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Mets @ Dodgers 8/22 - 8/24

Posted: 08/22/2014 2:30 PM

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Go Dodgers!
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Posted: 08/22/2014 8:41 PM

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Dodger pitching staff needs AJ Ellis to catch them but he is as great an offensive liability I think I have ever seen with  major league baseball player.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 9:48 PM

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Homerun Haren in true form, first batter of game....jack city, at least we won!!!noidea
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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:07 PM

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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:13 PM

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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:23 PM

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Posted: 08/22/2014 11:23 PM

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Homerun Haren in true form, first batter of game....jack city, at least we won!!!noidea

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That is you comment? He piches 3 hit ball, no walks, and only gives up one run and all you can say about his performance is that he gave up a home run?
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Posted: 08/22/2014 11:28 PM

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You haven't been watching for very long then!


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Dodger pitching staff needs AJ Ellis to catch them but he is as great an offensive liability I think I have ever seen with  major league baseball player.

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Posted: 08/23/2014 12:38 AM

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You haven't been watching for very long then!

My thoughts exactly!!! Haren been giving it up ALL year and has ONE decent game against a CRAPPY team and you have his back, sorry but I don't, he needs to be our late inning mop up guy in blowout games!!ohlord
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Posted: 08/23/2014 12:45 AM

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Homerun Haren in true form, first batter of game....jack city, at least we won!!!noidea

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That is you comment? He piches 3 hit ball, no walks, and only gives up one run and all you can say about his performance is that he gave up a home run?

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Posted: 08/23/2014 12:49 AM

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Dan Harens adventurous night!!!  PLEASE READ!!!eek
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Posted: 08/23/2014 2:03 AM

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SPORTFREAK wrote: Dan Harens adventurous night!!!  PLEASE READ!!!eek
Yeah I read it!  Daniel Brim is cherry picking a good outing into a bad one.  7 innings, 3 hits, 6 K's and only 1 earned and yet the strikeouts weren't done right!  He's talking about red flags?  What a crock of ( fill in the blank )  If I were you, I wouldn't be using this Simers wannabe blogger as justification.  It's obvious you're not a Haren fan but what's more important?  Proving you're right or hoping you're wrong?  Which benefits the team more?  Here's a few facts.  Like him or not, Haren has pitched well lately and has helped us stay atop the division.  Hernandez and Correia, whether you liked them or not, are helping us maintain while we work through some injuries.  We're close to getting back Ryu and Greinke and they've kept our heads above water.  At the very least appreciate that.
Happiness aint nothing more than having something to look forward to. ( Robert Duval - A Family Thing )
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Posted: 08/23/2014 3:22 AM

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Here's a portion of a more objective opinion.

Dan Haren has another good day

August, 22, 2014
AUG 22
11:45
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By  Mark Saxon  | ESPNLosAngeles.com
LOS ANGELES -- It's all about the now for Dan Haren. He looks back on the past few years and sees disappointment. He looks ahead and can't see much of anything, just a haze of unknowns. So, what else does he have to lean on but the day at hand? 

The Los Angeles Dodgers are hanging on tight in these touch-and-go times for a starting rotation that was a shining beacon three weeks ago and, at the moment, has only one bright light,Clayton Kershaw. It's going to take more than one bankable starting pitcher, great as he is, to get them where they thought they were heading. 

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Richard Mackson/USA TODAY Sports Dan Haren needs only 30 innings this season to trigger a $10 million contract option, but he'd rather the Dodgers win the division.
So, getting Haren straightened out would be nice. And he'd love nothing more than to be that guy again. He'd love nothing more than to help the Dodgers reach the playoffs and, after that, who knows? 

It has been a grind of a season for Haren, 33, but three of his past four starts have been strong, leading to the suggestion, however fleeting, that he can be a part of this team's final drive. He might have to be, with Zack Greinketrying to pitch with a sore elbow and two other starters on the disabled list. 

Ask Josh Beckett about pitching for the moment. He was among the best starting pitchers in baseball for three months. Now, after a serious hip injury flared up, his season is probably over and his career just might be, too. Beckett is only one year older than Haren, and Haren has actually pitched about 100 more innings in his career. 

