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Gavin Floyd?

Posted: 12/21/2012 8:22 PM

Gavin Floyd? 


https://twitter.com/DKnobler/status/28227165482085 1712

White Sox looking for LH hitters.

why not:

Floyd+Cash for Smith and low level prospect?
I think Floyd could be very good in the A's home stadium

Anderson
Parker
Floyd
Straily/Colon/grifin/milone

2 of those 4 in last 2 pitching spots.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:33 PM

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I would tend to agree but I bet they would want a smidge more. SP is most precious commodity
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:46 PM

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i should have noted floyd has one year left on his contract.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:30 PM

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I'd love that deal... Though I'd have loved it a lot more before Cowgill was dealt.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 3:44 AM

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Umm...Floyd isn't any good. 

Secondly, he isn't better than anyone in our rotation to qualify as a replacement. 

Where do you come up with this stuff? Cespedes for Stanton....the list goes on. Now I remember why I ignored you.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 4:22 AM

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Its fantasy..why the negative energy...just cause youre not in agreement just move on.like your momma said..if you dont have anything nice to say..say nothing at all...Happy holidays,peace on earth and good will to men!
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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:05 AM

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jclay09 wrote: I'd love that deal... Though I'd have loved it a lot more before Cowgill was dealt.
A's have a ton of OF depth, that's not an issue at all. A's could call up Choice or Taylor if need be.

If you put him in the A's stadium, he could throw up a 3.20ISH ERA with K's. the HRs have hurt him in that stadium, but he has good stuff.

With Colon a huge question mark, and the inevitable regression of milone and griffin, added to Anderson's durability issues, trading for Gavin Floyd( and probably getting a pick for him next year) would be a great decision by Mr. Beane.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:41 AM

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zitoforpres wrote: ... the inevitable regression of milone and griffin...
Really? Have you considered that they both might be good? I predict we'll get out of them what we got last year or slightly better. I think with Griffin, it's likely that we might get a lot better.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:42 AM

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You have to admit, it's a cool name... wink
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Posted: 12/22/2012 8:59 AM

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Yeah, I agree that it's way too early to write off Griffin and Milone.  We may see some regression, but I think Tom Milone is capable of having a Jamie Moyer type of career. He'll give you innings, keep you in the game, and provide a solid #3/4 starter.  As for Griffin, time will tell if he's the real deal.  He certainly looked impressive last year between the minors and majors.  

I like Seth Smith.  I think he did a fine job in a platoon role.  To keep depth, I'd like to see him stay.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 9:26 AM

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Floyd's numbers aren't very special, and he makes a lot of money for average numbers.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 9:29 AM

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floyd pitches in a very tough home park. before 2012, he was good for 180 + innings with an era in the low 4's in his previous several yrs. That probably gets him 8-10 mill/yr on free agent market. He's more valuable than a platoon hitter in smith. unless white sox are desperate to dump him doubt theyd want that deal
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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:00 AM

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Because its a dumb thread without any thought. His era+ is 100 and that's park adjusted. Colon put up a 120. Floyd's are easy to find but you want to trade assets for a pitcher in his last year, who's pricey, and isn't better than our projected 6 guys on the depth chart. I'd expect this on an espn forum, not here. Zfp needs to get more sun. I know it's the offseason but come on.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:23 AM

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zitoforpres wrote: i should have...left.

You did.  The problem is that you came back.
So bring your good times and your laughter too
We're gonna celebrate and party with you
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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:27 AM

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Stepping outside of the " i only follow the A's, and think their players are awesome and every other team's players suck" little bubble some live in for a minute...

.....Actually, Floyd's elbow was hurt last year.

No reason to think Floyd couldn't be a 3.5-4.0 WAR guy pitching in the A's stadium if his issue is behind him.
Of course, the most venomous posts come from people who think millone is a good pitcher.

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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:38 AM

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Choice isn't ready, and Taylor is barely a major league player, if at all.  Definitely a major dropoff from Smith or Cowgill.  Plus Cowgill's versatility would be a huge plus as a 5th OF. 

Point is though, I'd still be for it.  Floyd's walk rate spiked last year higher than it's been in any season with the WhiteSox.  He's been about a 4 win pitcher the past 3 seasons with a xFIP under 4 and a 200 IP workhorse.  For comparison sake, that's about what Parker gave the A's last year. 

As you mentioned, the A's have a lot of unknown in their rotation with Colon being in his age 40 season (and likely no juice), Anderson's injury history, and Griffin/Milone/Straily holding up the back end of the rotation.  I don't think it would be a bad thing to have a sure thing holding up the back of their rotation and have Griffin and Straily battle it out for the 5th starter spot.  If any injuries pop up, I'd rather have one of them be the first man up than Peacock/Gray.  Especially if the cost is only the A's 5th OF.

zitoforpres wrote:
jclay09 wrote: I'd love that deal... Though I'd have loved it a lot more before Cowgill was dealt.
A's have a ton of OF depth, that's not an issue at all. A's could call up Choice or Taylor if need be.

If you put him in the A's stadium, he could throw up a 3.20ISH ERA with K's. the HRs have hurt him in that stadium, but he has good stuff.

With Colon a huge question mark, and the inevitable regression of milone and griffin, added to Anderson's durability issues, trading for Gavin Floyd( and probably getting a pick for him next year) would be a great decision by Mr. Beane.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 11:50 AM

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The only thing Taylor can't do that Cowgill did was play CF. Cowgill can't hit righties, doesn't walk, and has no power.
Cowgill didn't outhit Taylor at AAA this year.
Getting rid of Smith also almost the A's to play Carter and Moss everyday as well, as both are better hitters than Smith.

As you pointed out Floyd has been very good the past few years, and was hurt this year. Getting a guy who could be a solid #3, and potentially adding a pick for him next year if you make him a qualifying offer after the 2013 season would really boost this team.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 5:49 PM

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Hey Moderators,
how long are you going to let the same person who cowardly and immaturely attempts to be an internet bully continue to verbal assault me?
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Posted: 12/22/2012 6:35 PM

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The A's don't have the payroll for Floyd even if they trade Smith. There's zero chance of this happening.
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Posted: 12/22/2012 6:57 PM

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zitoforpres wrote: Hey Moderators,
how long are you going to let the same person who cowardly and immaturely attempts to be an internet bully continue to verbal assault me?

WIMP....  DISH IT OUT BUT CANNOT TAKE IT IN RETURN.
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