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Seth Smith Signs Contract Extension

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Posted: 07/02/2014 11:26 AM

Seth Smith Signs Contract Extension 


The Padres locked up their best hitter on Wednesday, signing Seth Smith to a two-year deal worth $13 million. 141847_cheers.GIF 

Smith, who would have been a free agent after the 2014 season, is making $4.5 million this year.

Smith takes a team-best .281 average into Wednesday's series finale against the Reds at Petco Park. He had three hits in Tuesday's 8-2 victory, including his ninth home run of the season. Smith has 25 RBIs, an on-base percentage of .384 and a slugging percentage of .506.

Nice trade by Byrnes and good plan to keep him for a couple years at that price.


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Posted: 07/02/2014 11:31 AM

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thrownoutatsecond wrote: The Padres locked up their best hitter on Wednesday, signing Seth Smith to a two-year deal worth $13 million. 141847_cheers.GIF 

Smith, who would have been a free agent after the 2014 season, is making $4.5 million this year.

Smith takes a team-best .281 average into Wednesday's series finale against the Reds at Petco Park. He had three hits in Tuesday's 8-2 victory, including his ninth home run of the season. Smith has 25 RBIs, an on-base percentage of .384 and a slugging percentage of .506.

Nice trade by Byrnes and good plan to keep him for a couple years at that price.

This is good news.
Gee,whatever happened to the GM that traded for him and sent a bunch of backups to Tampa for Jesse Hahn and Alex Torres?





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Posted: 07/02/2014 11:41 AM

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MrPadre19 wrote:
thrownoutatsecond wrote: The Padres locked up their best hitter on Wednesday, signing Seth Smith to a two-year deal worth $13 million. 141847_cheers.GIF 

Smith, who would have been a free agent after the 2014 season, is making $4.5 million this year.

Smith takes a team-best .281 average into Wednesday's series finale against the Reds at Petco Park. He had three hits in Tuesday's 8-2 victory, including his ninth home run of the season. Smith has 25 RBIs, an on-base percentage of .384 and a slugging percentage of .506.

Nice trade by Byrnes and good plan to keep him for a couple years at that price.

This is good news.
Gee,whatever happened to the GM that traded for him and sent a bunch of backups to Tampa for Jesse Hahn and Alex Torres?

He's golfing at Torrey Pines.  I think his foursome is Cory Luebke, Josh Johnson, and Jedd Gyorko.

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Posted: 07/02/2014 11:44 AM

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UncleBolt wrote:
MrPadre19 wrote:
thrownoutatsecond wrote: The Padres locked up their best hitter on Wednesday, signing Seth Smith to a two-year deal worth $13 million. 141847_cheers.GIF 

Smith, who would have been a free agent after the 2014 season, is making $4.5 million this year.

Smith takes a team-best .281 average into Wednesday's series finale against the Reds at Petco Park. He had three hits in Tuesday's 8-2 victory, including his ninth home run of the season. Smith has 25 RBIs, an on-base percentage of .384 and a slugging percentage of .506.

Nice trade by Byrnes and good plan to keep him for a couple years at that price.

This is good news.
Gee,whatever happened to the GM that traded for him and sent a bunch of backups to Tampa for Jesse Hahn and Alex Torres?

He's golfing at Torrey Pines.  I think his foursome is Cory Luebke, Josh Johnson, and Jedd Gyorko.
I take that back.  He is actually detailing Carlos Quentin's car at the Petco players parking lot.  He is obligated to do it for three years, despite the fact the car is an old, broken down wreck.

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Posted: 07/02/2014 12:48 PM

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thrownoutatsecond wrote: The Padres locked up their best hitter on Wednesday, signing Seth Smith to a two-year deal worth $13 million. 141847_cheers.GIF 

Smith, who would have been a free agent after the 2014 season, is making $4.5 million this year.

Smith takes a team-best .281 average into Wednesday's series finale against the Reds at Petco Park. He had three hits in Tuesday's 8-2 victory, including his ninth home run of the season. Smith has 25 RBIs, an on-base percentage of .384 and a slugging percentage of .506.

