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Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16

Posted: 06/14/2013 5:37 PM

Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16 

Dodgers  need to get a couple wins here..tough matchup tonight
Fife needs to give us a solid game
Thru 5 ip ..only 2 runs...8 ground outs... almost 100 pitches..solid.
we gotta get some runs..same old story.

Last edited 06/14/2013 6:19 PM by colobrowns

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Posted: 06/14/2013 5:57 PM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/13-15 

Hitless wonders are at it again
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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:07 PM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/13-15 

I think the dates for this series should have been 6/14-6/16; just a minor correction.
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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:21 PM

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Got it thanks. Dodgers should have send in ether... bad call by wallach at 3b.... on Harrison's double.. play not to lose vs play to win. Make then throw you out.
Should be 2-1 but dodgers don't risk anything? So 2-0!

Last edited 06/14/2013 6:23 PM by colobrowns

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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:24 PM

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Golden opportunity goes by the wayside as the hitless wonder Ellis boys fail to come through. A.J. has been up three times and struck out all three times; but of course he now has his injury as an excuse for the rest of the season. Truth is, I wish the Dodgers would trade for a real catcher. A.J. perhaps needs another six or seven years in the minors; very weak hitter with relatively no power. Ugh!

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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:24 PM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/13-15 

Didn't help that Uribe whiffed like he did. There really wasn't much behind Ethier. They needed to take the runs when the can get them.
colobrowns wrote: Got it thanks. Dodgers should have send in ether... bad call by wallach at 3b.... on Harrison's double.. play not to lose vs play to win. Make then throw you out.
Should be 2-1 but dodgers don't risk anything? So 2-0!

ddgerfan, thelateddgerfan no longer.

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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:31 PM

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Wallach has been doing that ever since he has been coaching third. Guys have had to run through his stop signs to score easily. I hope he is not named manager when Mattingly is fired. He plays not to lose instead of playing to win.
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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:33 PM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/13-15 

Well guy comes of DL and you give him no slack.... Nice?
Fact is we should be 2-1 regardless If 3b coach is like pirates.
Fife gave us chance to win...
Pirates have done well with Rockies has beens... walker and Barmes and manager and of dodger discard Martin.
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Posted: 06/14/2013 6:56 PM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/13-15 

Wish the Dodgers played as good as they fight...smdh. This season is not going to turn around, happens every year.
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Posted: 06/14/2013 7:40 PM

RE: Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16 

I traveled to PNC for gsme 1 ... just back back to the hotel. Puig is fast. Cutch is good. Dodgers are not. Meh ...
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Posted: 06/15/2013 7:17 AM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16 

Gonzalez, Ramirez, and Ethier are the guys getting paid to drive in runs. They were 1 for 11, no extra-base hits, left 7 runners on. You won't win expecting your defensive players to do what your big bats can't.

Pitching wasn't sharp, but only 3 runs allowed. Another wasted opportunity for a Dodger win.
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Posted: 06/15/2013 7:37 AM

Re: Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16 

Dodgers have era of 3.83 -6th in NL.
SP ERA is 3.64 (6TH) but Beckett is gone and no more Magill for a while so ERA will get better. Cap pitched well yesterday so if he gives us his 3.6-4.0 ERA we will be a top 5 era for sp better than any West NL team. Greinke seems to have his mojo back.
RP era is now 4.18  (12th) and was much worse...
Belli has ERA of  4.35 and League is 5.35... disbelief
League has lost 3 games and blown 4 saves..bellli has lost 5 games and blown saves 4 games. We lead NL in blown saves with 14.
W/o both  guys we would be close to a .500 team.
Belli should stay on dl for a while; and League?? ML at best using him at minimum giving Withrow a shot to see if he can do OK - if so we finally have another player who throws hard like Brox and we can maybe dump League or Belli. IF he can do OK.
Our RP staff has hurt this team bad this yr.
Hitting will get better as players come back.
After asg i believe we will be playing better but hard to say if we can recover all the lost ground to win WCard.

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Posted: 06/15/2013 8:18 AM

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These guys keep playing like professional baseball players who don’t understand the possibility of winning, or care to win

Kind of like — we will lose the game one way or another.

Very few times this season do they step up . . . and go beyond themselves.

They look overmatched by average pitchers, by pitchers without much major league experience, and even should not be in the majors pitchers getting a start.

The Dodgers are now solidly one of the dog teams in the major leagues.

