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Posted: 1/14/2013 9:28 PM

Lance Armstrong 


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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:46 AM

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Doesn't bother me.  Everyone in cycling is dirty.

Are we really that angry that he doped up and beat a bunch of frogs at a sport as lame as cycling?  Not to mention, that a lot of the story reads like the Crucible. 

Now, if we find out that there is widespread doping in curling, that could be heartbreaking.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 9:53 AM

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I just can't believe people are shocked by this. In the past 10 years nearly EVERY SINGLE cyclist that has won has been caught doping. If you really beleive that in a sport where EVERYONE is cheating there is one man who can beat all of them for 7 years while being clean, well, you are a dipsh!t.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:04 AM

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He cheated better than the other cheaters.

The doping doesn't bother me as much as him belittling, berating, and just demolishing anyone who doubted his innocence. He's an egotistical jackwagon who only came clean after a mountain of evidence was dropped in his lap.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:10 AM

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RockChalkOmaHawk wrote: He cheated better than the other cheaters.

The doping doesn't bother me as much as him belittling, berating, and just demolishing anyone who doubted his innocence. He's an egotistical jackwagon who only came clean after a mountain of evidence was dropped in his lap.

That's everyone who ever doped/used PEDs except for Canseco who came clean after he "needed some fast cash".

I'm starting to be of the mind that PEDs are just a manufactured issue for the sports media to give the public something to get indignant about. 

Also, I really want to hear an athlete come out and say "I was pretty good at my sport, but used PEDs to become an all-time great.  I made a ton of money, setting my family up for a couple of generations.  The championships were pretty cool too."

Bonus points if he pisses on Murray Chass's grave.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:56 AM

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I'm pretty confused about people being all indignant about this issue in general.  As ChiTown said, anytime you give someone the opportunity to earn millions of dollars and be a true star, why would anyone be surprised if they take it? 

Pro sports is as competative as it gets.  The vast majority of these guys are looking for any possible edge they can get.  That's a very jaded opinion, I understand that.  But the simple fact is, I KNOW it's happening in just about any sport where a player can gain a competative advantage by using.  It's not just a modern issue either, it's been going on ever since our society (or any society) started making atheletes highly paid and/or respected and famous. 

When it is specifically against the rules and a player gets caught, they deserve to be blackballed as a cheater.  When it isn't specifically against the rules, then why be indignant?  When it isn't proven, why assume for some but not others?

That's more about the recent Hall of Fame vote than about Armstrong I suppose, but the steroid issue is pretty rampant in general in sports.  Armstrong in particular I don't have very strong feeling about one way or another, as I could really give a crap less about Pro Cycling.  They could all be using, or none of them, and I just don't care I suppose.  But if EVERYONE who wins is using as I've seen posted in this thread.....why would this surprise anyone?  And why would anyone who thinks cheating is wrong follow the sport?
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Posted: 1/15/2013 12:22 PM

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SpringtownRoyal wrote: I just can't believe people are shocked by this. In the past 10 years nearly EVERY SINGLE cyclist that has won has been caught doping. If you really beleive that in a sport where EVERYONE is cheating there is one man who can beat all of them for 7 years while being clean, well, you are a dipsh!t.

Armstrong used his power, media access and fake prestige to ruin/sully everyone who even whispered he used PEDs.  It would be one thing if his PED denial was a victimless crime, but it wasn't.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 1:56 PM

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phatcat43 wrote:
Armstrong used his power, media access and fake prestige to ruin/sully everyone who even whispered he used PEDs.  It would be one thing if his PED denial was a victimless crime, but it wasn't.
Yup. I couldn't care less about what he used or how he doped, or cycling in general.

I find him detestable because of how he maliciously tried to destroy anyone who tried to out him as the fraud that he ultimately was.


Stupid science bitch couldn't even make I more smarter!
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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:04 PM

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I knew he was doping. He's a d-bag because of the way he's handling his admission of guilt:

a) only after EVERYONE (even really dumb people) knew it
b) using Oprah as the venue
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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:17 PM

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How is Lance Armstrong knowingly falsely suing a newspaper for libel and extorting a huge settlement any different than him going to that same office in the middle of the night and simply stealing the money?

Morally, I see no difference.

In my mind, he shouldn't just be a pariah. He should be behind bars.


Stupid science bitch couldn't even make I more smarter!
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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:31 PM

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RoyalsCorner wrote: How is Lance Armstrong knowingly falsely suing a newspaper for libel and extorting a huge settlement any different than him going to that same office in the middle of the night and simply stealing the money?

Morally, I see no difference.

In my mind, he shouldn't just be a pariah. He should be behind bars.
One of them takes enormous brass ball.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 2:35 PM

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SpringtownRoyal wrote: I just can't believe people are shocked by this. In the past 10 years nearly EVERY SINGLE cyclist that has won has been caught doping. If you really beleive that in a sport where EVERYONE is cheating there is one man who can beat all of them for 7 years while being clean, well, you are a dipsh!t.

Armstrong used his power, media access and fake prestige to ruin/sully everyone who even whispered he used PEDs.  It would be one thing if his PED denial was a victimless crime, but it wasn't.

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Ah, this is something I wasn't aware of.

That would make him a total d-bag.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 3:09 PM

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I hope no one thinks I like Lance Armstrong, as I've long thought him to be an assbag.  Also, I've long thought cycling is pretty f'ing lame. 

And I recognize, that his actions around using PEDs that have been mentioned are what make him a POS. 

People who cover/watch sports though, really need to get over the glorification of the good ol' days, the purity of yesteryear, of the days of yore. 

This is just another overdone type of story to help fill the 24 hour news cycle.
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Posted: 1/15/2013 6:37 PM

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Oprah's a d bag for letting him use her show.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 1:49 AM

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I'm wondering exactly what he says. In the articles I've read, Oprah states that Lance confesses but "not in the way people think." I wonder what the hell that means.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 3:46 AM

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Posted: 1/16/2013 9:59 AM

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Have you seen the soft drink can with Lance on it called Mr Fibb ?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 10:55 AM

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KanoBurger wrote: I'm wondering exactly what he says. In the articles I've read, Oprah states that Lance confesses but "not in the way people think." I wonder what the hell that means.
I'm guessing he admits to doping but places blame on others and hypes the foundation's money raised.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 10:56 AM

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ChiTownRoyalsFan wrote: I hope no one thinks I like Lance Armstrong, as I've long thought him to be an assbag.  Also, I've long thought cycling is pretty f'ing lame. 

And I recognize, that his actions around using PEDs that have been mentioned are what make him a POS. 

People who cover/watch sports though, really need to get over the glorification of the good ol' days, the purity of yesteryear, of the days of yore. 

This is just another overdone type of story to help fill the 24 hour news cycle.
Are you referencing Buzz Bissinger here?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/26/b uzz-bissinger-still-believes-in-lance-armstrong.ht ml
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Posted: 1/17/2013 2:12 PM

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I love that this is crashing down around him. I've never liked the the uniballer. People used to wonder why I hated the guy. I just have an awesome d-bag radar I guess.
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