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Posted: 12/11/2012 8:14 PM

MLB (Non-Dodger) News, Rumors, Trades, Etc. 


I wanted to start a Non-Dodger thread like we used to have since the Dodger one is filling the 100 pages quick w/ everything lumped into one thread.

8:12pm: The Diamondbacks announced that they have acquired shortstop Didi Gregorius, left-handed pitcher Tony Sipp, and first baseman Lars Anderson from the Indians in exchange for right-handed pitchers Trevor Bauer, Matt Albers and Bryan Shaw.  The Reds are receiving Shin-Soo Choo and Jason Donald in the swap.  The Indians will send the Reds approximately $3.5MM to account for the differences in projected salaries between Choo and Stubbs, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter).
Arizona is another team to watch in the NL.  They have solidified their weaknesses and should be a solid contender next year.  Its not going to be easy to win the NL West or get a Wildcard spot.  There are some solid teams.

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Posted: 12/12/2012 6:25 AM

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I actually think the D-Backs got the short end of the stick on that one.  Albers had a good year last year and Bauer is a clear #2 if not a #1 starter in the near future.  Maybe he had so attitude problems, but you fix them, you don't sell him for ten cents on the dollar.  Sipp and Anderson are just filler and Gregorius although outstanding defensively his bat is questionable in the majors until her learns better patience.
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Posted: 12/12/2012 6:27 AM

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I don't really get what the DBacks are doing with this trade.  Trevor Bauer was the 3rd pick in the draft just a year ago and was their 2012 minor league pitcher of the year.  This guy is a top 10 prospect in baseball and they get a so-so lefty reliever, Lars Anderson who flamed out of the Boston system and looks like a bench bat at best, and Didi Gregorius a defense first SS who barely OPS'ed .700 in AA/AAA this year.  At first glance I think this is a huge loser of a trade for Arizona.

Just the facts.

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Posted: 12/12/2012 11:57 AM

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Royals agreed to terms with LHP George Sherrill, RHP Dan Wheeler and OF Willy Taveras on minor league contracts. 

That is some good dumpster diving there.
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Posted: 12/12/2012 7:10 PM

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MLB.com has in depth video on the various trade breakdown and the players involved such as the discussion of what the D-back see in Gregorius to give up Bauer, check it out:
http://mlbnetwork.mlb.com/vide...ent_id=25524247
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Posted: 12/13/2012 10:20 AM

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Early, early rumblings throughout the twitter world make it sound like the Angels are about to sign Josh Hamilton. No idea how that would work (I'd guess they'd play him in RF), but that lineup would look ridiculous.

1. Trout CF
2. Kendricks 2B
3. Pujols 1B
4. Hamilton RF
5. Trumbo LF
6. Morales DH
7. Callaspo 3B (or Jimenez)
8. Iannetta C
9. Aybar SS
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Posted: 12/13/2012 11:32 AM

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marinatedfreak wrote: Early, early rumblings throughout the twitter world make it sound like the Angels are about to sign Josh Hamilton. No idea how that would work (I'd guess they'd play him in RF), but that lineup would look ridiculous.

1. Trout CF
2. Kendricks 2B
3. Pujols 1B
4. Hamilton RF
5. Trumbo LF
6. Morales DH
7. Callaspo 3B (or Jimenez)
8. Iannetta C
9. Aybar SS
The Angels operate in stealth-like mode again.  The Rangers are really disciplined when it comes to not overspending on their own free agents.  The Rangers will receive Angels will have to surrender their top pick (#22 overall) in 2013.  This move is a double plus for the Angels since it both adds to their lineup and takes away a huge part of their biggest rival.  First C.J. Wilson and now Hamilton.  The Rangers must have a counter move in mind.  They really should have signed B.J. Upton to that 5yr., $75 million contract that the Braves got him for but they were too occupied w/ Greinke and Justin Upton.  This would be the perfect time to trade Ethier to them for Mike Olt.  The Dodgers could make due w/ a short term deal for someone like Cody Ross who would be holding down the fort till Puig/Joc Perterson is ready.

