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Keith Law Top 100

Posted: 02/05/2013 9:39 AM

Keith Law Top 100 


http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb...ylan-bundy-more

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nsider article.... and only saw 1 Athletic making the list, but Addison Russell sitting #10 in all of baseball on his list.  Awesome someone finally put him there.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 9:48 AM

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One "rivalry" I'll be watching is Matt Barnes vs Sonny Gray. Picked within 1 pick of each other, Barnes is 7 months younger but still yet to progress ahead of A ball and is a staple across all top 100 lists. Sonny Gray meanwhile has made it all the way to AAA at virtually the same age and isn't on anyone's top 100. Barnes' numbers are considerably better, but he's also faced significantly worse competition.

Barnes' frame appears to be more projectable and I've read his height allows him to get a better plane on his fastball than Sonny. So really the ranking is all about projection, but it's something I'll be watching closely to see how their careers compare.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 10:02 AM

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i thought Law hated the A's?

Also, Gray is a reliever, and a non prospect at this point.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 10:25 AM

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zitoforpres wrote: i thought Law hated the A's?

Also, Gray is a reliever, and a non prospect at this point.
Funny... Law doesn't agree.  Has him just outside the top 100.

"Sonny Gray, RHP

Age: 23
Top 2012 level: AAA (Sacramento)
Key stat: 0.5 HR/9

Like Grossman, Gray dropped off the top 100 this year because of questions about his ceiling. The A's worked with Gray on taking a little off his fastball, which would sit in the mid-90s but lacked sink or life, so he could generate more ground balls, which he did, but the tradeoff was that he missed a lot fewer bats, striking out fewer than six per nine inning in 2012.

He'll also need to keep working on that changeup to be more effective against left-handed hitters. He has the athleticism and makeup to start, and can hold his velocity, but has to miss more bats or he'll end up a (very good) reliever instead."

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb...sed-top-100-mlb

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Posted: 02/05/2013 10:34 AM

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Law's always been big on Gray going back to the draft. He's doing nothing during his minor league career to warrant legit prospect status, and he will probably end up being a reliever who only pitches to righties.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 12:41 PM

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Law just said he talked to a few people that would have had Russell at 1-1 in a redraft.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 12:54 PM

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zitoforpres wrote: Law's always been big on Gray going back to the draft. He's doing nothing during his minor league career to warrant legit prospect status, and he will probably end up being a reliever who only pitches to righties.
I'd say that's his floor.  A player who is 22, starting in AAA with a floor as a major leaguer with a legit strength warrants prospect status.  

I'd say Gray putting up mediocre results vs older competition is slightly more impressive than dominating younger competition like Barnes is doing.  

Of course if the term "prospect" is only to be used for #1/#2 starters then I guess he does not warrant that title.  Plenty of extremely useful, effective, and valuable players don't fit that label though.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 1:58 PM

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keith law can be wrong but at least nice to see

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46997
Joe (Minneapolis)


I think you are giving over-reacting to Addison Russell's strong performance in the lower minors after the draft. You have him 12 spots higher than Byron Buxton a player you had at the top of the draft. He has good speed but his K% was a bit high.

Klaw
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Begging the question. Russell's ranking isn't a reflection of his pro performance - Buxton hit pretty well in pro ball too. Russell's ranking is a reflection of how much more likely he seems now to be able to stay at short, and how advanced his overall approach was in pro ball. I heard from more than one source that, in a redraft today, Russell would be the top guy. Having seen Russell myself in July, I'm buying it.


Go out on a limb - who are your top 3-5 prospects next year

Klaw
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I'd just move up whoever hasn't graduated from the list - Yelich, Bogaerts, Lindor, Russell, Walker.

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Posted: 02/05/2013 2:25 PM

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Wow...that's what I'm talking about.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 2:42 PM

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Team officials and coaches are generally high on their own players, but I can honestly say that I have never heard A's brass as excited about a player as they are about Russell. He exceeded their expectations in every situation they placed him in.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 3:12 PM

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A's draft history of 1st rd picks since the late 90's have been disappointing, hopefully russell changes that.

99- zito
02- swisher, maybe blanton who was decent

i still have outside hopes for weeks, green, choice, and gray. i guess simmons might have a shot as a long/middle reliever

http://espn.go.com/mlb/draft/history/_/team/oak
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Posted: 02/05/2013 3:28 PM

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I think Weeks is garbage and have since the day he was drafted. Speed guys, who aren't even good at stealing, have no power stick and a mediocre glove are not rare players. Felt the same with Pennington at the time.  

Choice - seems like a decent pick and there is still time for him to be an impact bat. 

Green - didn't like this pick either. There was a reason his stock dropped before the draft. 

Gray - solid pick. Again, still time for him. 

Of course I don't really have a plan for who I would've picked instead, simply stating my thoughts on our last few draft choices.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 4:01 PM

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zitoforpres wrote: i thought Law hated the A's?

Also, Gray is a reliever, and a non prospect at this point.


Funny that Law hates the A's, and he's the one prospect guy whose word you consider gospel.

 

Except that he likes Gray, so you have to disagree with him there.

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Posted: 02/05/2013 7:19 PM

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let's hope this keeps the A's from taking boring, safe first round college guys.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 7:36 PM

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zitoforpres wrote: let's hope this keeps the A's from taking boring, safe first round college guys.
Agree. Billy and staff have done a pretty solid job spotting the high school talent over the years, but shied away from drafting it early. Odd that before Russell, Chavez was the last high school hitter drafted in the 1st round by the A's.

I think Billy had a change of draft philosophy after passing on Trout. Glad to have Fuson back. Looking like a great pick in Russell so far, love the 2012 draft.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 8:03 PM

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Absolutely loved last year's draft and taking three high ceiling HS picks in the first round. I don't mind the "safe" college picks after about Round 3. As far as Gray is concerned, he has made it to AAA in less than two years and had a more than decent second half of the season last year. No reason to consider him a non-prospect at this early juncture.
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Posted: 02/05/2013 8:15 PM

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he didn't really do much to deserve the promotion.
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Posted: 02/06/2013 4:56 AM

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BanditoB wrote:
zitoforpres wrote: let's hope this keeps the A's from taking boring, safe first round college guys.
Agree. Billy and staff have done a pretty solid job spotting the high school talent over the years, but shied away from drafting it early. Odd that before Russell, Chavez was the last high school hitter drafted in the 1st round by the A's.

I think Billy had a change of draft philosophy after passing on Trout. Glad to have Fuson back. Looking like a great pick in Russell so far, love the 2012 draft.
They always scouted HSers, remember when Beane had a boner for Lastings Milledge, lol. Seems like billion years ago. They prefer safety of the college pick, but that's probably changing now because college baseball is weaker than it ever was in last 20 years. MLB teams simply destroyed college recruiting under the old draft system, especially in the last few years. I remember watching Stanford v. ASU game circa 2005 both teams were loaded with future major leaguers and caliber of play was on par with high minor leagues. Maybe by 2015 Division I bounces back but now the college ranks are thin because talent went pro after high school under the old unlimited bonus system.

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Posted: 02/06/2013 11:53 AM

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anyone have the rest of law's top 5?
obviously Russell #1.
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