"I have to be able to step up," Haren said. "I've been one of the five guys all year and, however many starts I have left, they have to be as good as they can be." 

Two seasons ago, Haren was on an Los Angeles Angelsteam that had just signed one of the game's greatest players, Albert Pujols, and was a heavy World Series favorite. They finished third. Last year, Haren was supposed to be the final piece of a starting pitching puzzle that would make the Washington Nationals perhaps the most dominant team in the National League. They finished second, 10 games out, and went nowhere in October. 

Don't you think Haren would love a chance to help get his hometown team into the playoffs? Oddly, if he does just that he might find he has the option of continuing the run for another year. Haren went seven strong innings in the Dodgers' 6-2 win over the New York Mets on Friday night, cruising after Curtis Granderson's leadoff home run. 

That gave Haren 150 innings pitched this season, 30 shy of triggering a $10 million contract option for 2015. In other words, if Haren pitches well over these final six starts or so, he can make up his mind whether to pitch for the Dodgers next season at an identical salary or to hit free agency, or ... 

"It may sound stupid, but who knows if I'll even want to play next year," Haren said. "I'd rather throw 179 2/3 innings and us win the division, honestly. I've made enough money in my life. I've been blessed. My kids' kids hopefully are set up. That's a lot of money. I don't want to devalue that and sound like a snob, but I mean, my goal is for this team to achieve what we set out to." 

A nice camaraderie has developed among this group of starting pitchers. When one of them warms up before the game, the rest of the starters typically saunter down and watch the bullpen session. They don't usually offer any input, but when the starting pitcher that night finishes warming up, they're the first to fist-bump him before the long walk down the line to the dugout. It is a tradition that started in L.A. when Greg Maddux showed up one August. It has continued since. Haren has never pitched on a staff that had such a tradition and he has enjoyed being part of this group. 

The problem is, the group is hardly intact right now. Haren and Kershaw are the only pitchers from the five who are entirely healthy at the moment. Beckett is out for the season, Ryu is on the disabled list and Greinke's availability is start to start, depending how inflamed his right elbow gets after each outing. 

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly has taken the same live-in-the-moment posture Haren has, as he surveys what has been happening to his rotation. 

"I don't even think of it. It's day to day. This time of year you're grinding out games. You get a good performance, you feel good," Mattingly said. "That last one, Danny didn't feel good. At this point, you're not looking back at the last three. He feels good right now, we feel good, we won tonight, simple as that, keep it as clean as one game."




Happiness aint nothing more than having something to look forward to. ( Robert Duval - A Family Thing )
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Posted: 08/23/2014 8:48 AM

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I havent been watching very long then? He has pitched extremely well in three of his last four starts beat the Angels and the Braves in two of those and I am the one not paying attention. Please. Apparently you only watched on batter last night while I watched the entire game.

By all means though, lets bring up Chris Reed or Zach Lee to replace him. They have been dealing lately.
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Posted: 08/23/2014 11:54 AM

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So Haren gives up a HR and it's panic time? :) Bottom line is that the overall results have been okay. Dodgers are 13-13 with their 5th best starter starting, so acting like he's blown it for the team this year is ignorance. Look at other top NL teams to see what to expect. Gonzalez, Garza, Estrada, Vogelsong, Minor, Wood, Miller, Liriano... none have started in more than 13 wins. Most less.

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Posted: 08/23/2014 12:52 PM

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DiggityDodger wrote:

So Haren gives up a HR and it's panic time? :) Bottom line is that the overall results have been okay. Dodgers are 13-13 with their 5th best starter starting, so acting like he's blown it for the team this year is ignorance. Look at other top NL teams to see what to expect. Gonzalez, Garza, Estrada, Vogelsong, Minor, Wood, Miller, Liriano... none have started in more than 13 wins. Most less.

