The Dodgers made a two-year, $45 million offer to Ramirez in October. Boras, seeking a five-year deal, didn't reply to it. And the Dodgers withdrew the offer.

But Ramirez has apparently received no other offers, and Boras' people last talked to Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti early last week.

'Everyone knows we want to have Manny back. We've tried to make it very clear,' McCourt said. 'I certainly hope that message has been delivered to the player by now.'

As for the parameters of the offer, McCourt said, 'I always feel there's room for discussion.' "

If Boras has dragged this thing this far, I really wouldn't be surprised to see him drag it out all the way to the end of the WBC, especially if Manny is going to participate for the Dominican Republic. Where he could get into baseball form without having to report for ST. I guess his hope would be that some high profile LFer/DH gets hurt and then he could start some interest that way.

I have no problems with players hiring agents that will seek what is in their best interest; however, it is times like these that causes me to lose respect for people like Boras. Not because I am a Dodger fan, but because I operate under a completely different level of ethics and morals. It is one thing not to agree on terms, but it is a completely different issue when you don't even acknowledge a potential client. Quite frankly I'd rather have someone stipulate what they want and then end the conversation, but to arrogantly ignore and undermine the highest management level of an organization, is an action that most of us would find to be unacceptable out here in the real world. Boras needs to wake up and understand that his requests may be a bit unreasonable, but then again there have been owners who fall into his trap; i.e. the NYY and the BoSox. So at the end of the day, it is the fault of those very same owners that end up paying for these guys who are at the center stage of this process.    

There is my Manny rant of the day.

In a way I understand Boras/Manny's position. The Dodgers offered 2 years and they are looking for 5 years; however, I also understand the Dodgers, no one is coming near the 5 years, so why offer more?

The main problem here is that much like the real estate market, some homes are listed higher than they are worth; however, some owners are not pressed to make a sale. Now, this is where I understand Manny's and Boras position, if the Dodgers like the property and need the property, they are going to have to make an offer that is going to have to bring that owner, who is not in need of saling their property, to the table. However, offering market value is just not going to get it done. Now, the Dodgers may perceive that the owner is having a rough time holding on; the biggenst issue is that I think Manny is crazy enough to wait as long as it takes. In effort not to sell himself too short, it really wouldn't surprise me if goes a different route and ends up playing on a 1-year deal to the highest bidder. Posting huge numbers and then revisiting the FA market next season. The guy is talented enough to find success that way.  

This is why I believe that if the Dodgers wish to keep Manny "semi-happy" they need to make what some consider to be a serious offer, and that is a 3-year offer. I believe Manny will be chasing history by then. A 3 year deal may not be a bad thing IMO.    

Dodgfan wrote:

In a way I understand Boras/Manny's position. The Dodgers offered 2 years and they are looking for 5 years; however, I also understand the Dodgers, no one is coming near the 5 years, so why offer more?

 

The main problem here is that much like the real estate market, some homes are listed higher than they are worth; however, some owners are not pressed to make a sale. Now, this is where I understand Manny's and Boras position, if the Dodgers like the property and need the property, they are going to have to make an offer that is going to have to bring that owner, who is not in need of saling their property, to the table. However, offering market value is just not going to get it done. Now, the Dodgers may perceive that the owner is having a rough time holding on; the biggenst issue is that I think Manny is crazy enough to wait as long as it takes. In effort not to sell himself too short, it really wouldn't surprise me if goes a different route and ends up playing on a 1-year deal to the highest bidder. Posting huge numbers and then revisiting the FA market next season. The guy is talented enough to find success that way.  

 

This is why I believe that if the Dodgers wish to keep Manny "semi-happy" they need to make what some consider to be a serious offer, and that is a 3-year offer. I believe Manny will be chasing history by then. A 3 year deal may not be a bad thing IMO.    

Dodgfan wrote:

If Boras has dragged this thing this far, I really wouldn't be surprised to see him drag it out all the way to the end of the WBC, especially if Manny is going to participate for the Dominican Republic. Where he could get into baseball form without having to report for ST. I guess his hope would be that some high profile LFer/DH gets hurt and then he could start some interest that way.

 

I have no problems with players hiring agents that will seek what is in their best interest; however, it is times like these that causes me to lose respect for people like Boras. Not because I am a Dodger fan, but because I operate under a completely different level of ethics and morals. It is one thing not to agree on terms, but it is a completely different issue when you don't even acknowledge a potential client. Quite frankly I'd rather have someone stipulate what they want and then end the conversation, but to arrogantly ignore and undermine the highest management level of an organization, is an action that most of us would find to be unacceptable out here in the real world. Boras needs to wake up and understand that his requests may be a bit unreasonable, but then again there have been owners who fall into his trap; i.e. the NYY and the BoSox. So at the end of the day, it is the fault of those very same owners that end up paying for these guys who are at the center stage of this process.    

There is my Manny rant of the day.

caseyatbt wrote: The only worry I have is that Coletti gets tired of waiting and grabs Dunn or Abreu and the Giants being the only team left, get Manny for an even better deal.