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2nd half

Posted: 07/12/2014 7:27 AM

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Well this is the time of year when we usually heat up just enough to get excited for next season.
I expect the bats to heat up and the Pads to make a little run for the division.10 games out and know one has any faith in them.Are Tampa Bay fans throwing in the towel yet?No.Are Red Sox fans throwing in the towel yet?No.
KEEP THE FAITH.GO PADS.
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Posted: 07/12/2014 7:29 AM

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Phillies will also make a run IMO.
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Posted: 07/12/2014 8:05 AM

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I also feel the bats will improve but any "move" we make will be dependent on any "moves" we make....or don't make.
What happens with Headley,Kennedy.Denorfia,etc....will go along way to helping us know if we have anything left for this season.
Also,obviously,the pitching has to continue possibly without the steady work of Kennedy.
With Hahn more than likely about to be shut down we need one or possibly two guys to step up.
Erlin?
Do we promote someone?
Wisler....Oramas.....Roach?
Oramas has pitched alot better lately than his numbers indicate.





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Posted: 07/12/2014 10:06 AM

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Why would you think Hahn will be shut down?

It sounds like you have already thrown in the towel. Besides Erlin and Casher and not close to being back. Hahn will be here until the end of the season. He has been up only just over a month -- 7 starts.

If the Padres win the next two against the Dodgers they will  be 8 games behind them before the AS break, maybe 8 out of first place depending on how the Giants do.

I hope our hitters start doing well. Then their trade value will go up.

Like the OP said, keep the faith.




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Posted: 07/12/2014 10:58 AM

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ultratvfan wrote: Why would you think Hahn will be shut down?

It sounds like you have already thrown in the towel. Besides Erlin and Casher and not close to being back. Hahn will be here until the end of the season. He has been up only just over a month -- 7 starts.

If the Padres win the next two against the Dodgers they will  be 8 games behind them before the AS break, maybe 8 out of first place depending on how the Giants do.

I hope our hitters start doing well. Then their trade value will go up.

Like the OP said, keep the faith.
Because the Padres said they would after about 110 innings (ML + MiL) this season … big increase over his past few years recovering from TJ. Still should get to late August. If Cashner and Erlin are  not pitching by then … bigger issues than Hahn getting his starts.
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Posted: 07/12/2014 11:02 AM

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Why would you think Hahn will be shut down?

It sounds like you have already thrown in the towel. Besides Erlin and Casher and not close to being back. Hahn will be here until the end of the season. He has been up only just over a month -- 7 starts.

If the Padres win the next two against the Dodgers they will  be 8 games behind them before the AS break, maybe 8 out of first place depending on how the Giants do.

I hope our hitters start doing well. Then their trade value will go up.

Like the OP said, keep the faith.

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Ha......MrPadre throwing in the towel?
You obviously haven't been paying attention.

Hahn has never thrown this many innings and is not far removed from injury.
They aren't going to risk his entire career and push him all year no matter where we are in the standings.





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Posted: 07/12/2014 11:18 AM

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ultratvfan wrote: Why would you think Hahn will be shut down?

It sounds like you have already thrown in the towel. Besides Erlin and Casher and not close to being back. Hahn will be here until the end of the season. He has been up only just over a month -- 7 starts.

If the Padres win the next two against the Dodgers they will  be 8 games behind them before the AS break, maybe 8 out of first place depending on how the Giants do.

I hope our hitters start doing well. Then their trade value will go up.

Like the OP said, keep the faith.
They need to shut him down because he has an injury history and because his career high in IP prior to 2014 was 69.  He's already surpassed that.  He'd be on pace to throw something like 130-140 innings if they didn't shut him down.  Doubling the workload of your young pitchers is not a great idea.

And as to what the rotation would look like, I don't have a problem letting Oramas or Sampson or Wisler come up and get some innings in.

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Posted: 07/12/2014 11:57 AM

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Moldenke wrote:
ultratvfan wrote: Why would you think Hahn will be shut down?

It sounds like you have already thrown in the towel. Besides Erlin and Casher and not close to being back. Hahn will be here until the end of the season. He has been up only just over a month -- 7 starts.

If the Padres win the next two against the Dodgers they will  be 8 games behind them before the AS break, maybe 8 out of first place depending on how the Giants do.

I hope our hitters start doing well. Then their trade value will go up.

Like the OP said, keep the faith.
They need to shut him down because he has an injury history and because his career high in IP prior to 2014 was 69.  He's already surpassed that.  He'd be on pace to throw something like 130-140 innings if they didn't shut him down.  Doubling the workload of your young pitchers is not a great idea.

And as to what the rotation would look like, I don't have a problem letting Oramas or Sampson or Wisler come up and get some innings in.
Actually, barring a trade: Cashner, Ross, Kennedy, Stults, and Despaigne … don't yet have to worry about any call-ups plus that does not even count Erlin. Too early to speculate … a lot of time before he reaches his limit.

As for Wisler … I am aligned with those cheap owners who will manipulate service to add a control year on a top prospect. With Wisler, since he was drafted out of HS in 2011, do not think they need to protect him this winter, so not using a roster spot now saves one for someone who needs to be protected. Also, if they add him now (and start him in AAA next year) they will use one of his 3 MiL options. Also, if they add him now he starts adding ML service time which will get him to FA sooner. None of that is good just to see him in the end of 2014 on a 3rd division team. Better strategy is to not add him to the roster … start him in AAA for one month in 2015 … then bring him up which would give the Padres control of him for 2015 PLUS 6 years … if he is that good is that not better than a pointless look and see?

If it came to that …. much rather see them look a Roach or Oramas in the end of 2014 … both on the 40 man roster … to see in ML conditions if they have any future with the club and that would help shape moves this winter with all the pitchers.
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Posted: 07/12/2014 1:02 PM

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Yeah shutting done Hahn won't hurt us if Cashner stays healthy and we don't trade Kennedy.
Other than the fact he's been so damn good!
I'd like to see Oramas or someone get Hahns starts instead of someone we've already seen so we can see what "they" have going forward.





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Posted: 07/14/2014 3:04 PM

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Two 1-0 losses in a row .OK Im thawing in the towel.
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Posted: 07/14/2014 3:45 PM

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dgalvan wrote: Two 1-0 losses in a row .OK Im thawing in the towel.
Why? Was it frozen?
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Posted: 07/14/2014 6:14 PM

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sportwarrior wrote:
dgalvan wrote: Two 1-0 losses in a row .OK Im thawing in the towel.
Why? Was it frozen?
lol .throwing
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Posted: 07/16/2014 7:07 PM

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Looking at the match ups for this weekend, it looks like there are more than a few series that could make or break a season for a couple of teams. Pads vs. Mets is one of them.....if we sweep the Mets, that may force them into sellers mode. Marlins need a great series with the Giants to keep from falling too far back. The Brewers and Nats will be a good series as well as the loser stand to loose some ground in their respective divisions. Same for the Dodgers vs, Cards. Stands to reason, that this weekends results could change the playing field for trades at the deadline.

 

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