head-to- head games left. If they were to somehow sweep the Dodgers they would move up to 7½ behind. The Padres have a better chance to comeback and take the division, as the only have the Giants and Dodgers ahead of them, than to take the Wild Card, as they have seven teams ahead of them. Too many.

I know there are disbelievers who think the Padres season is over. But what is the point and fun of the season if we can't hope for the best that they make a comeback and a run for the division title. I know the Dodgers have owned the Padres this season with a 3-7 series record and that you all must think I am dreaming. Perhaps. But I choose to think positive and hope for the best.

LET'S ALL KEEP THE FAITH!
GO PADRES!




 THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES

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Posted: 08/18/2014 2:15 PM

Re: San Diego Padres @ Los Angeles Dodgers (August 19 - 21) 


The chances they win the division with 40 or so games and 10 back is slim to say the least
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Posted: 08/18/2014 4:38 PM

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I'll be at either Wednesday's or Thursday's game... not sure which yet. The match ups don't help, either. I can see both teams get blasted on Wednesday or both teams get shut down on Thursday. Hmmm...
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Posted: 08/18/2014 5:26 PM

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--- JC2400 wrote:

The chances they win the division with 40 or so games and 10 back is slim to say the least

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We have 39 games left.
We need to go 26-13 to have any chance.





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Last edited 08/18/2014 5:27 PM by MrPadre19

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Posted: 08/19/2014 4:53 PM

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Game 1 Lineup:

1. Solarte, 3B
2. Almonte, CF
3. Smith, LF
4. Gyorko, 2B
5. Goebbert, 1B
6. Liriano, RF
7. Rivera, C
8. Amarista, SS
9. Kennedy, P




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Posted: 08/19/2014 5:26 PM

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Game 1 Lineup:

1. Solarte, 3B
2. Almonte, CF
3. Smith, LF
4. Gyorko, 2B
5. Goebbert, 1B
6. Liriano, RF
7. Rivera, C
8. Amarista, SS
9. Kennedy, P

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It's crazy to look at that lineup and not see Headley,Maybin,Alonso,Venable,Quentin,Grandal and Cabrera.
Six out of eight starters (and Quentin)different than we originally planned.
In four months time we basically lost our entire lineup.
What's really a shame is it appears to be a better lineup.





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Posted: 08/19/2014 6:01 PM

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Solarte has been good in the 2 hole.

Amarista or Almonte should be in the top spot.

That said, I'm not sure if any of our current roster( or 40 man for that matter!) are lead off material.

Is Cabrera better suited for the 8 hole? Or, steroid free, can he be productive leading off?
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Posted: 08/19/2014 9:57 PM

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Tough to win if u cant play D. Also, Torres has horrible tempo and falls behind almost every hitter. Get the ball and throw it son...
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Posted: 08/19/2014 9:58 PM

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Solarte has been good in the 2 hole.

Amarista or Almonte should be in the top spot.

That said, I'm not sure if any of our current roster( or 40 man for that matter!) are lead off material.

Is Cabrera better suited for the 8 hole? Or, steroid free, can he be productive leading off?

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Leadoff guy should be on our Xmas list...
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Posted: 08/19/2014 10:43 PM

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The Padres lose an ugly one. The offense was there scoring 6 runs on 14 hits. The defense was not after the first inning and the pitching fell apart. Probably one of the worst defensive games of the season.

The game started out promising with the Padres taking a 3-run lead on a Gyorko HR in the top of the 1st and Kennedy pitching a solid 1-2-3 bottom of the inning as well as an outstanding play throwing out speedy Gordon.

Then, Kennedy falls apart.
Terrible defensive throws.
In one inning Kennedy cut off a throw and doesn't bother to throw the runner out at the plate when he had him out.
Torres is no longer reliable.
Almonte makes a bonehead running mistake in the 9th allowing himself to be too far off 3rd base  ending the game




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Posted: 08/20/2014 8:02 AM

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ultratvfan wrote: The Padres lose an ugly one. The offense was there scoring 6 runs on 14 hits. The defense was not after the first inning and the pitching fell apart. Probably one of the worst defensive games of the season.