"Texas GM Jon Daniels is not pleased with the way the negotiations ended, Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports (on Twitter). The GM did not get a call to match Los Angeles' offer, as expected. Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the Rangers had been willing to offer four years to retain Hamilton (Twitterlink)."
I think Hamilton was peeved by the way the Rangers laid back expecting that they would let others define the market and they could decide to match and Hamilton would take it.  I predict the Angels give Hamilton a 5-yr, $125 million contract.

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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:47 PM

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I think the outcry from Angel fans after the Dodgers signed Greinke put a bee in Arte Moreno's bonnet.  This is a crazy signing.  They needed Greinke in there rotation way more than they needed Hamiliton in the middle of the order. 

They will obviously have to trade an outfielder.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 12:59 PM

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PWReese wrote: I think the outcry from Angel fans after the Dodgers signed Greinke put a bee in Arte Moreno's bonnet.  This is a crazy signing.  They needed Greinke in there rotation way more than they needed Hamiliton in the middle of the order. 

They will obviously have to trade an outfielder.
They seem keen on keeping Trumbo. I think part of that is they realize how dumb they were for not trading him when his value was sky high.

Bourjos seems to be a given for a trade. Morales is my bet for most likely. Some team will give up something for him.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 2:55 PM

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Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the Cubs have agreed to sign free agent right-hander Anibal Sanchez.

Another Hot Stove stunner on this Thursday afternoon. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports hears that the deal could be worth $75 million over five years. It's a pretty shocking destination, as the Cubs are just getting started on a serious rebuilding effort. Sanchez turns 29 in February and owns a 3.75 ERA over seven seasons in the majors.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 3:52 PM

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I am certain to be investing heavily in the Angels this year for fantasy purposes.

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Posted: 12/13/2012 6:21 PM

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I find the reactions to the Angels Hamilton signings interesting, especially from Tori Hunter:
  • An American League executive called the move "last-second knee-jerk stupidity" on the part of the Angels, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (Twitter links). However, an NL executive called it a "brilliant move" since the Angels obtained the best player available and added balance to a largely right-handed lineup.
  • Former Angels outfielder Torii Hunter had some sharp words regarding his free agent talks with the Angels and owner Arte Moreno (Twitter links). I was told money was tight but I guess the Arte had money hidden under a Mattress,” Hunter wrote. “Business is business but don't lie.” Hunter clarified in a follow-up tweet that he’s “not upset.”
  • One American League executive told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark that the Rangers made the "fatal mistake" of believing no team would go beyond four years for Hamilton.  Also from Stark, Moreno's tactic of making take it-or-leave it offers prevented Hamilton from going back to the Rangers to give them a chance to top Anaheim's offer (Twitter links)
  • Though Rangers GM Jon Daniels will face public criticism for letting Hamilton get away to a division rival, Daniels is being "privately lauded" by other general managers for parting ways with Hamilton, tweets ESPN's Buster Olney
  • Also from Olney (Twitter link), "Hamilton's medical records have been a concern for other teams."
  • Yahoo Sports' Kevin Kaduk runs down the winners and losers of the Hamilton signing.
  • The signing looks like "an impulse buy" for Moreno and the Halos, as the team reportedly didn't even discuss signing Hamilton during the Winter Meetings, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  Rosenthal's colleague Jon Paul Morosi reports that the Angels did meet with Hamilton during the Winter Meetings, though it was kept quiet enough that some within the organization didn't even know the meeting took place (Twitter links).
  • The Angels know they'll have to trade from their position player depth, but aren't close to any deals yet, Yahoo's Tim Brown reports (on Twitter).
  • The Rangers are "really shaken" by losing Hamilton, especially after being unable to sign Zack Greinke or work out trades for Justin Upton or James Shields, writes CBS Sports' Danny Knobler (via Twitter).  "Fair to say they don't love any [other] options out there," Knobler adds.
  • The Hamilton signing elevates the Angels/Rangers rivalry to an even higher level, writes Yahoo's Jeff Passan.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 8:18 PM

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Angels are the favorites by a landslide, imo. No Hamilton, Napoli, or Young. Suddenly that Rangers offense doesn't look so intimidating anymore.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 6:28 AM

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Meh, I don't think it is a great signing for the Angels.  I do think the Rangers were done with Hamilton or at least weren't sure they wanted to sign him or not.  This situation took the pressure off them.  The Angels have a great softball lineup, that pitching however is going to require them to outscore teams, we all know how that works out in the end. 

