Posted: 06/22/2008 11:23 AM
Posted: 06/22/2008 11:36 AM
I can buy into this.
On the Bobcats end, I'm sure they are concerned with Wallace's injury history. I noted in another thread that he has experienced a myriad of injuries in just the last 18 months, which includes his 4th concussion in 4 years. With Wallace having 5 years left on his deal, they may feel he is just too risky an investment. Plus the team has 3 SFs ready to take Wallace's place in Carroll, 2007 1st round pick Jared Dudley and then returning from injury, former #3 pick Adam Morrison. Odom would fit nicely into the lineup at PF alongside C Emeka Okafor, giving them a pair of strong rebounders. Plus Odom has an expiring deal, meaning big time cap relief (that could go towards the extension for Okafor). They could go big at #9 (say Brook Lopez) and groom him off the bench for this season, then let Odom leave as a FA next summer and start Okafor and Lopez at PF/C.On the Lakers end, Wallace is a very very good SF on both ends of the floor. Just 2 years ago he averaged 2 steals and 2 blocks a game. His offense has steadily improved and this past season he was a 19.4ppg 6rpg 3.5apg player. He plays solid D and continues to grow as a player. He fell in love with the 3 pointer this past season (and he is a mediocre 3pt shooter) so his FG% fell from 50%ish to 45%. Probably a result of his injuries preventing him from slashing as much. Also for his nice apg average, he is turnover prone as well. So he has his flaws. Injuries. 3pt shooting. Turnovers. But when you factor in his versatility (he's played SG, SF and PF - and actually spent more time at PF than SF this past season), his youth (26 in July), his improving offense, his stellar defense, it's easy to fall in love with him as a player. Plus the 5 years left on his deal is pretty manageable at about 10 mil per year. It's the same deal the Lakers were discussing for Odom. So really what this comes down to is that the Lakers are getting a fantastic player.... but are they willing to gamble on his health?
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I can see Charlotte packaging Nazr Mohammed with Wallace. The trade works for Odom with a 2 for 1 swap like this.
Why would Charlotte include him? For one, it adds to their potential cap relief. He is owed 13.2 mil after next season and trading him, and Wallace, for Odom's expiring deal washes that off the books. With Odom at PF and Okafor at C and potentially drafting a C like Lopez, there isn't a great need for Nazr, who was actually pretty decent in his time in Charlotte but was in and out of the starting lineup. Add in the return of Sean May plus youngsters like Ryan Hollins and Jermareo Davidson, and they have enough depth where they can move Nazr and just take the cap savings. Moving Nazr and Wallace cuts about 15 mil off their 09-10 payroll and puts the Bobcats in great position for cap space, even with Okafor's extension.The Lakers could take Nazr. He's a pretty good backup C with a lot of starting experience should injuries derail the team again. This past season he averaged 9.3ppg 6.9rpg 0.9bpg 52fg% in 61 games with the Bobcats. Getting him allows the team to make Mihm the 3rd string C and if they keep Turiaf, allow him to exclusively be a backup PF. Plus the Lakers won't have to use the MLE on a backup C and could use it on a SF like Posey if they still wanted to after acquiring Wallace.
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JBear1 wrote: Very interesting. I was listening to sportingnews satellite radio and they said there's a rumor going around that the Bobcats contacted the Lakers about Wallace for Odom. They didn't say what the Lakers response was, but this might have legs,
Posted: 06/22/2008 5:14 PM
DOAKLEY8 wrote: JBear1 wrote: Very interesting. I was listening to sportingnews satellite radio and they said there's a rumor going around that the Bobcats contacted the Lakers about Wallace for Odom. They didn't say what the Lakers response was, but this might have legs,wow i wasnt even going to comment this thread bc i wasnt buying any of it...but let the rumor fly..id take Wallace..but again like ive said..we will be hurtin on rebounds bad
Posted: 06/22/2008 5:34 PM
DOAKLEY8 wrote: wow i wasnt even going to comment this thread bc i wasnt buying any of it...but let the rumor fly..id take Wallace..but again like ive said..we will be hurtin on rebounds bad
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I'm not gonna get my hopes up on this one, I love Wallace he is one of those guys that plays hard for 48 minutes no matter what, but I don't think there is a chance in hell of this trade happening, Jordan loves the attitude, fire, and skills Wallace brings to the team, Odom could equal the skills, but not the attidude and fire. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Gerald Wallace coming to the Lakers.
Are we sure we want a player who is possibly one concussion away from career ending? I love what you are all saying about Wallace but damn I wouldn't us to bring in Wallace just to have him go down like a ticking time bomb. Btw, if we do agree to a trade I want Mitch and company to do a cat scan on his brain to see that this trade won't backfire in our face?
Last thing we need is to have another Chris Mihm type injury player who gets hit on the head and then sits out the whole season due to side affects and dizziness.
Posted: 06/22/2008 7:22 PM
DOAKLEY8 wrote: I agree with Bynum helping on the boards..but Odom is a greta defensive rebounder..and if traded it would be missed..and I i think with the mid-level a rebounder would have to be addressed. and like Phil said we need a head banger to come in to help. If we did do a Odom for Wallace or Odom for Jefferson or Odom for Artest..then I'm all for givin alot of the mid-level for ...yea i know..Kwame..he can help rebound and defend with the 2nd unit..which is all we need.
Posted: 06/22/2008 8:55 PM
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brickshooter wrote: Helmet, then put on RipHalmilton's mask. I'm very surprised to as Charlotte willing to depart with Wallace. Wonder who else they'd want to send over to match salaries.
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