Posted: 4/2/2013 8:30 AM
Last edited 7/10/2013 8:38 AM by MHBDemon
Posted: 4/2/2013 8:39 AM
MHBDemon wrote: Because why not?2013RoyalsShields - 0.1 fWARDavisE. JohnsonTotal - 0.1 fWARRaysMyersOdorizziMontgomeryLeonardTotal -
Posted: 4/2/2013 8:53 AM
Posted: 4/2/2013 8:58 AM
banker5 wrote: You also have to add Hoch, Chen, and Frenchy into the equation.Myers may end up with a higher war than Shields (don't think that will happen though) but what would hoch and chen do to the rotation? Then you have to add (or subtract) frenchy final war as well. I don't think you can say we would have bought a few pitchers better than hoch and chen. I think that's why we made the trade. We tried getting a few guys during the winter meetings, it didn't happen, so we traded. That's how I remember it. I may be wrong.
Posted: 4/2/2013 9:13 AM
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Posted: 4/2/2013 11:08 AM
Posted: 4/2/2013 11:10 AM
kerg01 wrote: In the defense of most of the haters for the trade, you would have to keep tracking this for six years.......
Posted: 4/2/2013 11:17 AM
Posted: 4/2/2013 11:41 AM
Posted: 4/2/2013 11:53 AM
BurgRoyal wrote: What we saw yesterday from Shields is why he is a great pitcher. He is able to battle through and only give up 1ER because he didn't walk a person. That's what makes him an elite pitcher, he very rarely beats himself. Our pitching staff will have the opportunity to learn a tremendous amount from him this season. That influence will not be able to be quantitatively broken down by WAR. People and influence are more complex than simple statistics.
Posted: 4/2/2013 12:34 PM
Posted: 4/2/2013 12:36 PM
Gbwoy wrote: i dont think WAR is precise enough to really give us a read on the trade.Whether we win or lose the trade is defined by our record over the next two years. We either make a run or two at the playoffs, or we are mediocre. So basically, what Myers does from this point is irrelevant. If we bought a playoff berth, then we win even if Myers becomes a MVP candidate to me.
Posted: 4/2/2013 1:12 PM
banker5 wrote: I was just trying to say compare all the wars together and see where we come out at.You're right though, it will get sloppy. If its close, I say we win, because the alternative would have been chen and hoch which would have dropped us in total war. I hope its not that close though. I have a question, Demon..What will be your opinion of the trade for this year if frenchy has a season like 2011 and the rest of the guys (shields, davis, johnson) perform like expected?
Posted: 4/2/2013 1:54 PM
Posted: 4/2/2013 2:14 PM
gilmeche55 wrote: It's still an awful trade and I am predicting it gets Dayton fired. Shields will pitch like a #2 starter and the Royals wont have a winning record the next two years and Myers will be an above average RF for 7 years in Tampa.But hey, I liked the Kottaras pickup.
Posted: 4/2/2013 2:25 PM
Posted: 4/2/2013 2:28 PM
greewe wrote: gilmeche55 wrote: It's still an awful trade and I am predicting it gets Dayton fired. Shields will pitch like a #2 starter and the Royals wont have a winning record the next two years and Myers will be an above average RF for 7 years in Tampa.But hey, I liked the Kottaras pickup. If Shields pitches like a #2 starter, and Myers is just an above average RF, the trade is a wash. What good does an above averge RF do on a team with no pitching?
Last edited 4/2/2013 2:37 PM by ThrasherPinkston
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