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Mike Morse?

Posted: 01/08/2013 10:14 AM

Mike Morse? 


Nats looking for a lefty reliever+pitching depth.

Blevins+AAA arm for Morse?

Put Morse at 1b, DH Carter. That's a pretty decent offense right there.


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Posted: 01/08/2013 11:39 AM

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According to baseball Reference Morse has put up a 133, 147 and 112 OPS+ in his 28, 29, and 30 year old seasons, respectively.   Prior to that he put up decent numbers in very limited at bats with Washington and Seattle.

After failing in Pittsburgh in his first extend trial, Moss put up a 160 OPS+ in his age 28 season in Oakland.

I think Morse is more of a sure thing at this point and, in fact, there is a real chance of seeing moss on the north side of baseball bats in Oakland.  However, I really want to see Moss given a chance.  He became my favorite player last year for his "living the dream" attitude.  Moss has stuck with his dream for a while.  As a fan, I want to see him given a clear path to take the first base job.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 11:50 AM

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you could also platoon young/moss in the OF, put Ces or Reddick in CF while Moss is in the OF.

vs. RHP:
Moss LF
Ces CF
Morse 1b
Carter DH
Reddick RF
Norris C
Donaldson 3b
Weeks 2b
Nakajima SS

vs. LHP
Young CF
Sizemore 2b
Cespedes LF
Carter DH
Morse 1b
Norris C
Donaldson 3b
Reddick RF
Nakajima SS
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Posted: 01/08/2013 11:52 AM

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I've thought about Morse as well. But he's a FA at the end of the season and Moss absolutely lit up the ball last year. He may still turn into a pumpkin but he was outstanding last year and should be given the opportunity to prove he belongs. Especially considering he's cost controlled for another 4 seasons.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 12:28 PM

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Good hitter, not a fit on this roster.

Last edited 01/08/2013 12:29 PM by jaylandsman

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Posted: 01/08/2013 12:42 PM

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They could take him for 1B if they trade an OF for a 2B and jettison Moss, Carter, and/or Weeks.  That seems like a longshot though.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 1:04 PM

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Posted: 01/08/2013 1:06 PM

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Whew... for a moment there, I thought this said "Mike Moore"...

NOOOO!!!!!! mad

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Posted: 01/08/2013 1:20 PM

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If they are looking for LH relief, the A's have the best batch in baseball. I would think the A's would rather move Blackley and his versatility might have more value. Figueroa would also be an option.

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 1:45 PM

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DaaronB wrote:

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
That would suck. Pretty excited about seeing Young in Green and Gold, as I was Edwin Encarnacion. We got a super talented player for pennies on the dollar, why would we trade him while his value is still at a low?

Young is likely an upgrade over Crisp in CF. Considering Young, Cespedes, and Crisp all have some durability concerns, I think it could make sense to use the DH slot for all 3 of these guys to help keep them fresh.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 1:55 PM

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BanditoB wrote:
DaaronB wrote:

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
That would suck. Pretty excited about seeing Young in Green and Gold, as I was Edwin Encarnacion. We got a super talented player for pennies on the dollar, why would we trade him while his value is still at a low?

Young is likely an upgrade over Crisp in CF. Considering Young, Cespedes, and Crisp all have some durability concerns, I think it could make sense to use the DH slot for all 3 of these guys to help keep them fresh.
Mostly this....

and people continue to look at the OF situation as 5 guys for 3 spots...it's not, it's seven guys for 5 spots...Carter, Moss, Ces, Reddick, Young, CC and Smith for OF DH and 1B spots...IF all were to stay healthy there's still going to be playing time for all....worse case they all do well and Smith plays twice a week....versatility and depth is good

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Posted: 01/08/2013 2:11 PM

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speedandpower wrote:
BanditoB wrote:
DaaronB wrote:

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
That would suck. Pretty excited about seeing Young in Green and Gold, as I was Edwin Encarnacion. We got a super talented player for pennies on the dollar, why would we trade him while his value is still at a low?

Young is likely an upgrade over Crisp in CF. Considering Young, Cespedes, and Crisp all have some durability concerns, I think it could make sense to use the DH slot for all 3 of these guys to help keep them fresh.
Mostly this....

and people continue to look at the OF situation as 5 guys for 3 spots...it's not, it's seven guys for 5 spots...Carter, Moss, Ces, Reddick, Young, CC and Smith for OF DH and 1B spots...IF all were to stay healthy there's still going to be playing time for all....worse case they all do well and Smith plays twice a week....versatility and depth is good
Smith is the only guy I have troubles finding a place to pencil in, but he's insurance we might need. All it takes is injury or regression from one of Reddick, Moss, or Carter for Smith to find more consistent PT. One could argue that Smith is a safer bet than any of those 3, certainly Moss or Carter.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 3:40 PM

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BanditoB wrote:
speedandpower wrote:
BanditoB wrote:
DaaronB wrote:

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
That would suck. Pretty excited about seeing Young in Green and Gold, as I was Edwin Encarnacion. We got a super talented player for pennies on the dollar, why would we trade him while his value is still at a low?

