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FINALLY!! Royals discussing RA Dickey with Mets
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:23 AM
FINALLY!! Royals discussing RA Dickey with Mets
Duh..
it makes too much sense!
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/royals-mets- discussed-ra-dickey.html
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:28 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- KennyPowers wrote: Duh.. it makes too much sense! www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/royals-mets- discussed-ra-dickey.html --------------------------------------------- Yeah, you realize that they want OF help and that probably means Wil Myers. Add the fact that Dickey only has one year left before he hits FA means any progression in these talks is probably not good news for Royals fans.
Last edited 11/29/2012 11:31 AM by rustyz
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:31 AM
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I would not mind having Dickey on the staff. I have no clue what it would take to get him. Lough? Cain? We don't really have a catcher we can deal, do we?
Also, Heyman is a terrible writer.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:31 AM
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guess you shoulda read the article. It likely won't take Wil Myers.
Dickey is 1 year for $5 million
In their budget. and could be had for a package of young prospects
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:33 AM
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Ventura and Monty probably get him....or maybe I'm pipe dreaming....No way I give up Myers for him....
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:34 AM
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Also, I have seen quotes that Dickey is not looking for much in the way of extension...something like 2/$20.
If we could work an extension out for 2 more years before a trade, I'd give up anything not named Wil Myers and keep all our position players.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:35 AM
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Makes too much sense?? The guy was 41 - 50 before this year!! Just because he won this year means no success the rest of the time -- would MUCH rather trade for Shields or Lester who are YOUNGER!!
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:35 AM
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We really can't help them with catching or outfield help. Gordon, Myers, and Cain aren't going anywhere for a 1 year rental of a 38 year old pitcher, and Perez is the only catcher we have that would interest anyone, and he's not going anywhere for anyone. They won't want Francouer, Lough wouldn't be enough.
Maybe, just maybe, they'd be interested in Dyson if we also give them some relief pitching help, such as Crow or Coleman, but I doubt any team sees Dyson as a starting center fielder.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:40 AM
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Jayhawks23 wrote: Makes too much sense?? The guy was 41 - 50 before this year!! Just because he won this year means no success the rest of the time -- would MUCH rather trade for Shields or Lester who are YOUNGER!! The 1980s called, and they would like their method of pitcher evaluation back. 2012: 233.2 IP, 2.73 ERA 2011: 208.2 IP, 3.28 ERA 2010: 174.1 IP, 2.84 ERA Sure, his K rate isn't likely to stay at almost 9 per 9 innings, but he's been a very good pitcher each of the last 3 seasons.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:40 AM
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kerg01 wrote: Ventura and Monty probably get him....or maybe I'm pipe dreaming....No way I give up Myers for him.... It wouldn't take Myers, but it would be more than Ventura and Monty. He just won the Cy Young and is due only 5MM next year. Only having 1 year of control and his age and knuckleball weirdness lowers his value, but he's easily a cheap FOR pitcher for another year which carries a great deal of value to a number of teams. Something like Cain + Odorizzi/Ventura + Adam/Calixte/Bonifacio might do it.
Last edited 11/29/2012 11:46 AM by ElChupanibre
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:41 AM
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think about this folks.. if the mets want to flip the cy young winner on a cheap contract, what does that mean?
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:43 AM
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Mondesi Bonficiao Cuthbert Colon are the type of guys that should be discussed...I could even see Cain and a reliever...Not too long ago he was on the scrap heap and didn't fair as well when pitching in the AL
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:44 AM
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I wouldn't mind having Dickey on the staff but lets not call him an ace, thats just"putting lipstick on a pig". I also have no interest in trading Ventura or any other upper level prospects for him. Maybe I'm just skeptical but I don't trust knuckle ball pitchers to be much more than back end starters, no matter how good Wakefield had his knuckle working there were games he didn't make it two innings.
codylshs wrote: I'm right about everything else so it is as good as done..case closed
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:44 AM
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Shields > Lester > Dickey
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:45 AM
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Cain better not be traded for a 1 year rental.
I'd offer something like Dyson, Crow, Colon and see if they'd bite.
And in a total fantasy world, try to get them to take Francouer too.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:46 AM
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trev1980 wrote: Shields > Lester > Dickey Dickey last 3 years, 39-28, 2.95 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 129 ERA+, 3.12 K/BBLester last 3 years, 42-32, 3.85 ERA, 1.28 WHIP, 112 ERA+, 2.54 K/BBShields last 3 years, 44-37, 3.76 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, 102 ERA+, 3.65 K/BBI'm sorry.. you were saying?
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:46 AM
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DornCounty wrote: think about this folks.. if the mets want to flip the cy young winner on a cheap contract, what does that mean? It means: A. They are the Mets. They rarely do the smartest things. B. They want to get value out of him because they aren't going to win next year. C. He may have already told them that he is not interested in signing an extension with them.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:46 AM
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As a reminder, Dickey has no UCL, so we don't have to worry about Tommy John.
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:46 AM
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ElChupanibre wrote:
kerg01 wrote: Ventura and Monty probably get him....or maybe I'm pipe dreaming....No way I give up Myers for him.... It wouldn't take Myers, but it would be more than Ventura and Monty. He just won the Cy Young and is due only 5MM next year. Only having 1 year of control and his age and knuckleball weirdness lowers his value, but he's easily a cheap FOR pitcher for another year.
Something like Cain + Odorizzi/Ventura + Adam/Calixte/Bonifacio might do it. You think he gets that much? Would you do this deal?
codylshs wrote: I'm right about everything else so it is as good as done..case closed
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Posted: 11/29/2012 11:47 AM
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I think RA dickey is a good move... hes fairly cheap, I think you could extend him pretty easily if you wanted to, and youd have the payroll room to add a FA, or another trade
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