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How do you rate Mattingly?

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Posted: 07/13/2014 4:27 PM

How do you rate Mattingly? 


Yankee fan here, don't kill me lol

Just wanted to know everyone's opinions on your manager, Don Mattingly.  

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Posted: 07/13/2014 6:04 PM

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He seems to have a good presence in the clubhouse which may be the most important aspect.

In my opinion he has done absolutely nothing in 3 years in the dugout to distinguish himself as any kind of good strategist.  He just does not seem to think outside the box in any way at all.  In close games in the playoffs, he has generally been outmanaged.  People like Bochy and LaRussa have eaten him for lunch.

He doesn't panic.

He rarely outright hurts us, but overall I would call him average at best.

Just the facts.

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Posted: 07/14/2014 1:52 PM

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Well he has made a whole lot less of the bizarre bunts he had when the previous bench coach was around.  It was not just a standard fans mad at a too often bunting manager, but he would bunt straight up weird.  I think that was in a large way Hillman's firing impetus.

I think he may be underrrated strategically because of the bunting reputation.  He still should stop the practice of restricting lefties to a leftie opponent when capable of handling anybody [Howell] or managing around a save, but every manager has to learn that I think.  Occasionally he can make exploitable switches a superior strategist capitalizes on, but those are not a common occurrence and I only get mad at his decisions a few times.

I would not make the same accusation regarding his thinking outside the box because he has certainly maximized roster flexibility.

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Posted: 07/14/2014 7:12 PM

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GameMusic wrote:



I would not make the same accusation regarding his thinking outside the box because he has certainly maximized roster flexibility.

How so?

Just the facts.

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Posted: 07/15/2014 11:11 AM

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I'd give Mattingly a solid B, even considering his early days as a manager.  Given what the roster was and has become, I think he has outgrown his elaborate bunting and unconventional bullpen handling.  As noted above, he does seem to be a player's coach and he gets results out of them.  

By no means is Donnie a La Russa caliber manager but he certainly has entrenched himself pretty well as manager.

One other thought I had was with the rampant speculation after the 2012 season regarding Donnie's contract, it is an attestment to his prowess as a manger and his resiliency.

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Posted: 07/15/2014 12:59 PM

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I'd say right now he is average at best. He doesn't seem to be getting in his own why to much anymore, but he still makes some strange moves. I also think he can be a very good manager, I just think about the fact he has not managed at any other level.

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Posted: 07/15/2014 11:57 PM

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Posted: 07/16/2014 6:43 AM

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MLB Managers are the LEAST impactful in game decision makers in all of sports. Most of the decisions that are made on that basis, could be made by many of us from our living rooms.  Not very complicated to decide when to pinch hit, when to go to the bullpen etc.  


The back room stuff that nobody sees first-hand except a few in the media is where baseball managers earn their keep.  I think Mattingly does a very good job there. He doesn't panic.  He doesn't lose his cool like so many other reactionary types and the ball club as a whole seems to make good progress from spring to fall. Baseball is a marathon.  It takes a special individual to make sure that the team doesn't get too high or too low based on temporary circumstances.  
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Posted: 07/16/2014 11:07 AM

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Spot on.  Mattingly's worth is beyond X's and O's (or whatever letters they use in baseball).
CactusDave wrote: MLB Managers are the LEAST impactful in game decision makers in all of sports. Most of the decisions that are made on that basis, could be made by many of us from our living rooms.  Not very complicated to decide when to pinch hit, when to go to the bullpen etc.  


The back room stuff that nobody sees first-hand except a few in the media is where baseball managers earn their keep.  I think Mattingly does a very good job there. He doesn't panic.  He doesn't lose his cool like so many other reactionary types and the ball club as a whole seems to make good progress from spring to fall. Baseball is a marathon.  It takes a special individual to make sure that the team doesn't get too high or too low based on temporary circumstances.  

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Posted: 07/16/2014 2:20 PM

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There are many kinds of managers with various strengths and philosophies. And the Dodgers are a unique roster. I sure don't know how best to manage them. I doubt anyone here has ever hired a major league manager or won a game as one, but anyone can have an opinion. Ultimately, the managers who win are rated highly.

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Posted: 07/16/2014 7:20 PM

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I think to be honest my biggest beef is how he has used the bullpen. He has been to loyal to some of those guys instead of playing matchups. I know he has turds to deal with down there which is not his fault, but he runs out some of those guys regardless of matchups in my opinion.

A little more hit and run or a suicide squeeze would be nice.

Right now, with the injuries he has to deal with, probably a B-



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Posted: 07/18/2014 2:23 PM

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Thanks for the replies. It sounds like you can copy and paste this thread onto a Yankee board and replace Mattingly with Girardi and no body would question it... if that makes sense.. Pretty much these are typically the comments that you'd hear about Girardi.. which leads me to believe they're both average managers.. Which would be a good thing.. I guess..

Thanks again, was just curious about how the former Yankee was doing in the eyes of DODGERS fans
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Posted: 07/18/2014 7:21 PM

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I've been reading message boards for years now. Every manager of a losing team, or a team with high expectations that is struggling at all, gets the same criticisms. I can set my watch to it. :)

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Posted: 07/18/2014 7:39 PM

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Posted: 07/19/2014 2:28 PM

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F-  Has no feel for the game. Good or great managers can anticipate. He's a typical American League guy, waiting for the three run homer.

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Posted: 07/19/2014 7:34 PM

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DiggityDodger wrote:

I've been reading message boards for years now. Every manager of a losing team, or a team with high expectations that is struggling at all, gets the same criticisms. I can set my watch to it. :)

Except sometimes even the message boards are right cool

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