Nice trade by Byrnes and good plan to keep him for a couple years at that price.

I am happy. Now, I hope they lock up Street, as well as Benoit and Deno.


 
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Posted: 07/02/2014 2:14 PM

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Locking up a player when his value is at its realistic peak is never a great idea.

But then again, i imagine they gauged trade interest and thought it was smarter to keep him around.  The money isn't crazy, but whatever.

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Posted: 07/02/2014 2:22 PM

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I'm surprised few are questioning the $$ in this deal. $6.5 per year is not terrible. In fact, it's a pretty good deal if Smith continues to produce like this, but hard to believe he'll stay in a quasi-reserve role now and I'm curious how that will impact his production. He hasn't been a full-time player at any stop in his 8-year career, and is coming off back to back sub-800 OPS seasons playing almost exclusively against RHP.

I suppose you could argue that at his rate of production (say .800-.825 OPS, for example, conservatively IF we see him continue to be successful) over a full season is a $12-15MM player, and thus cut in half for half the AB would be somewhere in the $6.5MM area, but having trouble still finding comps around the league to this.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 2:33 PM

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DaveyPinstripes wrote: I'm surprised few are questioning the $$ in this deal. $6.5 per year is not terrible. In fact, it's a pretty good deal if Smith continues to produce like this, but hard to believe he'll stay in a quasi-reserve role now and I'm curious how that will impact his production. He hasn't been a full-time player at any stop in his 8-year career, and is coming off back to back sub-800 OPS seasons playing almost exclusively against RHP.

I suppose you could argue that at his rate of production (say .800-.825 OPS, for example, conservatively IF we see him continue to be successful) over a full season is a $12-15MM player, and thus cut in half for half the AB would be somewhere in the $6.5MM area, but having trouble still finding comps around the league to this.
This was some commentary on MLBTradeRumors:

In terms of value, Smith will receive a deal that lands just north of several two-year contracts signed over the last free agent period. David Murphy got two years and $12MM from the Indians, while Rajai Davis and Nate McLouth received two-year pacts for between $10MM and $10.75MM. Put in those terms, the deal appears to be a fair one for both sides, with each avoiding the risk of shifts in second-half performance as well as the unpredictable nature of the open market.

So, from a neutral source … a fair deal.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 2:45 PM

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I definitely think it's a fair deal. I'm not sure anyone really needs to question that. The question is whether it's the kind of deal this team needed to make. I think that the Padres probably see him as a valuable super sub in the OF at worst, and at best a starter that can act as a bridge and hold down a corner OF until Liriano and Renfroe are ready.

Ultimately, I'm ok with it. I would have liked to have seen what we could have gotten via trade, but the trade market is on sort of a depressed trend in recent years so I'm not sure we could have gotten anything really exciting for him.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 2:52 PM

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Seems like a good deal after looking at his stats this season compared to the monkey's occupying other spots on our roster.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 2:56 PM

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sportwarrior wrote: I definitely think it's a fair deal. I'm not sure anyone really needs to question that. The question is whether it's the kind of deal this team needed to make. I think that the Padres probably see him as a valuable super sub in the OF at worst, and at best a starter that can act as a bridge and hold down a corner OF until Liriano and Renfroe are ready.

Ultimately, I'm ok with it. I would have liked to have seen what we could have gotten via trade, but the trade market is on sort of a depressed trend in recent years so I'm not sure we could have gotten anything really exciting for him.
Yes, exactly:  it's not a bad deal, it's just maybe a curious one.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:06 PM

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This deal makes no sense right now. I'm surprised so many people are positive about it.

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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:16 PM

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DontBeAGyorko wrote: This deal makes no sense right now. I'm surprised so many people are positive about it.

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Right now, Smith is our best hitter by miles. No one is close. I'm guessing that is the main reason this deal was done. Everyone else sucks!
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:22 PM

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ChargersWinII wrote:
DontBeAGyorko wrote: This deal makes no sense right now. I'm surprised so many people are positive about it.