In the National League, only 4 other teams out of 15 are playing worse than the Dodgers:

Chicago Cubs 27-38 .415
Milwaukee 27-39 .409
New York Mets 24-38 .387
Miami 20-46 .303

In the American League only 1 team out of 15 is playing worse than the Dodgers:

Houston Astros 24-44 .353

Today the Dodgers play again at Pittsburgh, and the Dodger ace Clayton is starting. Against a TBA Pirate pitcher.

Oh, way to go Uribe, on swinging at that ball in the dirt with 2 runners on base late in the game last night. Way to have that hitting eye.

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Posted: 06/15/2013 11:41 AM

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Can these Dodger baseball players read. If not some read this article to them

Exercise-induced muscle cramps are painful, debilitating, and can take an athlete out of competition. They can occur in athletes in all types of sports and are usually associated with muscle fatigue and/or dehydration with an associated loss of electrolytes. It is not uncommon to see an athlete drop to the ground in agony near the end of a competition due to muscle cramps in his/her legs.

the muscle cramping is commonly seen in the gastrocnemius/soleus (lower leg) muscles and in the hamstring muscle groups.

even when the muscles are immediately stretched to relieve the muscle cramping, the cramping often returns as soon as the athlete engages the muscle. sometimes, it is even as soon as when the athlete takes his/her first step. because of the severity of the cramping, this condition can often end the day’s competition for the athlete.

what are the causes of muscle cramping?

according to a recent review of the literature on the causes of muscle cramps during exercise published by the american college of sports medicine (bergeron, 2008), there appear to be two possible causes for muscle cramping in athletes. although further research is needed to better understand the underlying physiology of both, the literature provides a basis for understanding the problem and how to prevent muscle cramps from occurring.

the first category of exercise associated muscle cramps is related to skeletal muscle overload and fatigue. according to this theory, the neuromuscular systems imbedded in the muscles for the purpose of maintaining safe control of muscle contraction are affected.

according to this theory, the part of the neuromuscular system that initiates contractions is increased (hyper-excitement of muscle spindles) while the part of the neuromuscular system that inhibits contractions is decreased (golgi tendon organ). with the golgi tendon organ inhibited, the muscle is inundated with messages to contract by the afferent muscle spindle (brings messages from the brain to the muscle).

muscles that are overused and fatigued may be at a higher risk for muscle cramping due to the effects of the fatigue on the neuromuscular system. what is unique about this type of muscle cramping is that it would only affect the specific muscles that are fatigued and one would not see a generalized system muscle cramping as one would see with a case of dehydration-based muscle cramping.

the second category of exercise-associated muscle cramps is better understood and commonly recognized as a cause of muscle cramping in athletes. the second type of cramping is caused by excessive sweat losses associated with a decreased level of electrolytes (specifically sodium).

electrolyte deficit-related muscle cramps are sometimes the first level (of three progressive conditions) associated with heat illness. the body has a complex system for cooling itself as the core temperature of the body begins to increase with exercise and an increase in the outdoor temperature.

the body primarily cools itself using two specific systems. the first is by redirecting its blood supply out towards the surface capillaries in the skin. as the blood is routed towards the surface, the blood is cooled as it travels just under the skin as it comes into contact with the ambient temperature. the second system is by sweating.

sweating cools the body by releasing the body’s water onto the skin’s surface. with evaporation of sweat, heat is transferred from the body through an exchange of energy to the air. as the athlete moves, the air comes across the moist skin and cools the body through convection. however, the process of sweating is typically the primary means of maintaining the body’s temperature in a safe range.

as the water and sodium content of the body decreases through sweating, the muscles can begin to systemically cramp. sodium is the key electrolyte in the formula because sodium helps the body to retain water, especially in the muscle fluid spaces. without a high enough concentration of sodium, the water that the athlete drinks is excreted without being distributed throughout all of the body’s fluid compartments.

the following tennismd video discusses managing your muscle cramps.
heat illness: stop cramping with salt!

what are electrolytes and why are they linked to muscle cramping?

electrolytes are minerals that dissolve in the body as electrically charged particles. they include sodium, chloride, magnesium, and potassium. electrolytes have a direct effect on muscle cramping because they regulate fluid balance, nerve conduction, and muscle contraction.