Big question is which Hamilton are they getting, guy was like three different players last year, good guy MVP,   Rob Deer , or team distraction mess.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 6:54 AM

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The Angels could have made Tori Hunter a qualifying offer ($13.3 million) and had him back for one year.  What would you rather have, no risk, good guy Tori Hunter for one year or high drug and alcohol risk, high injury risk Josh Hamilton for 5 years at $25 million per year?  This could turn out great for the Angels (they need a left handed presence in that lineup) but it could also be a huge disaster.  If I were them I would have spent this kind of money on keeping Greinke.  It's almost like Arte Moreno's ego got in the way again and he just had to do something to outdo the Dodgers.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 7:47 AM

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Annibal Sanchez to the Cubs?  That is an odd move for them.

Ooops, nevermind.  Detroit for 80 million over five. Makes much more sense.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:56 AM

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haji81872 wrote: Meh, I don't think it is a great signing for the Angels.  I do think the Rangers were done with Hamilton or at least weren't sure they wanted to sign him or not.  This situation took the pressure off them.  The Angels have a great softball lineup, that pitching however is going to require them to outscore teams, we all know how that works out in the end. 

Big question is which Hamilton are they getting, guy was like three different players last year, good guy MVP,   Rob Deer , or team distraction mess.
It's a great signing short term that provides them with a lineup that rivals the 2004 Red Sox in terms of offensive potential. It also doesn't hurt that it pretty much makes their main rival Texas very questionable heading into 2013 and beyond. They're going to need that offense given that Joe Blanton is their #4 starter.

It's a bad signing for the last 2 or 3 years. That's where the risk is very high. However, it should be noted that they're still $20 mil under the luxury tax. It's high risk-high reward, but the tipping point being the headlines and decimating the Rangers is what swung this deal for Arte, IMO.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 11:31 AM

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The Mets are selling high on R.A. Dickey after the 38-year-old knuckleballer's Cy Young season. They have agreed in principle to a trade that will send Dickey to the Blue Jays, Ken Rosenthal reports (on Twitter). The deal is contingent on Toronto being able to work out a contract extension with Dickey and they'll have a negotiating window of 72 hours, expiring Tuesday at 1pm CST (Twitter link).

R.A. Dickey - Mets (PW)Last night, the deal was said to be a three-for-four swap with Dickey, Josh Thole, and a prospect going to Toronto for Travis d'Arnaud, Noah Syndergaard, John Buck, and a prospect. Neither prospect is expected to be of exceptionally high quality.


Good trade for both sides especially if the Jays extend Dickey.  The Mets get the best catching prospects in the minors to help rebuild their team.  The Jays expect to contend for a playoff spot and only need better and more reliable pitching.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 2:34 PM

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Mariners acquired DH Kendrys Morales from the Angels for RHP Jason Vargas.

Morales wasn't going to get much playing time in Anaheim next season with Albert Pujols entrenched at first base and Mark Trumbo locked in at designated hitter. This trade frees him up to be an everyday player and should be a real boost to his fantasy value. Kendrys slugged 22 home runs in 134 games this summer for the Angels. He's a .292/.346/.558 career hitter at Safeco Field.

I thought the Angels could get more for him.  Interesting that the trade happened within the same division. Usually that only happen sat trade deadline. 
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Posted: 12/19/2012 3:42 PM

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Angels got nice #4 starter who will be their 3rd pitcher. Back of the rotation is slightly improved, but is still very weak.
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