The game started out promising with the Padres taking a 3-run lead on a Gyorko HR in the top of the 1st and Kennedy pitching a solid 1-2-3 bottom of the inning as well as an outstanding play throwing out speedy Gordon.

Then, Kennedy falls apart.
Terrible defensive throws.
In one inning Kennedy cut off a throw and doesn't bother to throw the runner out at the plate when he had him out.
Torres is no longer reliable.
Almonte makes a bonehead running mistake in the 9th allowing himself to be too far off 3rd base  ending the game
Dont think it was Kennedy on the cut Ultra, believe it was Goebbert who had a horrible game defensively. I thought Kennedy battled even though he didnt have his best stuff. Seems he may be getting a little gassed down the stretch. Velo is down from earlier in the season...
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Posted: 08/20/2014 9:21 AM

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Pads are 9-3 in games in which Almonte has played. I'm not crazy about him in CF, but LF perhaps? Anyone?
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Posted: 08/20/2014 11:55 AM

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claykirby1969 wrote: Pads are 9-3 in games in which Almonte has played. I'm not crazy about him in CF, but LF perhaps? Anyone?
Bench Smith (Padres best hitter) or bench Liriano (Padres best prospect on the 25 man) to put Almonte in a corner and let Maybin / Venable get the reps in CF. Better off with Almonte in CF (and moving around as the 4th OF) which is what will probably happen expecting to see Maybin get a fair amount of CF time (if nothing else to build some trade value) and Venable getting his time in RF when they want to sit Liriano.

Bet the Padres are going to be quite reasonable if someone calls on either Venable or Maybin … maybe both if Almonte begins to look like a decent alternative.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 2:05 PM

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claykirby1969 wrote:
ultratvfan wrote: The Padres lose an ugly one. The offense was there scoring 6 runs on 14 hits. The defense was not after the first inning and the pitching fell apart. Probably one of the worst defensive games of the season.

The game started out promising with the Padres taking a 3-run lead on a Gyorko HR in the top of the 1st and Kennedy pitching a solid 1-2-3 bottom of the inning as well as an outstanding play throwing out speedy Gordon.

Then, Kennedy falls apart.
Terrible defensive throws.
In one inning Kennedy cut off a throw and doesn't bother to throw the runner out at the plate when he had him out.
Torres is no longer reliable.
Almonte makes a bonehead running mistake in the 9th allowing himself to be too far off 3rd base  ending the game
Dont think it was Kennedy on the cut Ultra, believe it was Goebbert who had a horrible game defensively. I thought Kennedy battled even though he didnt have his best stuff. Seems he may be getting a little gassed down the stretch. Velo is down from earlier in the season...
It is heavily publicized that Kennedy has that oblique issue and not 100%. I have no idea why they haven't given him DL time instead of having 3 starts while he's hurting.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 3:09 PM

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lafnboy13 wrote:
claykirby1969 wrote:
ultratvfan wrote: The Padres lose an ugly one. The offense was there scoring 6 runs on 14 hits. The defense was not after the first inning and the pitching fell apart. Probably one of the worst defensive games of the season.

The game started out promising with the Padres taking a 3-run lead on a Gyorko HR in the top of the 1st and Kennedy pitching a solid 1-2-3 bottom of the inning as well as an outstanding play throwing out speedy Gordon.