a common myth associated with treating muscle cramps is that the consumption of bananas can alleviate the cramping. although it is a commonly practiced "remedy", there is no evidence to support the use of bananas to effectively prevent or treat muscle cramps.

what might make an athlete more susceptible to muscle cramping?

factors that have been associated with increasing the risk of muscle cramping in overload or fatigue-related muscle cramping include the following:

• older age
• poor stretching habits
• insufficient conditioning
• cramping history
• excessive exercise intensity and duration
• metabolic disturbances

according to the research presented by bergeron (2008), several factors may be involved with causing muscle cramping in dehydrated athletes with sodium deficits. these factors directly affect the body’s sodium content. they include:

• sweat rate of the athlete
• sweat sodium concentration of the athlete
• dietary intake of the athlete

the importance of these factors is that they are absolutely unique to the individual athlete. some athletes are prone to cramping and others are not. the answer lies in the factors listed above.

some athletes just sweat a lot. while performing the same level of activity, some athletes will be dripping with sweat and others will be relatively dry. this can be seen in both genders. if an athlete has a high sweat rate during activity, this athlete may be susceptible and be at greater risk for muscle cramping.

sweat sodium concentration is another factor that is unique to the individual athlete, that is, the amount of sodium contained in the athlete’s sweat. some athletes have a high sweat sodium concentration. these athletes may actually leave salt residue on their skin or clothes after a workout. if an athlete has a higher sweat sodium concentration, this athlete may also be susceptible and be at risk for muscle cramping.

although other electrolytes are lost in sweat, their concentration and consequent total loss via sweating is not enough to prompt muscle cramping or other problems.

the electrolytes most commonly blamed for muscle cramping include calcium, magnesium, and potassium. however, the review of the literature by bergeron (2008) did not substantiate any of these electrolytes as possible causes of muscle cramping.

how can i treat muscle cramps?

the effective treatment of muscle cramps is dependent on the cause. for athletes suffering from overuse or fatigue muscle cramps, the most effective treatments are passive stretching, massage, icing of the affected muscles, and contraction of the muscle on the opposite side of the muscle cramping (i.e., if the hamstring is cramping, contract the quadriceps muscle group to relax the hamstring muscle group).

contracting the muscle opposing the cramping muscle is based on the physiological principle of reciprocal inhibition. when a muscle contracts (agonist) the opposite muscle (antagonist) automatically relaxes to allow for the contraction.

athletes suffering from fatigue-related muscle cramps will not be able to continue their activity without further cramping. these athletes need time for their muscles to heal and recover before trying to compete again.

for athletes suffering from muscle cramps prompted by excessive sweating and a sodium deficit, the same treatments as above can be immediately applied to reduce the pain and muscle spasm. however, along with the stretching, massage, and applied ice, these athletes need to consume fluids with additional sodium.

click the following link to play video on proper hydration.
hydration in sports

according to bergeron’s (2008) research, immediate consumption of a “.5l carbohydrate-electrolyte drink with 3.0g of salt added and thoroughly mixed consumed all at once or over 5 – 10 minutes” has proven successful at relieving muscle cramps and preventing future severe cramping. as the cramping resolves, these athletes may be able to continue competing at their normal intensity.

how much should i drink after a competition if i had muscle cramping?

once the activity is completed, the athlete needs to continue to consume electrolyte-containing fluids. according to mcardle, w.d., katch, f.i. & katch, v.l. (2006), prolonged exercise and sweat loss can deplete the body of “13 to 17g of salt (2.3 to 3.4 g per l of sweat). sodium can be replaced by adding about one-third teaspoon of salt per one liter of water.

the goal after exercise is to replace the water and electrolytes lost during the activity. one method to determining the amount of fluid lost is to weigh the athlete before and after activity. this is good practice, especially in hot temperatures to help prevent serious heat illness in the athletes from accumulating water deficits.

how much should i drink before an activity to prevent muscle cramping?

because thirst is not often a sufficient stimulus to maintain adequate fluid balance during exercise, adequate fluids need to be consumed prior to exercising.

the athlete should maintain good hydration at all times. to assist in adequate hydration during exercise, the athlete should consume 17 – 20 ounces of water or sports drink 2 to 3 hours before the activity. if possible, another 7 – 10 ounces should be consumed 10 – 20 minutes before the activity.

however, unless the fluids contain a sufficient amount of sodium, “excess fluid intake merely increases urine output” (mcardle, w., katch, f.i., & katch, v. l., 2006) and will not be retained by the body.

the following tennismd video gives tips on proper hydration before competition.
pre-hydration. better planning equals better play

how much should i drink during an activity to prevent muscle cramping?

although historically, coaches may have withheld water as a punishment for their athletes, it is currently supported by the sports medicine community that athletes should have access to water throughout their activity. if water is not provided by the coach/school, young athletes should bring their own water bottle labeled with their name.

to maintain hydration, it is recommended that adult athletes drink up to 1.5 L or about 50 ounces per hour. If athletes are prone to excessive sweating and sodium loss, this may need to be increased on an individual basis.

