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Dodgers vs. Rockies July 3-6

Posted: 07/03/2014 7:28 PM

Dodgers vs. Rockies July 3-6 


Did not see a thread for this so thought I would start one.
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Posted: 07/03/2014 7:54 PM

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Grienke couldn't hold the lead.. thankfully he gets out of the inning with just giving up the 1 run

guess with Grienke at only 84 pitches coming into the inning he didn't want to go to the pen especially after yesterday's outing..

let's hope the offense can get something going here in the 9th
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Posted: 07/03/2014 8:01 PM

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Uribeeeeeee!!!!!
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Posted: 07/03/2014 8:26 PM

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Posted: 07/04/2014 5:57 AM

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I got to watch the game on the MLB network and was not disappointed. Greinke looked great. I just wish I could see Kershaw today.
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Posted: 07/04/2014 9:13 AM

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I would like to inform Los Angeles Dodger fans that television announcers Drew Goodman and George Frazier for the Colorado Rockies have called the Dodgers recent efforts in baseball as a "soap opera".  Consider the anger that these two jack asses made Marty Brennanman the long time Cincinnati Reds radio announcer to "flip them off". 

The Colorado Rockies have recently "dug up" Jair Jurrgens from his wanderings in Baltimore and Cincinnati where he did not start a game.   Two years possibility since he started a game.  Now he is up against Clayton Kershaw tonight. 

The pitching staff of the Colorado Rockies is a train wreck of historical and monumental portions.  These two morons who announce Colorado Rockies games truly live in a glass house while they throw rocks.

Dodger hitters Stomp Jair Jurrgens tonight.
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Posted: 07/04/2014 12:22 PM

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The is a lot of idiots out there that should be taking the short but very meaningful class Vin offered on Dan Patrick.

www.danpatrick.com/2014/07/01/...es-art-silence/


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--- 1955fanUSC wrote:

I would like to inform Los Angeles Dodger fans that television announcers Drew Goodman and George Frazier for the Colorado Rockies have called the Dodgers recent efforts in baseball as a "soap opera".  Consider the anger that these two jack asses made Marty Brennanman the long time Cincinnati Reds radio announcer to "flip them off". 

The Colorado Rockies have recently "dug up" Jair Jurrgens from his wanderings in Baltimore and Cincinnati where he did not start a game.   Two years possibility since he started a game.  Now he is up against Clayton Kershaw tonight. 

The pitching staff of the Colorado Rockies is a train wreck of historical and monumental portions.  These two morons who announce Colorado Rockies games truly live in a glass house while they throw rocks.

Dodger hitters Stomp Jair Jurrgens tonight.

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Posted: 07/04/2014 1:30 PM

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Great job by our ace, Greinke. Since 2011, Zach has the highest winning percentage in baseball, somewhere around .720 with an ERA under 3.00. I am pulling for him to get his second Cy Young in his career, over Wainwright. Dodger starters now have the all time record for consecutive starts while giving up two walks or less.

C'mon Clayton, now make it two in a row. Dodger hitters technically should feast tonight unless they take the night off.

M.M.

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Posted: 07/04/2014 2:59 PM

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I have watched many Rockies games in past and always thought the Colorado announcers have been pretty good and fair. They were very complementary of Kershaw in no hit game.

To be honest the  dodgers are a soup opera team. So many " stars" underachieving and some players attitude would certainly be classified as flippant or unprofessional by many baseball  fans.
We need Kershaw to continue streak and take advantage of Rockies poor pitching.
Mattingly needs to put good lineup vs semi pro lineup of a few days ago.

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Posted: 07/04/2014 3:57 PM

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A star underachieving makes for a soap opera? A flippant attitude makes for a soap opera?  I haven't watched soaps lately but that seems to happen on every team.
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Posted: 07/04/2014 6:06 PM

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MDMore wrote: Great job by our ace, Greinke. Since 2011, Zach has the highest winning percentage in baseball, somewhere around .720 with an ERA under 3.00. I am pulling for him to get his second Cy Young in his career, over Wainright. Dodger starters now have the all time record for consecutive starts while giving up two walks or less.

C'mon Clayton, now make it two in a row. Dodger hitters technically should feast tonight unless they take the night off.

