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Oj Mayo is a top 5 SG
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:53 AM
Oj Mayo is a top 5 SG
Now I know some of you are going to try and argue against statistics and facts and reality and common sense but I will post this so we can all just stop trying to judge this guy based off a sling of isolated performances.
Some quick facts about O.J. Mayo so far this year:
He is 5th among 2 guards in Shooting Percentage
He is 8th among SGs in adjusted shooting percentage
He is 7th among SGs in assist per game.
He is 5th among SGs in points per game
He is 8th among SGs in Steals per game
He is 8th among SGs in 3 point percentage
No other SG in basketball is top 10 in all of those categories. Not Kobe. Not Wade. Not Harden.
According to Synergy Sports O.J. Mayo is the 4th best in basketball in Isolation plays. (Links to synergy sports generally don't work, but if you don't believe me go look yourself)
O.J. Mayo is 5th among SGs in Estimated Wins added. O.J Mayo is 5th among SGs in Value added
Kobe
Wade
Harden
Mayo
But please go on about how terrible at everything he is 
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Posted: 2/25/2013 9:56 AM
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In case you were wondering. Harden, Wade, and Kobe are better then Mayo at everything except 3 Pt percentage.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:00 AM
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Mayo has also made some big defensive plays. I'd like to see him improve his shot selection, but he is definitely a keeper.
"They say go all or go home man." Delonte West
"You don't live by threes, you die by threes." Charles Barkley
"Fouls cause a change in how you play....remember that." Txbamanut
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:02 AM
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Sweet! Sign and trade him for Harden, wade, or Kobe.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:02 AM
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So what can we get for him?
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:04 AM
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He is 11 in per and that's only because Dirk missed half the season.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:06 AM
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Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:07 AM
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sohaltang40 wrote: Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud. He had a stretch were he shot 55% from 3. Whats your point? We evaluate guys on 5 game stretches now? |
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:10 AM
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We declared roddy was the savior based on one game.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:10 AM
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--------------------------------------------- --- HeNeverLies4 wrote: sohaltang40 wrote: Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud. He had a stretch were he shot 55% from 3. Whats your point? We evaluate guys on 5 game stretches now? --------------------------------------------- Only fair to view his stats since Dirk has taken over primary scorer again. As dirk improves Mayo should get even less looks. |
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:11 AM
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HeNeverLies4 wrote:
sohaltang40 wrote: Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud. He had a stretch were he shot 55% from 3. Whats your point? We evaluate guys on 5 game stretches now? Its the clutch moment of the game, a big shot needed. Whos hands do you want the ball in? Kobe, Wade, Harden?... or OJ Mayo? Nuff said... |
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:13 AM
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We declared roddy was the savior based on one game.
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A 8 game stretch where B James averaged 15 min and less than 4 points, less than 4 RPG proved to the whole board we won the Tyler Zeller trade and encouraged the 2nd most popular thread this week. Lol
Last edited 2/25/2013 10:15 AM by sohaltang40
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:14 AM
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Mayo is one of those guys who pad their stats vs. garbage teams in garbage situations but disappear completely when it counts (crunch time or big games).
Vince Carter is also such a guy, but much better (and more flashy) at statpadding than Mayo...
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:15 AM
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CenTexMavsFan wrote:
HeNeverLies4 wrote:
sohaltang40 wrote: Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud. He had a stretch were he shot 55% from 3. Whats your point? We evaluate guys on 5 game stretches now?
Its the clutch moment of the game, a big shot needed. Whos hands do you want the ball in? Kobe, Wade, Harden?... or OJ Mayo? Nuff said...
Those guys are unavailable. You do realize that all the other shots in the game matter too?