Again, because thirst is not often a sufficient stimulus to maintain adequate fluid balance during exercise in the heat, coaches need to be proactive in ensuring that their athletes replenish their fluids on a consistent basis.

Because of the life-threatening nature of dehydration leading to heat illness, coaches that withhold water should be confronted about the dangerous practice and reported to the administration of the sports organization. Withholding water from athletes is considered a form of athlete abuse and should not be tolerated at any age level.

The following TennisMD video gives tips on hydration during competition.
On-Court Hydration. Replace What You Lose!

Can the use of diuretics affect exertional muscle cramping?

Diuretics are contraindicated for an individual who is active and participating in sports. Diuretics can increase the body’s fluid loss and contribute to dehydration. While there are prescription diuretics that can be taken to reduce body fluids, athletes may be consuming products that act as diuretics and not be aware of it.

As a coach, what can I do to reduce the risk of dehydration in my athletes?

Preventing dehydration and muscle cramps in athletes starts with educating the athletes and their parents as to the importance of adequate hydration before, during, and after activity.

Just as important as adequate volume of fluid intake is the appropriate types of beverages athletes should drink before, during, and after exercise. Water can be sufficient in many cases and circumstances; but as sweat losses increase, the sodium content of the rehydration beverage becomes more important.

Strategies that coaches can implement to reduce the risk of dehydration include:

• Encourage the athletes to refrain from drinking caffeinated beverages including sodas, coffee drinks, and tea
• Educate the athletes and their parents as to the dangers of consuming energy drinks loaded with high levels of caffeine and its affect on the athlete’s body
• Have unlimited water available during practice/competition
• Record pre and post-exercise weight to determine if excessive and unsafe weight loss has occurred
• Replenish lost fluid with up to 20 ounces of fluid for every pound of body weight lost
• Encourage sports drinks in sports that are endurance- based rather than just water
• Monitor athletes closely on hot days looking for signs of possible heat illness
• Reduce risk of heat illness by reducing equipment worn during practice and by changing practice times

If you suspect you have problems with muscle cramps during exercise, it is critical to seek the urgent consultation of a local sports injuries doctor for appropriate care. To locate a top doctor or physical therapist in your area, please visit our Find a Sports Medicine Doctor or Physical Therapist Near You section.

Eat Bananas till they come out your ears.

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Posted: 06/15/2013 1:20 PM

RE: Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16 

wow bottom of the first. Can anyone tell how this game is going to go? I think I can turn off the TV now and go take an afternoon nap.
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Posted: 06/15/2013 1:26 PM

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Posted: 06/15/2013 1:29 PM

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Hey folks, don't be to hard on these Dodgers -- they are playing a really good team.

Dodgers have their ace going, who might or might not make it out of the first inning.
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Posted: 06/15/2013 1:35 PM

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TexasDodger wrote: Hey folks, don't be to hard on these Dodgers -- they are playing a really good team.

Dodgers have their ace going, who might or might not make it out of the first inning.

They are playing a really good team that did what 2 years ago? That's right completely dismantled the team and cut all it's salary. Now look at what the low salary is doing to this 200 million dollar payroll.....makes me sick.
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Posted: 06/15/2013 1:44 PM

RE: Dodgers at Pirates...6/14-16 

This team is a F'n joke!!! They don't play hard and they dont play smart. Donnie Boy needs to be GONE!!! They need a manager that will light a fire under their ass!!! They are to busy worried about their gold neckles and how pretty they look. Other teams come out and look to kick our asses...PERIOD!! Im tired of watching all the errors, blown saves and lack of offense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 06/15/2013 1:55 PM

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Cumpton is not that good..come on guys wake up .The guy is hittable he is not Cy Young. Next time around Puig and Agon gotta do better than embarrassing 1st inning.
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