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Infielder competition

Posted: 03/17/2013 4:10 PM

Infielder competition 


From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
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Posted: 03/17/2013 4:20 PM

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Can the A's start Nakajima at AAA?
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Posted: 03/17/2013 4:52 PM

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APlus100 wrote: From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
It is certainly tightening up, isn't it?  The other guy I like the looks of is Shane Peterson, though  being an outfielder, not really any chance there will be a spot for him, but would like to see more of him.  Not sure, but did I hear he has played some first base, as well?
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Posted: 03/17/2013 4:52 PM

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Actually, that may not be a bad idea until Nakajima adjusts to US ball (assuming he does). Might be a tough PR move after the hype when they signed him...but I would want the best players on the 25-man. If he's not ready to be one of those top 25, send him down.
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Posted: 03/17/2013 4:57 PM

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Kind of an OT:  But in both yesterday's and today's telecast (where we got the other team's announcers) I really appreciated ... the Angel's announcers especially ... as they did an outstanding job of keeping us informed whenever a prospect, especially, entered the game and along with background details/info of each one.  In short, they did their homework and they passed it along.  Cubs broadcasters did a pretty good job too, but I was especially impressed with Angels' telecasters. 

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Posted: 03/17/2013 5:17 PM

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Totally agree. That's kind of why I think vin scully is the best. He just tells stories and I'm rapt listening to him. He clearly does his homework and too many don't.
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Kind of an OT:  But in both yesterday's and today's telecast (where we got the other team's announcers) I really appreciated ... the Angel's announcers especially ... as they did an outstanding job of keeping us informed whenever a prospect, especially, entered the game and along with background details/info of each one.  In short, they did their homework and they passed it along.  Cubs broadcasters did a pretty good job too, but I was especially impressed with Angels' telecasters. 



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Posted: 03/17/2013 6:05 PM

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Christina Kahrl wrote something this afternoon about this situation on ESPN's baseball blog.  Nothing that hasn't already been discussed, but has a couple more quotes from Melvin about Nakajima, of which this is one:

>>"He's very personable, he's always in a good mood. He works very hard, but I think to an extent, he still has to kind of find his way and get comfortable, both offensively and defensively."<<
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Posted: 03/18/2013 8:45 AM

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I see where Chris Carter hit 2 2R HRs.  He'll probably hit 40 HRs this year  ... and most of them against us. frown
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Posted: 03/18/2013 10:03 AM

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oaklady wrote:
APlus100 wrote: From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
It is certainly tightening up, isn't it?  The other guy I like the looks of is Shane Peterson, though  being an outfielder, not really any chance there will be a spot for him, but would like to see more of him.  Not sure, but did I hear he has played some first base, as well?

Even though its just spring training oaklady, it is indeed hard not to be impressed by Shane Peterson. Hitting the heck out of the ball, looks like an excellent eye and discipline as well. Has looked quite steady defensively in the OF and yes he does play some 1B, which probably helps him and brings up a question that I have...

Who is this teams back-up 1B on the 25 man? If Brandon Moss gets hit by a pitch in the first week and misses a few games,  who is the guy that steps in for him off the 25 man? Cause im having a hard time seeing who that might be myself...I think Lowrie will be busy at 2B, SS especially and 3B...If the team breaks with 13 position players, then you have Lowrie, Norris, Young as 3 spots locked in...Presumably perhaps a Rosales gets that 13th spot. Or maybe someone like Peterson because he has played well and can play 1B and OF...Maybe one of the other middle infielders competing gets the last spot....Hard to say but right now I dont know who the alternative guy is at 1B....No bad start or slumps for Moss because he is out there on his lonesome it appears...
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Posted: 03/18/2013 10:12 AM

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oaklady wrote: I see where Chris Carter hit 2 2R HRs.  He'll probably hit 40 HRs this year  ... and most of them against us. frown
Good for him, he was having a pretty quiet spring up to that point.  I see he is playing LF almost exclusively, it will be interesting to see how he works out for the Astros.
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Posted: 03/18/2013 10:17 AM

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It's too bad Seth Smith hasn't been out there this spring.  Seems like a logical choice, and he's athletic enough to pick up 1B pretty quick and give Defense maybe on par with Moss, certainly better than Carter would have.
RevZekeVodka wrote:
oaklady wrote:
APlus100 wrote: From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
It is certainly tightening up, isn't it?  The other guy I like the looks of is Shane Peterson, though  being an outfielder, not really any chance there will be a spot for him, but would like to see more of him.  Not sure, but did I hear he has played some first base, as well?