Then, Kennedy falls apart.
Terrible defensive throws.
In one inning Kennedy cut off a throw and doesn't bother to throw the runner out at the plate when he had him out.
Torres is no longer reliable.
Almonte makes a bonehead running mistake in the 9th allowing himself to be too far off 3rd base  ending the game
Dont think it was Kennedy on the cut Ultra, believe it was Goebbert who had a horrible game defensively. I thought Kennedy battled even though he didnt have his best stuff. Seems he may be getting a little gassed down the stretch. Velo is down from earlier in the season...
It is heavily publicized that Kennedy has that oblique issue and not 100%. I have no idea why they haven't given him DL time instead of having 3 starts while he's hurting.
That's a good point.  You might see that this weekend to make room on the 25 man for Cashner without having to send Garces or Despaigne down.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 3:15 PM

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FENN68 wrote:
claykirby1969 wrote: Pads are 9-3 in games in which Almonte has played. I'm not crazy about him in CF, but LF perhaps? Anyone?
Bench Smith (Padres best hitter) or bench Liriano (Padres best prospect on the 25 man) to put Almonte in a corner and let Maybin / Venable get the reps in CF. Better off with Almonte in CF (and moving around as the 4th OF) which is what will probably happen expecting to see Maybin get a fair amount of CF time (if nothing else to build some trade value) and Venable getting his time in RF when they want to sit Liriano.

Bet the Padres are going to be quite reasonable if someone calls on either Venable or Maybin … maybe both if Almonte begins to look like a decent alternative.
Almonte runs horrible routes in CF.  I don't want to see him in CF at all if they can help it.  Rather have Venable out there every time with Almonte in a corner. I do remember the bad route Venable took in STL on Carpenter's double, but that is the exception with him; all too common with Almonte.

Thank the Red Sox might be tempted on Maybin if the Pads eat some of the contract? Their CF situation isn't the greatest unless they sign Castillo.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 3:41 PM

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Commie wrote:
FENN68 wrote:
claykirby1969 wrote: Pads are 9-3 in games in which Almonte has played. I'm not crazy about him in CF, but LF perhaps? Anyone?
Bench Smith (Padres best hitter) or bench Liriano (Padres best prospect on the 25 man) to put Almonte in a corner and let Maybin / Venable get the reps in CF. Better off with Almonte in CF (and moving around as the 4th OF) which is what will probably happen expecting to see Maybin get a fair amount of CF time (if nothing else to build some trade value) and Venable getting his time in RF when they want to sit Liriano.

Bet the Padres are going to be quite reasonable if someone calls on either Venable or Maybin … maybe both if Almonte begins to look like a decent alternative.
Almonte runs horrible routes in CF.  I don't want to see him in CF at all if they can help it.  Rather have Venable out there every time with Almonte in a corner. I do remember the bad route Venable took in STL on Carpenter's double, but that is the exception with him; all too common with Almonte.

Thank the Red Sox might be tempted on Maybin if the Pads eat some of the contract? Their CF situation isn't the greatest unless they sign Castillo.
Nothing I have seen to lock pro or con on Almonte's defense is CF (just too small a shot group … and I have see both very good and very bad) … but have not seen enough to see him displace Smith or Liriano. Venable is in his 30s and going on the last year of his contract … not the future (questionable present with looks like a diminishing defensive set of skills with age). Maybin has the defense and little else (even when he plays). All three have reasons not to play CF for the Padres … 

There may be a few teams that might interested in a CF (Maybin) … Toronto for one (Rasmus is a FA … and is stinking up the place this year), Boston assuming they don't get Castillo and Betts is not ready (Bradley seems to have lost favor), even Maybin's ex-team Detroit now that they moved Jackson. Padres need to know that they have a adequate CF in place … hence give the long look to Almonte when they are not "auditioning" Maybin. Probably a few others after the FA / retirements kick in. Just don't ask for too much.

A few teams may be interested in Venable as teams reevaluate after the season … Detroit again with no CF and Hunter in RF just getting much older, Atlanta (as a 4th OF and a break from B.J.Upton), Seattle who just needs OF, actually the list is pretty long if the Padres don't as for much in return. 

