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Twins Record

Posted: 1/17/2013 9:23 PM

Twins Record 


    What will be the record of our beloved Twins?

  1. Poll closed on 01/24/2013
  2. Above .500: 0 votes
  3. .500: 1 vote
  4. Below .500: 4 votes
  5. In the basement: 2 votes
  6. In the earth's crust: 0 votes
  7. They'll be on a journey to the center of the earth: 0 votes
  8. Bad enough that Gardy gets canned: 0 votes
  9. Bad enough that Gardy and Ryan get canned: 1 vote
  10. Bad enough that they completely clean house: 0 votes
 Meyer and May will be top of the rotation starters by 2015. 
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Posted: 1/18/2013 9:59 PM

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Below .500. Terry Ryan won't be canned....but Gardy's contract won't be renewed..not fired...just not brought back with any extension.
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Posted: 1/18/2013 10:48 PM

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viperdk wrote: Below .500. Terry Ryan won't be canned....but Gardy's contract won't be renewed..not fired...just not brought back with any extension.
just not brought back (period). 

Last year of contract - services won't be retained.  Same thing as being fired...
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Posted: 1/18/2013 11:03 PM

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Sounds better if the Twins don't "fire" him and just let him go...
 Meyer and May will be top of the rotation starters by 2015. 
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Posted: 1/23/2013 2:12 PM

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Being fired means you still have time left on your contract. Gardy's contract runs out, he's free to go anywhere else.

big difference between firing the person, and letting them move on to explore other options.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 5:27 PM

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Yes, it's a difference of 9 months.   

1.  Not re-hired means we don't see him as competent enough to keep the job and make progress as an organization.  We recognize his past contribution and allow him to save face and work to the end of his contract, which is less than year away.  This is the "Twin's way."  

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2.  Fired means we don't believe he's competent enough to be in this position, to have him lead and makes strides to improve our on-field performance and make a decision immediately to have him replaced. 

Option 1 means not only do we let Gardy save face, we have some time up our sleeves to explore best options and not make a rash decision (IF somehow Gardy inexplicably defies logic and turns this ship around, well gosh, he's surely worthy of an extension, but I see it as highly unlikely). 

With one of the above options likely, it appears his tenure will be ending here in Minnesota and there is no sugar-coating it.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 7:53 PM

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I'm not sure I see the point in keeping Gardy around for another season unless the intent is for him to

be grooming somebody on his staff to take over for him. I don't think there is anything he can accomplish

with his current team that will enable him to keep his job.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:14 PM

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Anyone here ever been fired?  What about resigning from a position?  When you fill out questionaire's regarding future employment, ever see a question about whether you've been fired, if so explain why?  It is very different.  In the real world, getting fired usually occurs for aggregious actions.  Not letting someone finish their contract is just bad business practice.  The Twins organization is a solid organization that functions on sound professional business practices.  Their loyalty to their employees is somewhat legendary.  Promoting from within fosters loyalty down in the ranks.  Of course, there are lots of ways to run a business, I just think this is how the Twins do things and I for one think it is a good practice.  I'll be curious to see how Steinbach as a bench coach changes some of Gardy's in game decisions.  Many former catchers make great major league managers.  Though Steinbach was probably brought in mostly to help Mauer manage a game better, I could see him as a potential future major league manager.  I also think they'll look long and hard at how Gene Glynn does at Rochester.  I'm pretty sure Molitor is no longer on the Twins short list or he'd be somewhere in the organization with this years shakeup.

It wasn't just the managerial ability that led us to 90+ losses, his talent pool and player injuries were also contributory.  Before everyone blames TR for the talent pool, there was a lot of talent, prospect recovery necessary after Bill Smith left.  IMHO, Ryan is doing a good job in this respect.  He's not going to buy the talent for a quick fix but rather trade away strength to fill needs.
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