Even though its just spring training oaklady, it is indeed hard not to be impressed by Shane Peterson. Hitting the heck out of the ball, looks like an excellent eye and discipline as well. Has looked quite steady defensively in the OF and yes he does play some 1B, which probably helps him and brings up a question that I have...

Who is this teams back-up 1B on the 25 man? If Brandon Moss gets hit by a pitch in the first week and misses a few games,  who is the guy that steps in for him off the 25 man? Cause im having a hard time seeing who that might be myself...I think Lowrie will be busy at 2B, SS especially and 3B...If the team breaks with 13 position players, then you have Lowrie, Norris, Young as 3 spots locked in...Presumably perhaps a Rosales gets that 13th spot. Or maybe someone like Peterson because he has played well and can play 1B and OF...Maybe one of the other middle infielders competing gets the last spot....Hard to say but right now I dont know who the alternative guy is at 1B....No bad start or slumps for Moss because he is out there on his lonesome it appears...
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Posted: 03/18/2013 11:22 AM

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RevZekeVodka wrote:
oaklady wrote:
APlus100 wrote: From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
It is certainly tightening up, isn't it?  The other guy I like the looks of is Shane Peterson, though  being an outfielder, not really any chance there will be a spot for him, but would like to see more of him.  Not sure, but did I hear he has played some first base, as well?

Even though its just spring training oaklady, it is indeed hard not to be impressed by Shane Peterson. Hitting the heck out of the ball, looks like an excellent eye and discipline as well. Has looked quite steady defensively in the OF and yes he does play some 1B, which probably helps him and brings up a question that I have...

Who is this teams back-up 1B on the 25 man? If Brandon Moss gets hit by a pitch in the first week and misses a few games,  who is the guy that steps in for him off the 25 man? Cause im having a hard time seeing who that might be myself...I think Lowrie will be busy at 2B, SS especially and 3B...If the team breaks with 13 position players, then you have Lowrie, Norris, Young as 3 spots locked in...Presumably perhaps a Rosales gets that 13th spot. Or maybe someone like Peterson because he has played well and can play 1B and OF...Maybe one of the other middle infielders competing gets the last spot....Hard to say but right now I dont know who the alternative guy is at 1B....No bad start or slumps for Moss because he is out there on his lonesome it appears...

Lowrie would be the first  base second option with Rosales being the third in line

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Posted: 03/18/2013 11:38 AM

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Thats what I have thought Speed since Lowrie was acquired. That Lowrie would play against some lefties and be the backup 1B. Yet with the Nakajima issues-along with im not sure Lowrie has even played yet at 1B this spring has he?- its now looking to me like Lowrie might need to be looked at as a first choice option type at SS with Nakajima's issues...And we dont even know if Rosie even breaks camp with the team so what hapens if say Sogard or Parrino is the last guy?.....Im not stressing over this or anything but it does look like a small quandry, exacerbated by the concerns with Nakajima, which almost limits you to an extent with Lowrie...If Lowrie becomes more of a one -position, full time SS because of Nakajima, then that limits moving him all over the infield as was thought to be the original plan. At least thats my take on it, perhaps im missing something.
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Posted: 03/18/2013 12:00 PM

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RevZekeVodka wrote:
oaklady wrote:
APlus100 wrote: From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
It is certainly tightening up, isn't it?  The other guy I like the looks of is Shane Peterson, though  being an outfielder, not really any chance there will be a spot for him, but would like to see more of him.  Not sure, but did I hear he has played some first base, as well?

Even though its just spring training oaklady, it is indeed hard not to be impressed by Shane Peterson. Hitting the heck out of the ball, looks like an excellent eye and discipline as well. Has looked quite steady defensively in the OF and yes he does play some 1B, which probably helps him and brings up a question that I have...

Who is this teams back-up 1B on the 25 man? If Brandon Moss gets hit by a pitch in the first week and misses a few games,  who is the guy that steps in for him off the 25 man? Cause im having a hard time seeing who that might be myself...I think Lowrie will be busy at 2B, SS especially and 3B...If the team breaks with 13 position players, then you have Lowrie, Norris, Young as 3 spots locked in...Presumably perhaps a Rosales gets that 13th spot. Or maybe someone like Peterson because he has played well and can play 1B and OF...Maybe one of the other middle infielders competing gets the last spot....Hard to say but right now I dont know who the alternative guy is at 1B....No bad start or slumps for Moss because he is out there on his lonesome it appears...
This is the argument for keeping Daric Barton.
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Posted: 03/18/2013 12:18 PM

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I was thinking Barton too...