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Right now, Smith is our best hitter by miles. No one is close. I'm guessing that is the main reason this deal was done. Everyone else sucks!

You say he's our best hitter, I say he's our best trade bait. What really concerns me is, after the deal, Smith said, "That was my first question: 'Are we going to try to win and try to win now?' And the answer was. 'Yes.' So I was like, 'I'm in.'"

What is the FO thinking? They're not actually trying to win now with this group, are they? They can't be that stupid. What's going on here?
 
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:26 PM

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Smith is a proven ML hitter against RH pitching and this year he hasn't been super terrible against LH pitching (108 OPS+).    He will be making, in baseball money, a little bit more than what he is now.  I think it's a good deal for both sides.




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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:27 PM

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FENN68 wrote:
DaveyPinstripes wrote: I'm surprised few are questioning the $$ in this deal. $6.5 per year is not terrible. In fact, it's a pretty good deal if Smith continues to produce like this, but hard to believe he'll stay in a quasi-reserve role now and I'm curious how that will impact his production. He hasn't been a full-time player at any stop in his 8-year career, and is coming off back to back sub-800 OPS seasons playing almost exclusively against RHP.

I suppose you could argue that at his rate of production (say .800-.825 OPS, for example, conservatively IF we see him continue to be successful) over a full season is a $12-15MM player, and thus cut in half for half the AB would be somewhere in the $6.5MM area, but having trouble still finding comps around the league to this.
This was some commentary on MLBTradeRumors:

In terms of value, Smith will receive a deal that lands just north of several two-year contracts signed over the last free agent period. David Murphy got two years and $12MM from the Indians, while Rajai Davis and Nate McLouth received two-year pacts for between $10MM and $10.75MM. Put in those terms, the deal appears to be a fair one for both sides, with each avoiding the risk of shifts in second-half performance as well as the unpredictable nature of the open market.

So, from a neutral source … a fair deal.
Murphy actually is a very good comp. I hope Smith continues to hit.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:27 PM

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Another factor is that Smith was being touted by the national media types as the best available bat at the trade deadline.  If a team needs hitting and they have the best available bat in house and can sign him for a "fair" price …. got to do it since apparently the alternatives are not as good. They need multiple good bats … and likely multiple good bats are not available for what the Padres have to offer … so they have one locked up now.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:40 PM

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DontBeAGyorko wrote:
ChargersWinII wrote:
DontBeAGyorko wrote: This deal makes no sense right now. I'm surprised so many people are positive about it.

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Right now, Smith is our best hitter by miles. No one is close. I'm guessing that is the main reason this deal was done. Everyone else sucks!

You say he's our best hitter, I say he's our best trade bait. What really concerns me is, after the deal, Smith said, "That was my first question: 'Are we going to try to win and try to win now?' And the answer was. 'Yes.' So I was like, 'I'm in.'"

What is the FO thinking? They're not actually trying to win now with this group, are they? They can't be that stupid. What's going on here?
I very honestly think that Dee is supremely misguided about this team.  He seems to think that just because the payroll is as high as it's ever been, that a playoff berth is just a piece or two away.  Definitely not the case.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:42 PM

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If you're wanting to trade him, you should be happy with this deal. Having him under control for 2 years at a very fair price should only increase his trade value, I'd think.
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Posted: 07/02/2014 3:52 PM

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I was about to say..... Who says we can't still trade him?
Also, who says we didn't already "see what we could get for him in a deal"
Lastly.... This team has shown that if we score four runs we win.
Why is it impossible to think that guys who hit last year..... But haven't so far this season,
could hit in the second half?
So let's trade Headley and Venable and "maybe" one of Kennedy/Street/Benoit
for a bat or two and see what happens?
Didn't Ross,Hahn, and Despaigne just show us we can beat good teams with just a
little bit of offense?

Go ahead...... Throw in the towel if you want, but don't act like you knew
it all along and had faith if we are in the Wild Card hunt in two months.





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