M.M.
I am with you MM, good post.
Jeff
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Posted: 07/04/2014 7:23 PM

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You are watching our ace.  No matter how badly you don't want to admit it. You are the only person in the world that think Greinke is a better pitcher than Kershaw.  Of course you count wins and losses as an important statistic as well. 

Comments like that are why you are a complete dumbass.  Don't worry, I still have you on ignore, but since someone quoted you and I had to read your crap I felt compelled to respond.
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Posted: 07/04/2014 7:46 PM

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haji81872 wrote: You are watching our ace.  No matter how badly you don't want to admit it. You are the only person in the world that think Greinke is a better pitcher than Kershaw.  Of course you count wins and losses as an important statistic as well. 

Comments like that are why you are a complete dumbass.  Don't worry, I still have you on ignore, but since someone quoted you and I had to read your crap I felt compelled to respond.
See what I mean, Nevada? It is my opinion that we have two aces, but I feel more confident, especially in clutch situations, with Greinke on the mound right now; and this is what I get as a response. Now normally I would respond back to defend myself, and would be called out by your side as attacking. This time I will pass and just consider the intelligence of the source. Where is the moderator to back up his challenge?

Kershaw is having a great game tonight, and he deserves tons of credit. The offense has also exploded for him. This doesn't take away from his performance. But in a game like last night's, nail biter down to the wire, I like our chances better with Greinke. His is as calm and cool as ice out there. I also believe that had Clayton gotten a win in game 6 last year, Greinke would have won game 7 and gotten us to the World Series. This is my OPINION. I love Clayton, but I have gotten criticized numerous times for saying he had to win more games when the team only gets him one or two runs. Greinke seems better at that. I say, Greinke will seriously contend and hopefully win the Cy Young this year. I may come down to Clayton, Wainwright, and Greinke. As long as a Dodger gets it I am happy. I just have a feeling Greinke will do it this year. No attack necessary, but now you see what I mean, hopefully.

M.M.

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Posted: 07/04/2014 11:42 PM

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MDMore: "I also believe that had Clayton gotten a win in game 6 last year, Greinke would have won game 7 and gotten us to the World Series. This is my OPINION."

Both pitchers are great, and I wouldn't mind starting either in a big game. Neither has gotten anyone to a World Series. Were you around in 2011 when the Cards beat Greinke in game 5 of the NLCS?

Of course you're entitled to your opinion. You have many feelings about Kershaw, and it's obvious you're still a wreck over last year's playoff game. But there are also facts. In response to you last season, I showed that Clayton has the best winning percentage and ERA with 0-2 runs of support amongst all the great contemporary pitchers I could list. Career-wise, Kershaw's much better than Greinke.

Here's the last season-and-a-half with Kersh and Zach as teammates: Games started with 0-2 runs of support --- W-L --- and ERA.

Kershaw:

2013 --- 16 --- 4-8 --- 2.03

2014 ---- 3 --- 2-1 --- 1.29

Greinke:

2013 ---- 6 --- 2-3 --- 2.61

2014 ---- 3 --- 0-2 --- 3.00

Clayton tends to get poorer run support, and pitchers don't win a lot when they don't get runs. That's a fact. His ERA indicates just how tough he's been to score on in those situations.

We can't know the future, but we can look up the past.

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Posted: 07/04/2014 11:47 PM

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Maybe just maybe you need to ask your yourself who is not going to give up a run in 36 innings. You can't ask for anymore yet you still do.

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haji81872 wrote: You are watching our ace.  No matter how badly you don't want to admit it. You are the only person in the world that think Greinke is a better pitcher than Kershaw.  Of course you count wins and losses as an important statistic as well. 

Comments like that are why you are a complete dumbass.  Don't worry, I still have you on ignore, but since someone quoted you and I had to read your crap I felt compelled to respond.
See what I mean, Nevada? It is my opinion that we have two aces, but I feel more confident, especially in clutch situations, with Greinke on the mound right now; and this is what I get as a response. Now normally I would respond back to defend myself, and would be called out by your side as attacking. This time I will pass and just consider the intelligence of the source. Where is the moderator to back up his challenge?