Edit: but I was afraid to say it on the board for fear of..well - you know.

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Posted: 03/18/2013 1:20 PM

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Jed Lowrie is the backup 1B.  And that's perfectly fine moving forward.  Pretty sure Sogard could do it too.  Dunno if he ever has, but it's easy, tell 'em Wash!
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Posted: 03/18/2013 4:51 PM

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AthertonA wrote:
RevZekeVodka wrote:
oaklady wrote:
APlus100 wrote: From today's ST game vs. Cubs....between Sogard, Rosales, Weeks, Parrino, and Sizemore, they are 10 for 11 between them.(Sizemore the only one to record an out, but does have a double). Rosales has a pair of 2-run homes. It's going to be real hard to cut any of them although it will have to happen...and soon. Who goes, who stays?

All of them are outcompeting Nakajima right now but you know he's going to be on the team and probably starting. Same with Lowrie (although he's having a good spring).

Tough decisions.
It is certainly tightening up, isn't it?  The other guy I like the looks of is Shane Peterson, though  being an outfielder, not really any chance there will be a spot for him, but would like to see more of him.  Not sure, but did I hear he has played some first base, as well?

Even though its just spring training oaklady, it is indeed hard not to be impressed by Shane Peterson. Hitting the heck out of the ball, looks like an excellent eye and discipline as well. Has looked quite steady defensively in the OF and yes he does play some 1B, which probably helps him and brings up a question that I have...

Who is this teams back-up 1B on the 25 man? If Brandon Moss gets hit by a pitch in the first week and misses a few games,  who is the guy that steps in for him off the 25 man? Cause im having a hard time seeing who that might be myself...I think Lowrie will be busy at 2B, SS especially and 3B...If the team breaks with 13 position players, then you have Lowrie, Norris, Young as 3 spots locked in...Presumably perhaps a Rosales gets that 13th spot. Or maybe someone like Peterson because he has played well and can play 1B and OF...Maybe one of the other middle infielders competing gets the last spot....Hard to say but right now I dont know who the alternative guy is at 1B....No bad start or slumps for Moss because he is out there on his lonesome it appears...
This is the argument for keeping Daric Barton.

Isn't it equally an argument for keeping Rosales instead of Barton?  He's also out of options and has played first base before while neither Sogard nor Parrino have (the latter is speculation but I'll be shocked if I'm wrong).  I'd guess he's about as good as Barton there, with decent mobility and a big frame, and has looked decent in the snippets I've seen.  This would then give room for another UTIF up the middle.


I actually just checked Rosales' UZR/150 at 1B, and it's -9.2 in a small sample (under 200 innings).  I wonder if it's Barton's ability to scoop throws that sets him apart from just sticking another infielder there who should be able to move and field grounders as well or better.

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Posted: 03/18/2013 5:00 PM

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For a while I've had this strange feeling that Daric Barton was going to turn a corner.  I remember he got some hits off Verlander in a game and I feel like he did pretty good in his September call up during the stretch run.  Then he was talking about this new approach, being more aggressive.  And it made me feel like hmm maybe something is going to click and he'll get back to 2010 Daric Barton.  I just had this vision of him tearing up Spring Training and making it tough to cut him.  Dude's hitting .217.  I'm starting to feel more confident he is not able to hit major league pitching.
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Posted: 03/18/2013 6:13 PM

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Barton has not gotten a hit in eight games, seems to be in mid-season form for him.
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Posted: 03/18/2013 11:35 PM

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i dont think they fully release barton, the front office i bet still has hope in him. sogard and rosales have had nice springs. but spring performance can be misleading too. sogard hit great last spring, along with cowgill and injuries, performance hurt them in 2012.

i actually do like sogard. he's worked to add defensive versatility and has hit well in minors overall. at the mlb level, he seems to be like weeks and have a long uppercut swing. id say rosales and parrino are probably their best SS defenders on the 40 man roster, but their bats are probably holding them back from being more than utility types. Maybe we get lucky and organizational filler like josh horton, dusty coleman, tyler ladendorf can breakthrough
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