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Nick Gordon, First Pick, 5th overall

Posted: 6/5/2014 6:43 PM

Nick Gordon, First Pick, 5th overall 


It's official.  Nick Gordon is a Twin.  Strong blood lines.  6' 2".  Scouted to be able to stick at shortstop.  At least 5 years away but shortstop of the future is in the fold.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 10:49 PM

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Yeah, Tom Gordon's son and Dee's brother...

We select another "Nick" with our 46th pick:  Pitcher Nick Burdi from Louisville.

Taking a quick look at his stats:  Only 28 IP, but 58 K's (can this be right??) - On paper, the guy's stuff must be absolutely electric and opponents hit only .125 against him.

Last edited 6/5/2014 11:38 PM by brian450

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Posted: 6/6/2014 7:31 AM

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If Sano, Rosario and Gordon all live up to expectations, the Twins could end up having one hell of an infield a few years from now.

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Posted: 6/6/2014 7:50 AM

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Big 'IF' however. So MANY times these hotshot prospects that everyone annoints as the 'team of the future' just flat out don't deliver..for a multitude of reasons. I recall back in 1997-98 the Red Wings had this so-called million dollar infield that was going to stand Orioles fans on their ear. It was anchored by the immortal Cal Pickering and Ryan Minor. The middle guys were so forgettable, I forgot who they were. Anyway, Pickering, a hulking 1st baseman was never in game shape long enough to matter and he never lived up to the hype. Minor was a flop journeyman whose claim to fame was replacing Cal Ripken the night Cal called off his streak in 1998. Interestingly Pickering was in the O's lineup that night as well.

Anyway...these kids come and go. They play, they get hurt, they do well, they do poorly. I count nothing until I see them everyday in a major league uni, playing well. For me, if even one out of 10 of these can't miss prospects actually make it, its a bonus.

Color me cynical. As former Expos fans...we know the drill. They had one of the best farm systems in all of baseball. Some made it...others just disappeared. And the Expos were better at it than most.

Last edited 6/6/2014 7:51 AM by insagt1

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Posted: 6/6/2014 8:25 AM

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brian450 wrote:

We select another "Nick" with our 46th pick:  Pitcher Nick Burdi from Louisville.

Taking a quick look at his stats:  Only 28 IP, but 58 K's (can this be right??) - On paper, the guy's stuff must be absolutely electric and opponents hit only .125 against him.
Here is some more information on this guy:

"Burdi, who has a fastball that hits triple digits and a slider that can reach the low 90s, projects as a potential future closer at the major league level. He posted a 0.54 ERA with 57 strikeouts and nine walks in 32 1/3 innings this season at Louisville."

A fastball that hits triple digits and a slider that can reach the low 90s?!?!?  When was the last time the Twins had a guy in their system who could throw with that type of velocity?  Given the Twins' track record of developing young pitchers though, why do I get the sense we will be reading about this guy experiencing arm problems, being told by the Twins to just "rest his arm" and then having to get Tommy John surgery a year later?

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Posted: 6/6/2014 12:33 PM

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There was a piece in the USA Today awhile back that chronicled the increasing number of TJ surgeries...and most of them among the very young players. Maybe there IS some wisdom of bringing young pitchers up sooner, before they 'use up' too many pitches in their arm. It has been said that each arm contains a 'finite number of pitches' and then, thats it.Hard to find a lot of fault with that thinking...at least in recent years.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 5:49 PM

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insagt1 wrote: There was a piece in the USA Today awhile back that chronicled the increasing number of TJ surgeries...and most of them among the very young players.
I know you're aware of this, but TJ surgery is quite often sought, when it's not always necessary. 

It's become the preferred choice and elective among very young guys, as quite often guys come back with more velocity (much of this is due to the extensive rehab btw, not the procedure itself) and less likely to injure in the future. 

It's commonplace and the norm now...
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Posted: 6/6/2014 6:09 PM

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TwinsFaninVT wrote:

A fastball that hits triple digits and a slider that can reach the low 90s?!?!?  When was the last time the Twins had a guy in their system who could throw with that type of velocity?  Given the Twins' track record of developing young pitchers though, why do I get the sense we will be reading about this guy experiencing arm problems, being told by the Twins to just "rest his arm" and then having to get Tommy John surgery a year later?
Travis Bowyer - one of the guys we gave to Miami in the Luis Castillo trade back in '07. 

Miami immediately tabbed Bowyer their 'closer of the future' which we all know now proved to be the kiss of death, as Bowyer suffered what turned out to be a career ending shoulder injury and disappeared into the sunset... like so many other 'can't miss' guys.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 8:06 PM

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brian450 wrote:
insagt1 wrote: There was a piece in the USA Today awhile back that chronicled the increasing number of TJ surgeries...and most of them among the very young players.
I know you're aware of this, but TJ surgery is quite often sought, when it's not always necessary. 

It's become the preferred choice and elective among very young guys, as quite often guys come back with more velocity (much of this is due to the extensive rehab btw, not the procedure itself) and less likely to injure in the future. 

It's commonplace and the norm now...
I think that is true, but the problem is that the Twins have taken this approach where they seem to encourage their young guys to "rest" for an extended period of time before deciding to pull the trigger on TJ surgery.  The end result is that they miss even more time than they would have if they had just had it done sooner.  Case in point: Sano.

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Posted: 6/6/2014 10:24 PM

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Sorry, I should have said 'anywhere else outside of our organization.'  We're the exception to the rule...
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Posted: 6/9/2014 12:23 PM

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TwinsFaninVT wrote: If Sano, Rosario and Gordon all live up to expectations, the Twins could end up having one hell of an infield a few years from now.

Don't sell Santana short.  He's only hitting .350 so far.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 1:00 PM

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Santana is being groomed for CF right now, not the infield....as they appear to be selling Hicks short at the moment...which is a good thing. He needs time in AAA and it should happen sooner than later.
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