Hope for Fuentes (2015) or Spangenberg (2016) or Ma.Smith (2017) to actually develop as CF at some point.
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Posted: 08/20/2014 5:42 PM

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Game 3 Lineup:

1. Solarte, 3B
2. Almonte, CF
3. Smith, LF
4. Gyorko, 2B
5. Grandal, C
6. Goebbert, 1B
7. Liriano, RF
8. Amarista, SS
9. Stults, P

I hope it will be better tonight. The defense was more to blame than the pitching.

Kennedy may have been off his game last night being charged 5 of the 6 runs under him. But, not all the runs that were scored were his fault and I am not talking about unreliable Torres. Almonte had several bad throws that had they been on the money there would have been outs and less runs, and in one inning the cutoff man didn't throw to the plate for the out, instead allowed the run to score.

I hope the defense is a lot better tonight.




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Posted: 08/20/2014 6:53 PM

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FENN68 wrote:
Commie wrote:
FENN68 wrote:
claykirby1969 wrote: Pads are 9-3 in games in which Almonte has played. I'm not crazy about him in CF, but LF perhaps? Anyone?
Bench Smith (Padres best hitter) or bench Liriano (Padres best prospect on the 25 man) to put Almonte in a corner and let Maybin / Venable get the reps in CF. Better off with Almonte in CF (and moving around as the 4th OF) which is what will probably happen expecting to see Maybin get a fair amount of CF time (if nothing else to build some trade value) and Venable getting his time in RF when they want to sit Liriano.

Bet the Padres are going to be quite reasonable if someone calls on either Venable or Maybin … maybe both if Almonte begins to look like a decent alternative.
Almonte runs horrible routes in CF.  I don't want to see him in CF at all if they can help it.  Rather have Venable out there every time with Almonte in a corner. I do remember the bad route Venable took in STL on Carpenter's double, but that is the exception with him; all too common with Almonte.

Thank the Red Sox might be tempted on Maybin if the Pads eat some of the contract? Their CF situation isn't the greatest unless they sign Castillo.
Nothing I have seen to lock pro or con on Almonte's defense is CF (just too small a shot group … and I have see both very good and very bad) … but have not seen enough to see him displace Smith or Liriano. Venable is in his 30s and going on the last year of his contract … not the future (questionable present with looks like a diminishing defensive set of skills with age). Maybin has the defense and little else (even when he plays). All three have reasons not to play CF for the Padres … 

There may be a few teams that might interested in a CF (Maybin) … Toronto for one (Rasmus is a FA … and is stinking up the place this year), Boston assuming they don't get Castillo and Betts is not ready (Bradley seems to have lost favor), even Maybin's ex-team Detroit now that they moved Jackson. Padres need to know that they have a adequate CF in place … hence give the long look to Almonte when they are not "auditioning" Maybin. Probably a few others after the FA / retirements kick in. Just don't ask for too much.

A few teams may be interested in Venable as teams reevaluate after the season … Detroit again with no CF and Hunter in RF just getting much older, Atlanta (as a 4th OF and a break from B.J.Upton), Seattle who just needs OF, actually the list is pretty long if the Padres don't as for much in return. 

Hope for Fuentes (2015) or Spangenberg (2016) or Ma.Smith (2017) to actually develop as CF at some point.
Man, I hope your guarded optimism on Almonte in the field is warranted.  To me his routes are a joke.  Maybe I'm just not that good at judging, especially on TV where its hard to get a good read.

Gotta eat salary on Maybin if they deal him I'd think.  I'm inclined to try one more year before cutting ties.  Better to do it one year too late than one year too early.

Spangy should be ready sometime in 2015 if he ever delivers.  If/when they go for position player in the offseason, I'd think power hitting 1B would be near the top of the list, not CF.  Cron?
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Posted: 08/20/2014 11:35 PM

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Stults looked surprisingly good and defesne was much better.

Greinke will not pitch tomorrow because of elbow soreness. Unfortunately, Kershaw has been moved up to pitch tomorrow. Kershaw has given up more than 3 runs only once when he gave up 7 runs on Arizona back in May. Even the best pitchers can have an off day. Let's hope this is his.




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