That all may be true, Diggity, but the bottom line is Beckett's getting hurt is the only thing that saved his spot in the rotation; he was either in the bullpen or out of there altogether. He had been doing so poorly that he was going to be replaced by the "great" Hernandez, or whatever his name is today. He has tightened up his act since his job was seriously threatened: I will give him that.

I, myself, get frustrated by pitchers who consistently give up early runs to get the team in the hole in the first few innings, and thereby create a situation where the offense is under the added pressure of playing from behind. Homer Run Haren seems to be the king of doing just that. The guy gives up so many home runs to begin with, and many have come early in the game. Yes, the team has bailed him out on several occasions, thus the 13-13 record in those starts; but I don't like consistently having to play catch up. In any profession, more mistakes are made when workers are working under added pressure. Something to consider rather than just that 13-13. 

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Posted: 08/23/2014 1:02 PM

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MDMore wrote:
DiggityDodger wrote:

So Haren gives up a HR and it's panic time? :) Bottom line is that the overall results have been okay. Dodgers are 13-13 with their 5th best starter starting, so acting like he's blown it for the team this year is ignorance. Look at other top NL teams to see what to expect. Gonzalez, Garza, Estrada, Vogelsong, Minor, Wood, Miller, Liriano... none have started in more than 13 wins. Most less.

That all may be true, Diggity, but the bottom line is Beckett's getting hurt is the only thing that saved his spot in the rotation; he was either in the bullpen or out of there altogether. He had been doing so poorly that he was going to be replaced by the "great" Hernandez, or whatever his name is today. He has tightened up his act since his job was seriously threatened: I will give him that.

I, myself, get frustrated by pitchers who consistently give up early runs to get the team in the hole in the first few innings, and thereby create a situation where the offense is under the added pressure of playing from behind. Homer Run Haren seems to be the king of doing just that. The guy gives up so many home runs to begin with, and many have come early in the game. Yes, the team has bailed him out on several occasions, thus the 13-13 record in those starts; but I don't like consistently having to play catch up. In any profession, more mistakes are made when workers are working under added pressure. Something to consider rather than just that 13-13. 

M.M.
Not true. Hernandez was picked up because they wanted a 6th starter to replace Maholm, at the same time they knew Beckett was going to DL, then they went and got Correia. Mattingly went on record as saying he wasn't ready to dump Haren.
Expecting more out of a 5th starter than Haren is giving is a rare luxury. 
Doubt a one run deficit after the first inning has any bearing on added pressure.


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Posted: 08/23/2014 1:50 PM

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md stop comparing running a company to the game of baseball. There is no comparison and never will be.

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DiggityDodger wrote:So Haren gives up a HR and it's panic time? :) Bottom line is that the overall results have been okay. Dodgers are 13-13 with their 5th best starter starting, so acting like he's blown it for the team this year is ignorance. Look at other top NL teams to see what to expect. Gonzalez, Garza, Estrada, Vogelsong, Minor, Wood, Miller, Liriano... none have started in more than 13 wins. Most less.

That all may be true, Diggity, but the bottom line is Beckett's getting hurt is the only thing that saved his spot in the rotation; he was either in the bullpen or out of there altogether. He had been doing so poorly that he was going to be replaced by the "great" Hernandez, or whatever his name is today. He has tightened up his act since his job was seriously threatened: I will give him that.

I, myself, get frustrated by pitchers who consistently give up early runs to get the team in the hole in the first few innings, and thereby create a situation where the offense is under the added pressure of playing from behind. Homer Run Haren seems to be the king of doing just that. The guy gives up so many home runs to begin with, and many have come early in the game. Yes, the team has bailed him out on several occasions, thus the 13-13 record in those starts; but I don't like consistently having to play catch up. In any profession, more mistakes are made when workers are working under added pressure. Something to consider rather than just that 13-13. 

M.M.

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Posted: 08/23/2014 2:52 PM

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Agree 100%, he should be our mop up guy!!redface
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Posted: 08/23/2014 7:11 PM

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good decision by Donnie to sit a hot Turner and start Rojas in his place.. ughhhh

and why does it seem the ball always jumps off the bat for the opposing team.. Lagares with a HR?!?!
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