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Karros on 2010 HOF Ballet ?

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Posted: 12/01/2009 5:40 PM

Karros on 2010 HOF Ballet ? 


Eric Karros: The longtime Dodger got off to a good start when he was named NL Rookie of the Year in 1992, and he wasn't too shabby thereafter. In his 14-year career, Karros hit .268 with 284 home runs and 1,027 RBIs while winning a Silver Slugger in 1995. That year, Karros batted .298 with 32 homers and 105 RBIs. And from 1995-97, he compiled 97 homers and drove in 320 runs. Karros put up pretty consistent numbers in 12 years in Los Angeles, with his finest season coming in '99, when he hit a career-high .304 with 34 homers and a career-high 112 RBIs.

 

By Alden Gonzalez / MLB.com

11/27/09 2:00 PM EST

They're not the headliners.

They're the ones who may have been overlooked because of the teams they played on, the markets they represented or the roles they had. The ones who might have missed a few more good years because of injuries. Or the ones who were simply beaten out on hardware by premier players in their respective leagues.

They're solid corner infielders like Eric Karros, David Segui, Todd Zeile and Robin Ventura; steady right-handers like Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson,, Kevin Appier and Shane Reynolds; and five-tool outfielders like Ellis Burks and Ray Lankford.

And the National Baseball Hall of Fame can come calling for them, too.

A candidate must receive 75 percent of the vote from the Baseball Writers' Association of America members to gain election to the Hall in Cooperstown, N.Y., with leadoff great Rickey Henderson and former Red Sox slugger Jim Rice reaching that threshold to gain entrance in 2009.

Results of the election will be announced on Wednesday, Jan. 6.

Former Expos and Cubs outfielder Andre Dawson (67.0 percent) and former Twins ace Bert Blyleven (62.7 percent) had the highest totals among those not elected in the 2009 voting and remain eligible for '10. They're joined on the ballot this year by a group of newcomers that includes former All-Star second baseman Roberto Alomar, Reds superstar shortstop Barry Larkin and Mariners designated hitter Edgar Martinez.

But while those guys will garner most of the attention, here are some of the others who will receive consideration:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl...artnerId=rss_la

 

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Posted: 12/01/2009 6:52 PM

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no way he makes the hall. none.

 

 

how many A.S. appearances does Karros have? how many rings?


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Posted: 12/01/2009 11:38 PM

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Yeah, as much as I was a fan of his, he has no shot. 2 seasons with an OPS of .900+, his career OPS was .779 and he was overshadowed by Piazza and Sheffield.

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Posted: 12/02/2009 1:35 PM

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what does it take to make it on the ballot?
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Posted: 12/02/2009 3:13 PM

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calbluejames wrote: what does it take to make it on the ballot?

Have to have played for 10 years and been retired for 5 years.

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Posted: 12/02/2009 4:54 PM

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For those of you stating that he's not a Hall-of-Famer, trust me here. We all know.
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Posted: 12/04/2009 8:19 PM

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washie wrote:

Eric Karros: The longtime Dodger got off to a good start when he was named NL Rookie of the Year in 1992, and he wasn't too shabby thereafter. In his 14-year career, Karros hit .268 with 284 home runs and 1,027 RBIs while winning a Silver Slugger in 1995. That year, Karros batted .298 with 32 homers and 105 RBIs. And from 1995-97, he compiled 97 homers and drove in 320 runs. Karros put up pretty consistent numbers in 12 years in Los Angeles, with his finest season coming in '99, when he hit a career-high .304 with 34 homers and a career-high 112 RBIs.

 

By Alden Gonzalez / MLB.com

11/27/09 2:00 PM EST

They're not the headliners.

They're the ones who may have been overlooked because of the teams they played on, the markets they represented or the roles they had. The ones who might have missed a few more good years because of injuries. Or the ones who were simply beaten out on hardware by premier players in their respective leagues.

They're solid corner infielders like Eric Karros, David Segui, Todd Zeile and Robin Ventura; steady right-handers like Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson,, Kevin Appier and Shane Reynolds; and five-tool outfielders like Ellis Burks and Ray Lankford.