Kershaw is having a great game tonight, and he deserves tons of credit. The offense has also exploded for him. This doesn't take away from his performance. But in a game like last night's, nail biter down to the wire, I like our chances better with Greinke. His is as calm and cool as ice out there. I also believe that had Clayton gotten a win in game 6 last year, Greinke would have won game 7 and gotten us to the World Series. This is my OPINION. I love Clayton, but I have gotten criticized numerous times for saying he had to win more games when the team only gets him one or two runs. Greinke seems better at that. I say, Greinke will seriously contend and hopefully win the Cy Young this year. I may come down to Clayton, Wainright, and Greinke. As long as a Dodger gets it I am happy. I just have a feeling Greinke will do it this year. No attack necessary, but now you see what I mean, hopefully.

M.M.

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Posted: 07/04/2014 11:54 PM

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Can you call the whole division race at 1.5 up?
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Posted: 07/05/2014 12:35 AM

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If we stretch it out to 4 games by the all star break, I am ready to call it.  We are finally able to start trotting our regular line up out there with Ellis, Uribe and  Hanley playing again.  Our pitching staff is firing on all cylinders, The bullpen is getting sorted out.  I love our bench with EA, Van Slyke, and Turner when he gets healthy. We get up four and make a couple of moves before the deadline and I think it is all over.    
GameMusic wrote: Can you call the whole division race at 1.5 up
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Posted: 07/05/2014 3:43 AM

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DiggityDodger wrote:

MDMore: "I also believe that had Clayton gotten a win in game 6 last year, Greinke would have won game 7 and gotten us to the World Series. This is my OPINION."

Both pitchers are great, and I wouldn't mind starting either in a big game. Neither has gotten anyone to a World Series. Were you around in 2011 when the Cards beat Greinke in game 5 of the NLCS?

Of course you're entitled to your opinion. You have many feelings about Kershaw, and it's obvious you're still a wreck over last year's playoff game. But there are also facts. In response to you last season, I showed that Clayton has the best winning percentage and ERA with 0-2 runs of support amongst all the great contemporary pitchers I could list. Career-wise, Kershaw's much better than Greinke.

Here's the last season-and-a-half with Kersh and Zach as teammates: Games started with 0-2 runs of support --- W-L --- and ERA.

Kershaw:

2013 --- 16 --- 4-8 --- 2.03

2014 ---- 3 --- 2-1 --- 1.29

Greinke:

2013 ---- 6 --- 2-3 --- 2.61

2014 ---- 3 --- 0-2 --- 3.00

Clayton tends to get poorer run support, and pitchers don't win a lot when they don't get runs. That's a fact. His ERA indicates just how tough he's been to score on in those situations.

We can't know the future, but we can look up the past.

Thanks for the stats, Diggity. The one I really like, though, is the one the announcer gave the other night when Greinke won a name with very little support also. Since 2011, Greinke has the best record in major league baseball, with now upwards of .720. Amazing. I know that ERA and WHIP are more important than wins on a pitcher's record, so no need to regurgitate that, but there is also a reason guys like Scully et al quote the team record in games the starter has pitched, and that is too often overlooked as well. 

M.M.
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Posted: 07/05/2014 8:36 AM

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When I agreed with MDM's "our ace Greinke.." I was looking at it like he meant our ace as opposed to the Angels ace, not that he was the ace of the staff. I think Kershaw is our #1 ace and Greinke is our #1A ace. If I am putting a team together and had to pick one I would go with Kershaw. Right now Kershaw looks like he will break Orel's scoreless inning streak. He is filthy.

  I like the way the whole starting pitching is going, now if Colletti will just do something about the bullpen.


ps. MDM, this is not an attack, I can see your side of the Greinke vs Kershaw debate. I am sure if this forum was around in the 60's there would have been a fan debate about who was better, Koufax or Drysdale. However, I do think that some reactions by posters to you has more to do with the words you use, rather then your opinions.

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Posted: 07/05/2014 8:39 AM

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haji81872 wrote: You are watching our ace.  No matter how badly you don't want to admit it. You are the only person in the world that think Greinke is a better pitcher than Kershaw.  Of course you count wins and losses as an important statistic as well. 

Comments like that are why you are a complete dumbass.  Don't worry, I still have you on ignore, but since someone quoted you and I had to read your crap I felt compelled to respond.
Hey Nevada et al,

Evil prevails when good men stand by and do nothing. confusedconfused

M.M.
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