http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/mariners-os- displaying-strong-interest-in-butler.html

Unless it's Bundy, gotta pray for Seattle.

If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

If Seattle was really wanting Napoli then today helped Billy's value

Dutton just tweeted that O's aren't trading Bundy and M's aren't trading Felix. Next.

wilson123 wrote: If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

LOL What a joke. Butler is a DH and that's it. Only 15 teams would want him.

Just like we aren't trading Myers

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--- AThomp wrote:

Dutton just tweeted that O's aren't trading Bundy and M's aren't trading Felix. Next.

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Right, and BAL is one of them. Two prospects for a proven all-star caliber hitter? Sounds about right to me.

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--- AntiCassel wrote:

wilson123 wrote: If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

LOL What a joke. Butler is a DH and that's it. Only 15 teams would want him.

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AntiCassel wrote:

wilson123 wrote: If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

LOL What a joke. Butler is a DH and that's it. Only 15 teams would want him.

Baltimore: "LOL, Butler sucks. Totally overrated...btw, can we trade for him?"

RockChalkOmaHawk wrote:

AntiCassel wrote:

wilson123 wrote: If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

LOL What a joke. Butler is a DH and that's it. Only 15 teams would want him.

Baltimore: "LOL, Butler sucks. Totally overrated...btw, can we trade for him?"

No Butler is a great player just has little value as a DH hate to break this to you.

AntiCassel wrote:

RockChalkOmaHawk wrote:

AntiCassel wrote:

wilson123 wrote: If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

LOL What a joke. Butler is a DH and that's it. Only 15 teams would want him.

Baltimore: "LOL, Butler sucks. Totally overrated...btw, can we trade for him?"

No Butler is a great player just has little value as a DH hate to break this to you.

And Bundy is a totally unproven prospect. Hate to break this to you.

AntiCassel wrote:

RockChalkOmaHawk wrote:

AntiCassel wrote:

wilson123 wrote: If they gave us Bundy and Gausman, I would trade Butler.

LOL What a joke. Butler is a DH and that's it. Only 15 teams would want him.

Baltimore: "LOL, Butler sucks. Totally overrated...btw, can we trade for him?"

No Butler is a great player just has little value as a DH hate to break this to you.

That would explain logically then why your team wants him. Gotcha.

Or that Seattle 'covets' him. The whole 'little value' thing..Thanks for clearing that up. Hey, should check out the O's board..bet ya a bunch of stuff to talk about there. All day..every day.

I get to say it again. Butler for hultzen and walker.

jerdrew22 wrote: I get to say it again. Butler for hultzen and walker.

I think they have to figure out a way to get Montero back in the deal. helps fill the hole at DH left by billy. Maybe a Montero and walker or Hutlzen for Butler and maybe more on our side...

that also unloads a significant salary for DM

Montero HAS to come back to us in a deal with Seattle.

If I was Seattle, I would just sit tight with Montero and not give up Hultzen, Walker, or Paxton.

I dont think seattle offers hultzen or walker, much less BOTH. Paxton and Montero, maybe. They are still signing another to catcher to go along with Jaso, so Montero is in position to catch less this year

I could live with that, but it makes no sense for Seattle. They need
Offense but are going to trade their most promising hitter?

No way I make any of these deals without hultzen or walker. Paxton
does not have the upside we need.

ryansublett wrote:

jerdrew22 wrote: I get to say it again. Butler for hultzen and walker.

I think they have to figure out a way to get Montero back in the deal. helps fill the hole at DH left by billy. Maybe a Montero and walker or Hutlzen for Butler and maybe more on our side...

that also unloads a significant salary for DM

Montero could also serve as the back-up catcher, allowing the royals to fill the bench with someone else.  I love Butler's bat (and he's my 4 year old daughter's favorite player), but getting Montero and one of those two pitching prospects would be pretty awesome.

If I am SEA, I'm not sure I do Hultzen/Walker for Butler. Vargas is most likely gone after 2013. That would leave them with Paxton as the only decent-to-high impact SP that is close for them. They have other decent pieces like Erasmo Ramirez, but that trade would cripple their SP for 2014 and beyond.

Conversely, that deal cripples KC for 2013. Neither one of those pitchers is ready for MLB. Hultzen is at least a half season and Walker probably 1.5 seasons. I don't see how a deal with SEA helps KC.

But wouldn't 14 thru 16 look really good?

jerdrew22 wrote: But wouldn't 14 thru 16 look really good?

Sure, if they pan out.  But then why did you take on Santana? Why did you tender Hochevar?

What I am getting at is having congruent thought processes. either play for 2013 or don't.  Just don't half-ass it and waste $16M.