And the National Baseball Hall of Fame can come calling for them, too.

A candidate must receive 75 percent of the vote from the Baseball Writers' Association of America members to gain election to the Hall in Cooperstown, N.Y., with leadoff great Rickey Henderson and former Red Sox slugger Jim Rice reaching that threshold to gain entrance in 2009.

Results of the election will be announced on Wednesday, Jan. 6.

Former Expos and Cubs outfielder Andre Dawson (67.0 percent) and former Twins ace Bert Blyleven (62.7 percent) had the highest totals among those not elected in the 2009 voting and remain eligible for '10. They're joined on the ballot this year by a group of newcomers that includes former All-Star second baseman Roberto Alomar, Reds superstar shortstop Barry Larkin and Mariners designated hitter Edgar Martinez.

But while those guys will garner most of the attention, here are some of the others who will receive consideration:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl...artnerId=rss_la

 

Loved EK during some of the leaner years in the late 1990's, but the only way this guy gets into the Hall is with a ticket.  "All-time Los Angeles Dodger home run leader" sounds spiffy, but you have to consider that he didn't make many (any?) All-Star teams, the Dodgers have never really been a slugging outfit since moving to Dodger Stadium, and Karros simply managed to outlast bigger, better stars throughout his time here (Piazza, Sheffield, Green).  If any of those guys would have stuck w/ the Dodgers for 10+ years, Karros' name wouldn't be at the top of the record books.

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Posted: 12/07/2009 5:04 PM

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vtadave1 wrote: For those of you stating that he's not a Hall-of-Famer, trust me here. We all know.

+1

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Posted: 01/09/2010 2:17 AM

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I guess not Dave, he at least got two votes from the sports writers !
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Posted: 01/12/2010 6:09 AM

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Will LA ever send an everyday player to the HOF? I assume Piazza will go in as a Met considering he only played 5 full seasons in LA. I'm talking about a player who never played in Brooklyn.

With Dodger Stadium supressing HR's, free agency, and the Dodgers history of not committing longterm deals( 7+ yes) us it even possible? We can assume a longterm contract is very possible going forward. IMO, Matt Kemp is the best bet to break this drought, but it's going to be awhile.


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Posted: 01/12/2010 9:20 AM

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Steve Garvey had a way better case then Karros and he didn't come close.
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Posted: 01/18/2010 11:06 AM

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TxDodger73 wrote: Will LA ever send an everyday player to the HOF? I assume Piazza will go in as a Met considering he only played 5 full seasons in LA. I'm talking about a player who never played in Brooklyn.

With Dodger Stadium supressing HR's, free agency, and the Dodgers history of not committing longterm deals( 7+ yes) us it even possible? We can assume a longterm contract is very possible going forward. IMO, Matt Kemp is the best bet to break this drought, but it's going to be awhile.


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If Piazza had went to any other team besides a New York outfit, he would go in as a Dodger, because let's be honest, his peak years (MVP) were here in L.A.  He was the best offensive catcher of his generation as a Dodger, not as a Met.  However, we all know New York hype always wins out, so I guarantee he will go in (undeservedly, IMO) as a Met instead of a Dodger.
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Posted: 01/18/2010 11:08 AM

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smd67 wrote: Steve Garvey had a way better case then Karros and he didn't come close.
In my mind, both Garvey and Tommy John are Hall-of-Famers
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Posted: 02/04/2010 12:47 PM

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Garvey is a case of a player that gets screwed over by the steroid era.  His power numbers don't compare to the steroid era 1st basemen.  It is a shame.  I remember getting Garvey's autograph outside of Dodger stadium after a game.  He signed for every kid in line.  Most of the other players signed 2 or 3 and split.  Garvey was clutch and a great fielder (although a little short in height).  His teams seemed to win too.
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Posted: 03/23/2010 4:19 PM

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Karros = PED's....and he's not even good enough for people to question it.  He's about half the size he used to be. I walked right by him last year in Philly and couldn't believe how little he was. I always thought of Karros as a big guy...far from it now.

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