Young is likely an upgrade over Crisp in CF. Considering Young, Cespedes, and Crisp all have some durability concerns, I think it could make sense to use the DH slot for all 3 of these guys to help keep them fresh.
Mostly this....

and people continue to look at the OF situation as 5 guys for 3 spots...it's not, it's seven guys for 5 spots...Carter, Moss, Ces, Reddick, Young, CC and Smith for OF DH and 1B spots...IF all were to stay healthy there's still going to be playing time for all....worse case they all do well and Smith plays twice a week....versatility and depth is good
Smith is the only guy I have troubles finding a place to pencil in, but he's insurance we might need. All it takes is injury or regression from one of Reddick, Moss, or Carter for Smith to find more consistent PT. One could argue that Smith is a safer bet than any of those 3, certainly Moss or Carter.
In general, Morse is just a bad fit since he replicates everything Moss does for the A's for more money, and costs prospects/talent in return.  If Moss can produce similarly, he's one of the best values in baseball.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 5:17 PM

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BanditoB wrote:
speedandpower wrote:
BanditoB wrote:
DaaronB wrote:

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
That would suck. Pretty excited about seeing Young in Green and Gold, as I was Edwin Encarnacion. We got a super talented player for pennies on the dollar, why would we trade him while his value is still at a low?

Young is likely an upgrade over Crisp in CF. Considering Young, Cespedes, and Crisp all have some durability concerns, I think it could make sense to use the DH slot for all 3 of these guys to help keep them fresh.
Mostly this....

and people continue to look at the OF situation as 5 guys for 3 spots...it's not, it's seven guys for 5 spots...Carter, Moss, Ces, Reddick, Young, CC and Smith for OF DH and 1B spots...IF all were to stay healthy there's still going to be playing time for all....worse case they all do well and Smith plays twice a week....versatility and depth is good
Smith is the only guy I have troubles finding a place to pencil in, but he's insurance we might need. All it takes is injury or regression from one of Reddick, Moss, or Carter for Smith to find more consistent PT. One could argue that Smith is a safer bet than any of those 3, certainly Moss or Carter.

Smith is the perfect guy to have in this scenario...he'll still produce reasonably well when coming off the bench, PH, platoon etc....all too often I see other players, in Oakland usually, younger or new to the bigs type players put in the Smith role and quite frankly it only works for some...Smith has shown he can do it

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Posted: 01/08/2013 7:00 PM

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I think it makes sense to pick him up if the Nats would only want one of the A's lefty relievers. There really is no place Figueroa or Blackley and if you can pick up good player that has more value then it can benefit other trades.
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Posted: 01/08/2013 10:26 PM

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BanditoB wrote:
DaaronB wrote:

I think Young is trade bait and Billy is waiting for the best fit.
That would suck. Pretty excited about seeing Young in Green and Gold, as I was Edwin Encarnacion. We got a super talented player for pennies on the dollar, why would we trade him while his value is still at a low?

Young is likely an upgrade over Crisp in CF. Considering Young, Cespedes, and Crisp all have some durability concerns, I think it could make sense to use the DH slot for all 3 of these guys to help keep them fresh.
You mean we got a super talented player for "Penny" on the dollar, as in Uncle Cliffy. Good pun, Bandito.

I agree with you...have always liked Young and pleased to see him in Oakland. I think he will do very well for the A's.
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Posted: 01/09/2013 2:38 AM

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DaaronB wrote: I think it makes sense to pick him up if the Nats would only want one of the A's lefty relievers. There really is no place Figueroa or Blackley and if you can pick up good player that has more value then it can benefit other trades.
There's no place for Blackley? He's our starting rotation's last line of defense... who's on the depth chart after Blackley... Peacock? Gray? What happens if Colon implodes and Straily doesn't figure it out? If Griffin/Milone can't repeat or Parker/Anderson re-injure themselves?
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Posted: 01/09/2013 6:30 AM

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Agreed ...Blackley is in a similar role to Smith...having them out there day in and day out isn't the best idea...using them on an as needed basis with stints of regular play is the role they need to be in

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Posted: 01/09/2013 10:09 AM

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I'm not even sure that Blackley makes the team. He really struggled down the stretch when the competition was amped up and, as mentioned, the A's are deep in lefty relievers. Between Doolittle, Norberto, Blevins, and Figueroa the A's are pretty stacked with LH relievers. If they need to create room on the 40 man, Blackley's spot is definitely in jeopardy.
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Posted: 01/09/2013 10:28 AM

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I think Blackley is safe because the A's need starting pitching depth. The A's are not that deep:

Anderson
Parker
Colon
Griffin
Milone
Straily
Blackley
Werner, Peacock, Gray

It's extremely improbable that a team can make it the whole year with just 6 starters, few teams do. If you subtract Blackley, you're really going to have to trust that one of Werner, Peacock, and Gray emerges next season.
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