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Brewers at Dodgers 8/15 - 8/17

Posted: 08/15/2014 8:42 PM

Brewers at Dodgers 8/15 - 8/17 


Go Dodgers!
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Posted: 08/15/2014 9:17 PM

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Puig is not a choker, I think he has thoroughly demonstrated his knowledge of the game!
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Posted: 08/15/2014 9:44 PM

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Damn Puig is so solid. Knocking in both runs and not letting the rest of the choke crew a chance to mess things up :P

Winning a game when Grienke didnt have his usual stuff is a very positive sign. He was able to gut it out without damage and thankfully we scratched in two runs to protect.
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Posted: 08/15/2014 10:09 PM

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Just don't understand the bullpen sometimes.  If League was available, why have Wright pitch the 8th and not League?

Just the facts.

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Posted: 08/15/2014 10:15 PM

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another off night with the bullpen
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Posted: 08/15/2014 10:16 PM

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Our Pen needs fixing ASAP or don't expect much success in the post season!!!bangheadmad
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Posted: 08/15/2014 10:29 PM

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This is why I keep complaining about Mattingly. He just sits and watches five consecutive batters hit the ball hard and it doesn't occur to him that maybe it's time to make a decision, anything. He has no clue about handling a pitching staff. You just can't give games away like this.
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Posted: 08/15/2014 10:39 PM

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well at least the Phillies have battled back and now have a 2 run lead against the Gnats going into the bottom of the 10th

let's hope their bullpen doesn't falter
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Posted: 08/16/2014 12:07 AM

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med the glenhaven wrote: This is why I keep complaining about Mattingly. He just sits and watches five consecutive batters hit the ball hard and it doesn't occur to him that maybe it's time to make a decision, anything. He has no clue about handling a pitching staff. You just can't give games away like this.
Why is that? Because a game got away?  What he did is what you're suppose to do.  It just doesn't always work.  Sometimes you have to let them work out of it.  Sometimes they will and sometimes they won't.  Considering were one of only three teams, soon to be 5, with 70 wins, I'd say he's doing alright.  And remember,  it's a game of odds that aren't always going to go our way.   We have a 5.5 game lead with 38 games to play.  Unless we're suddenly hit with a rash of major injuries, we should be fine.  The bullpen will get worked out.
Happiness aint nothing more than having something to look forward to. ( Robert Duval - A Family Thing )
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Posted: 08/16/2014 12:35 AM

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Posted: 08/16/2014 12:39 AM

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With the exception of Howell and Jansen, our bullpen sucks badly....it needs fixing or don't expect a long playoff run!!!ohlord  I still think Paplebon is on our radar but the price needs to go down before Ned will deal. Rumor has it Phils are asking way to much for their stars but the price will go down the closer we get to the waiver deadline!!!noidea
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Posted: 08/16/2014 6:54 AM

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Truth is, all the other winning teams out there know their roles in the pen- we simply have no clue except for who is going to close. It's been that way since Wilson basically lost his 8th inning role back in June. I like Wright, but he isn't a late inning reliever, and everyone (except Mattingly evidentially) knows that. This was a glaring need at the trade deadline, and I have no clue why it wasn't addressed. The only explanation I can come up with is Ned spent tens of millions on this pen over the last two seasons and was holding out hope that they were going to bounce back....and simply wasn't aggressive enough to get a back end arm (and there were several traded away at reasonable costs)...two weeks till our pen is locked for the postseason and we got two that we can rely on (Jansen and Howell)...

Ideally, it would be:

Mop up/Long Relief- Wright
6th inning/occasional 7th- League
7th- Wilson
8th- We need someone here

LH Specilaist (or late inning if match ups warrant)- Howell

CL- Jansen

We aren't going anywhere if this doesn't come together the next two weeks, which will be a big challenge considering we just lost one of our big three in rotation till early September....
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Posted: 08/16/2014 7:51 AM

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This is the second time the Brewers do this to us banghead
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Posted: 08/16/2014 8:09 AM

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bkt42 wrote: The only explanation I can come up with is Ned spent tens of millions on this pen over the last two seasons and was holding out hope that they were going to bounce back.....

I think that makes sense. They paid for a quality pen, and they'll stick with it to see how far it'll take them. Jansen, Wilson, League, Howell, etc. could have been solid, but it hasn't worked out like they hoped. Mattingly's doing the only thing you can do, which is keep throwing them out there looking for something to take shape. They can still bring new in, but it's not like there are lots of great options that are any more solid than what they've got. They may not want to pay much more than they're already paying, or give up much either.


To win it all, everything has to come together in a season, and at the right time. It's nice when Sept. comes along, and it's just baseball. No more everyone's a GM making round-the-clock fantasy deals or managing the farm. It comes down to just rooting for the team we got.

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Posted: 08/16/2014 8:21 AM

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A bright scientist once said "the definition of insanity is ....................."

Hence, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is, well, insane.
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Posted: 08/16/2014 7:15 PM

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Ryan(PED) Braun 2 run jack...2-0 Brew Crew! mad

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Posted: 08/16/2014 7:42 PM

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Long Time Blue            "Sometimes you have to let them work it out," That's a little generous, sometimes you just don't have it. We're in the middle of a pennant race, you don't always have that luxury.Do something different, be proactive, that's what managers are paid to do. You can't let pitchers give four consecutive walks or hits and win a tight pennant race. Yes, we have won seventy, with that kind of leadership we won't win many more.

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Posted: 08/16/2014 9:07 PM

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I had a talk with my boss about a supplier/installer, keep walking down the same path expecting to arrive at a different destination!


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--- Dodgfan wrote:

A bright scientist once said "the definition of insanity is ....................."

Hence, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is, well, insane.

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Posted: 08/16/2014 10:21 PM

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Posted: 08/16/2014 11:49 PM

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glenhaven wrote: Long Time Blue            "Sometimes you have to let them work it out," That's a little generous, sometimes you just don't have it. We're in the middle of a pennant race, you don't always have that luxury.Do something different, be proactive, that's what managers are paid to do. You can't let pitchers give four consecutive walks or hits and win a tight pennant race. Yes, we have won seventy, with that kind of leadership we won't win many more.
You don't stray away from what got you here.  The A's just did that and it may come back to haunt them.  We need to get an arm often your through a waiver trade, Let some of the call ups audition for a spot in the post season pen.  Then, come playoffs, shorten your rotation to four and have your number five come out of the pen.It's not a hard fix.  A rotation of Kershaw, Greinke a healthy Ryu and either Haren or Hernandez or both in the case of Ryu not being ready.  A Bullpen of Jansen, League, Wilson, Correia,  plus a new arm or two and we should be in okay shape.  As for the leadership of Mattingly, not only did it win us 70,  It can win us a title!
Happiness aint nothing more than having something to look forward to. ( Robert Duval - A Family Thing )
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