The Kansas City Royals have declined 2010 options for outfielder Coco Crisp, catcher Miguel Olivo and right-handed pitcher Yasuhiko Yabuta.  Crisp and Olivo are now eligible to file for free agency.  Yabuta can elect free agency if he doesn’t sign a 2010 Major League contract with the Royals by November 16.

If John Buck is our catcher, I'm going to stab someone!

Creightonfan1 wrote:

If John Buck is our catcher, I'm going to stab someone!

Are you going to stab John Buck?

Teahen - 4 mill

Olivo - approx 4 mil.

Yabuta - 4 mil.

Crisp - neg. 500k

did we just save 11.5 million?

and dear god...did we just give the starting job BACK to Buck?

ChiTownRoyalsFan wrote:

 

Creightonfan1 wrote:

If John Buck is our catcher, I'm going to stab someone!

Are you going to stab John Buck?

I'm going to cut the back of his hamstring... He will start pushing everything to the right... He'll quit the game!

Creightonfan1 wrote:

 

ChiTownRoyalsFan wrote:

 

Creightonfan1 wrote:

If John Buck is our catcher, I'm going to stab someone!

Are you going to stab John Buck?

I'm going to cut the back of his hamstring... He will start pushing everything to the right... He'll quit the game!

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edit: ok what did i do wrong here?

What?!?!?  KK knows EVERYTHING about the Royals, and he guaranteed we'd bring back Olivo multiple times in every gameday thread last season.

RoyalsChristopher wrote:

What?!?!?  KK knows EVERYTHING about the Royals, and he guaranteed we'd bring back Olivo multiple times in every gameday thread last season.

Glad to be wrong. Hopefully Jacobs is next.

KennyPowers wrote:

Teahen - 4 mill

Olivo - approx 4 mil.

Yabuta - 4 mil.

Crisp - neg. 500k

 

did we just save 11.5 million?

 

and dear god...did we just give the starting job BACK to Buck?

I don't think you can look at it like that. Crisp, Yabuta and Olivo weren't coming back, so their overall contracts probably never figured into the discussion in the 2010 budget.  By my rough calculations, even with the buyouts of the options, the Royals were going to be on the hook for around $80 million in 2010.  That was before the Teahen deal.

We do know the Royals owe Crisp $500,000, Olivo $100,000 and Yabuta $500,000.  And we know the Royals sent cash to the White Sox in the Teahen deal - we just don't know how much.  So for now, we're paying over $1 million to four players who are not playing on our team.

this does not mean that Olivo is gone though...

so he could be back

RoyalsChristopher wrote:

What?!?!?  KK knows EVERYTHING about the Royals, and he guaranteed we'd bring back Olivo multiple times in every gameday thread last season.

with olivo wanting a long term deal, and reports he wants to hit a weak catchers market...i'd have to expect he is gone..

KennyPowers wrote:

with olivo wanting a long term deal, and reports he wants to hit a weak catchers market...i'd have to expect he is gone..

I expect a sweet draft pick

tanana wrote:

this does not mean that Olivo is gone though...

 

so he could be back

RoyalsChristopher wrote:

What?!?!?  KK knows EVERYTHING about the Royals, and he guaranteed we'd bring back Olivo multiple times in every gameday thread last season.

 

A number of us have been saying this for awhile, that the Royals would decline Olvio's 2010 option and offer him arb (as long as they hear serious rumblings about other teams having interest in signing Olivo) in hopes of picking up a supplemental draft pick next year.

KennyPowers wrote:

Teahen - 4 mill

Olivo - approx 4 mil.

Yabuta - 4 mil.

Crisp - neg. 500k

 

did we just save 11.5 million?

 

and dear god...did we just give the starting job BACK to Buck?

I believe I've been seeing stuff that we are going in a completely different direction on this and getting rid of both Buck and Olivo (thing is Olivo was likely never going to sign with us) so I assume that we declinced the option to pay him $100K so we could offer arb so that we would get a supplemental pick when he goes, correct?  or otherwise not picking up the option doesn't make sense if you are pretty certain he's going on the free agent market.

So given the weak market, are we planning for a Pena starting catcher and Pina as the backup?

RoyalsChristopher wrote:

What?!?!?  KK knows EVERYTHING about the Royals, and he guaranteed we'd bring back Olivo multiple times in every gameday thread last season.

True, and KK also knows that Buck is a league average catcher, basestealing doesn't matter anyway, so Buck is perfectly fine, and will retire as a Royal after 15 seasons posting a .225 batting average and throwing out 8% of baserunners (those who trip or are mocking him on the way to 2nd). The Teahen fantasy is gone, but Buck will never go away.

TheRealElGuapo wrote:

 

RoyalsChristopher wrote:

What?!?!?  KK knows EVERYTHING about the Royals, and he guaranteed we'd bring back Olivo multiple times in every gameday thread last season.

True, and KK also knows that Buck is a league average catcher, basestealing doesn't matter anyway, so Buck is perfectly fine, and will retire as a Royal after 15 seasons posting a .225 batting average and throwing out 8% of baserunners (those who trip or are mocking him on the way to 2nd). The Teahen fantasy is gone, but Buck will never go away.

I want both Buck and Olivo gone. I have made that perfectly clear. I think Buck is better than Olivo, but they both suck.

Are they ever going to fix the arb process?  Some guys get bigger contracts in arb than they would in free agency.  Nobody would pay $5M+ for Mark Teahen on the open market yet he stands to earn that in arb.

IMO the Royals must have a deal in the works for Buck. He and Olivo are the same festering mess but with different stenches... The one thing working for these two is that there are very few hitting catchers, let alone good young catchers. Any of them that can hit are switched over to another position to improve their hitting output.  Pena can hit and we can get a back-up for less than what Buck-o will cost.

Either way, if Buck doesn't follow Olivo out of KC, DM should have his head examined.

Imagine if Teahen were to add catcher to his resume? A catcher who hits left handed and to the opposite field...