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Consensus top 30 prospect rankings

  • brianmcon
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Posted: 02/04/2013 5:04 PM

Consensus top 30 prospect rankings 


I love doing this!  This is a consensus of Nine different Top 10 – Top 30 lists.  I weighted them equally, so my biggest weighting is simply inclusion.  I made a few judgement calls mostly because Bill Center didn’t include players with ANY big league experience-- the others all did.  It’s obvious the Padres again have a very deep & talented system, especially in pitching.

The top 2:  It was neck & neck between:  1) Jedd Gyorko-2B/3B & 2) Rymer Liriano-RF. Each was in the top 3 on 7 of the 9 lists, and both are top 100 MLB prospects: #50 & 55.

Next 3:  Just behind, also closely grouped were: 3) Casey Kelly –RHP/S,  4) Austin Hedges-C, & 5) Max Fried-LHP/S.  The received 3, 4, & 4 top 3 votes each; with Hedges receiving 3 #1 votes, but others putting him slightly lower.  All are also top 100 MLB prospects:  #69, 73, & 53 respectively.

Just missed?:   Even coming off his injury, it’s likely 6) Robbie Erlin-LHP/S just missed MLB’s  top 100 prospects list.  He was on all 9 lists, including all 3 top 10 lists with 2 votes in the top 3.  No lower ranked player was ranked in the top 3 on any of the 9 lists.

Consensus top 10:  But also on every top 10 list were:  7) Matt Wisler-RHP/S  & 8) Adys Portillo-RHP/S

Consensus top 20:  Missing from only 1 top 10 list were:  9) Joe Ross-RHP/S & 10) Cory Spangenberg-2B  Getting 1 of 3 top 10 votes was:  11) Donn Roach-RHP/S.  On no top 10 list, but all 6 top 20-30 lists were:  12) Keyvius Sampson-RHP/S & 13) Jace Peterson-SS.

5 of 6 lists:   I decide to rank 14) Joe Wieland-RHP/S here; he was on 1 top 10 list & excluded only by Bill Center on the top 20-30 lists.  He is the lowest ranked player to make a top 10 list.  Next were: 15) Burch Smith-RHP/S & 16) Walker Weickel-RHP/S.   I also decided to insert: 17) Brad Boxberger-RHP/R & 18) James Darnell-3B/LF here; they were each excluded by Center AND one other top 20/30 list, but their consensus average rankings clearly put them ahead of the next tightly bunched group that were all on 5 of 6 lists:  19) Zach Eflin-RHP/S, 20) Matt Andriese-RHP/S, 21 ) Johnny Barbato-RHP/R, 22) Matt Stites-RHP/R,  & 23) Kevin Quackenbush-RHP/R.

4 of 6 lists:  Making 4 of 6 top 20/30 lists were:  24) Yeison Ascencio-RF & 25) Travis Jankowski-CF.

3 of 6 lists:  On half of the top 20/30 lists were:  26) Edinson Rincon- 3B/OF, 27) Tommy Medica-1B, 28) James Needy-RHP/S, & 29) Johnathan Galvez-2B.

2 of 6 lists:  Rounding out the top “30” were:   30) Nate Freiman-1B (lost in Rule 5 to Houston), 31) Frank Garces-LHP/S, & 32) Andrew Lockett-RHP/S.

Also mentioned:   Coming in between 20-30 in just one person’s opinion were:  Nick Vincent-RHP/R (only exception: ranked #13 by Coniff), Justin Hancock-RHP/S, Juan Pablo Oramas-LHP/S, Rodney Daal-C, Cody Decker-OF/1B, and formerly highly ranked Jaff Decker-OF, & Donovan Tate-OF.  Also Andrew Werner-LHP/S (traded to Oakland)


Notably Absent:
  In Padres camp but out of the lower echelon from last year are Jason Hagerty-C, & Jeudy Valdez-SS.  Also getting no mention were last year’s 2nd round college position players:  Jeremy Baltz-OF & Dane Phillips-C.

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Posted: 02/04/2013 7:26 PM

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Nicely done, brian! I'll put our top 5 up against anybody else's system at this point. With Hedges stepping up and Fried waiting for his chance, there's some real elite potential that everyone's been clamoring about us lacking. Liriano is still TBD, but you have to love to dream on a guy like that. We have guys in the 12-20 range that would easily crack other systems top 10, probably even top 5 for some of the lower systems.

They've been building this "pipeline" for almost a decade now...it's time to cash in on some of those investments.
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Posted: 02/08/2013 6:55 AM

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Dre1023 wrote: Nicely done, brian! I'll put our top 5 up against anybody else's system at this point. With Hedges stepping up and Fried waiting for his chance, there's some real elite potential that everyone's been clamoring about us lacking. Liriano is still TBD, but you have to love to dream on a guy like that. We have guys in the 12-20 range that would easily crack other systems top 10, probably even top 5 for some of the lower systems.

They've been building this "pipeline" for almost a decade now...it's time to cash in on some of those investments.

Thanks!  I agree; we don't have any top 50 "uber prospects" per MLB, but the strength is the depth, especially in pitching.  So many guys like Burch Smith, Weickel, etc would have easily been top 10 in Padres system just a few years ago.   If the top 5 are eventually: starting 2B/3B, starting RF, #3 starting pitcher (Kelly), starting C, and #1-2 starter (Fried)... NOT BAD!

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Posted: 02/08/2013 8:30 AM

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Nice job Brian.
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Posted: 02/08/2013 10:19 AM

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Productive seasons by guys like Liriano,Fried,Hedges,Kelly,and Erlin could change that.
I could see with graduations from other teams and good years from those guys,one or more of them moving into the top 30 in the league.





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Posted: 02/08/2013 10:35 AM

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I could actually see 3 if our prospects moving into the top 30-40 next year with the combination of other prospects graduating/having disappointing years and our 3 having another impressive year. The 3 being Liriano, Hedges, and Fried. I can also seeing another close to a handful of prospects cracking the top 100 next year (top draft pick, Ross, Roach, wisler, Portillo)
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Posted: 02/08/2013 10:49 AM

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If Hedges goes out and makes the Cal All star game or something and finishes in AA, I could see him sneaking into maybe the 15-20 range. Elite defense at a premium position, a C that wouldn't be out of place hitting ~6th, and from all accounts has a tremendous aptitude for baseball...yeah, that's a heckuva profile.

Fried would have to have a pretty epic year to get near the top 30, but I'm not going to put any constraints on what he could do to the Midwest League. He's still really far away though, so that will play against him placing super high in any of the top prospect lists for the first couple years of his pro career.
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