"They say go all or go home man." Delonte West
"You don't live by threes, you die by threes." Charles Barkley
"Fouls cause a change in how you play....remember that." Txbamanut
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:16 AM
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chiodos03 wrote: Jae Crowder
STATS| GP | MPG | FGM-FGA | FG% | 3PM-3PA | 3P% | FTM-FTA | FT% | RPG | APG | BLKPG | STLPG | PFPG | TOPG | PPG |
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| 2012-13 Regular Season | 51 | 16.9 | 1.9-5.1 | .382 | 0.9-2.8 | .322 | 0.7-1.1 | .632 | 2.3 | 1.1 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 1.7 | 0.6 | 5.5 | | Career | 51 | 16.9 | 1.9-5.1 | .382 | 0.9-2.8 | .322 | 0.7-1.1 | .632 | 2.3 | 1.1 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 1.7 | 0.6 | 5.5 |
this is what i cannot understand not Oj mayo True. I would have liked to see Morrow in there instead of Crowder. With Mayo though, i understand we HAVE to play the guy essentially. He is a very good shooter and not a bad player in general. My point though, is that he just has ZERO clutch and killer instinct inside of him. Some say "that will come" in time, but i dunno.... i surely hope so, but im just not seeing it. It feels like we have a tough decision to make with him in the offseason. |
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:17 AM
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Mayo is one of those guys who pad their stats vs. garbage teams in garbage situations but disappear completely when it counts (crunch time or big games).
Vince Carter is also such a guy, but much better (and more flashy) at statpadding than Mayo...
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True. Kris Hump could be considered top 10 PF the last few years if you just look at stats.
Last edited 2/25/2013 10:18 AM by sohaltang40
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:18 AM
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Kobe Bryant
James Harden
Dwayne Wade
Eric Gordon
Andre Iguodala
Joe Johnson
Manu Ginobili
Kevin Martin
He's 9th IMO, maybe lower.
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:19 AM
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CenTexMavsFan wrote:
HeNeverLies4 wrote:
sohaltang40 wrote: Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud. He had a stretch were he shot 55% from 3. Whats your point? We evaluate guys on 5 game stretches now?
Its the clutch moment of the game, a big shot needed. Whos hands do you want the ball in? Kobe, Wade, Harden?... or OJ Mayo? Nuff said... Didn't he already say that Mayo was the lesser of those guys?
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:20 AM
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dart1 wrote:
CenTexMavsFan wrote:
HeNeverLies4 wrote:
sohaltang40 wrote: Last 5 games. 35 mpg 12 PPG 3 assist 3 rebounds. Total stud. He had a stretch were he shot 55% from 3. Whats your point? We evaluate guys on 5 game stretches now?
Its the clutch moment of the game, a big shot needed. Whos hands do you want the ball in? Kobe, Wade, Harden?... or OJ Mayo? Nuff said...
Those guys are unavailable. You do realize that all the other shots in the game matter too?
My point is that all of this "Top 5" talk is pointless, because stats dont tell the whole story. Of course its nice to have a good "starting quality" SG for once on this team, but him as the #2 option behind Dirk is clearly a pipedream and just not going to cut it, if we truly plan on being a legitimate contender again anytime soon. And yes, when the majority of the games weve lost this year have come down to the clutch plays NOT being made, i think they are DEFINITELY more important than the other shots. Whoopie, you can make an uncontested 3 in 1st quarter. I wanna see it when the pressure is turned up. |
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Posted: 2/25/2013 10:25 AM
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CenTexMavsFan wrote:
dart1 wrote:
Those guys are unavailable. You do realize that all the other shots in the game matter too?
My point is that all of this "Top 5" talk is pointless, because stats dont tell the whole story. Of course its nice to have a good "starting quality" SG for once on this team, but him as the #2 option behind Dirk is clearly a pipedream and just not going to cut it, if we truly plan on being a legitimate contender again anytime soon.
And yes, when the majority of the games weve lost this year have come down to the clutch plays NOT being made, i think they are DEFINITELY more important than the other shots. Whoopie, you can make an uncontested 3 in 1st quarter. I wanna see it when the pressure is turned up. Our losses aren't about "clutchness" at all. The losses are mostly due to our poor half-court offense at crunch time. It generally comes down to burning a lot of clock and taking a really bad shot. That is why we lose so many close games. Our opponents usually get better shots at the end.
"They say go all or go home man." Delonte West
"You don't live by threes, you die by threes." Charles Barkley
"Fouls cause a change in how you play....remember that." Txbamanut
Last edited 2/25/2013 10:26 AM by dart1
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