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Indians acquire Chris Dickerson

Posted: 7/7/2014 3:11 PM

Indians acquire Chris Dickerson 


For cash or PTBNL.  Via Jon Morosi on Twitter:  

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/...217677090721792

Kottaras DFA'd to make room.  Bourn expected to miss 3-4 weeks.

Still don't like the lack of a back up catcher, but maybe Holt is sent down and Roberto Perez gets a chance.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 3:14 PM

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For those wondering where Nyjer Morgan stands in all this, he is still experiencing pain in his right knee.  

Cleveland.com's notes on the transaction


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Posted: 7/7/2014 3:34 PM

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This move just goes to show the organization lack of faith in their depth at AAA or AA for all we have heard and seen stat wise of Naquin the Front office sure wanted no part  in giving him a couple of week trail at the majors until Bourn returns to see what they have this move throws out huge question marks IMO.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 3:37 PM

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kcatthebat wrote: This move just goes to show the organization lack of faith in their depth at AAA or AA for all we have heard and seen stat wise of Naquin the Front office sure wanted no part  in giving him a couple of week trail at the majors until Bourn returns to see what they have this move throws out huge question marks IMO.
Naquin just had hand surgery.  He's out indefinitely.  

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe...ose_naquin.html

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Posted: 7/7/2014 3:38 PM

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Naquin is out with a broken bone in his hand that required surgery.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 3:59 PM

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I forgot about the Naquin broken hand until my son just reminded me. crazy 

But IMO this move does nothing more than bring us another low average hitless wonder to stand next to Raburn / Swisher / Murphey now Dickerson = Meaningless pick up.

What a mess this outfield situation has become outside of Brantley we have zero upside in the outfield on Defense or Offense.
CATS44 wrote: Naquin is out with a broken bone in his hand that required surgery.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 4:07 PM

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Francona sure loves his vets. Holt couldn't provide what Dickerson does? Hell, Carson (yeah he's old too) or Fedroff? Moncrief needs actual ABs so I'm not advocating for him, but damn.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 4:10 PM

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IdahoTribesman wrote:
kcatthebat wrote: This move just goes to show the organization lack of faith in their depth at AAA or AA for all we have heard and seen stat wise of Naquin the Front office sure wanted no part  in giving him a couple of week trail at the majors until Bourn returns to see what they have this move throws out huge question marks IMO.
Naquin just had hand surgery.  He's out indefinitely.  

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe...ose_naquin.html


He is also not on the 40 man roster. Really, there are just some things that are easy to check for before wasting breath on a rant.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 4:19 PM

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TheStoicPaisano wrote: Francona sure loves his vets. Holt couldn't provide what Dickerson does? Hell, Carson (yeah he's old too) or Fedroff? Moncrief needs actual ABs so I'm not advocating for him, but damn.
Mark me down as being very disappointed that we couldn't just give Holt a shot.   Dickerson is not a plus glove, he's another left handed hitter, and while he might, I repeat might, hit better than Holt, I just don't understand why we flee toward proven mediocrities in time of need (and pay for them!) when we have guys in house that surely can do just as poorly.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 4:58 PM

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holt wasn't on the 40-man either.

i have to agree with the general sentiment here. dickerson may be better than holt, but is he that much better that we have to waste a roster spot? and being a lefty is of little value either.

heck, i'd rather see carson come up. or bring up ramirez. he's at least on the 40-man.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 5:42 PM

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I was all set to say Dickerson must be a great leader (since he ain't much of a player - which if francona's type - lead... off a cliff... but lead!)

is holt any good?  probably not...  but more of a chance than Dickerson... and at least holt is a RH bat that could mix in with the guys we have...
Carson as well...

my only moment of pause before I roll my eyes is that they dumped Kottaras (who I would have liked to keep so Santana doesn't have to catch)... rather than simply sending Holt down...
and we have like 83 journeymen catchers in the minors so losing Korraras (and he'll probably AGAIN make it through waivers anyway) isn't a big deal at all...

so maybe they will play Hold and have Dickerson as insurance...

because... however you cut it... if they added Holt to the 40 man and then send him back down without playing him... to sign a stiff like Dickerson... they are idiots...
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Posted: 7/7/2014 5:52 PM

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TheStoicPaisano wrote: Francona sure loves his vets. Holt couldn't provide what Dickerson does? Hell, Carson (yeah he's old too) or Fedroff? Moncrief needs actual ABs so I'm not advocating for him, but damn.
Carson probably would have been called up but for the fact he just came off the DL over the weekend (he was injured in late May).

Fedroff was demoted to Akron the other day.

It appears that Dickerson was obtained so the Tribe could send Holt back to Columbus where he'll be able to play everyday instead of getting into an occasional game with the Tribe.  Holt didn't really emerge until this season year at Akron and then in Columbus. 

I suspect Dickerson is a stop gap and unless he hits really well we'll see Carson after he gets some more ABs with the Clippers
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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:04 PM

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buckeyedanpt2 wrote: I was all set to say Dickerson must be a great leader (since he ain't much of a player - which if francona's type - lead... off a cliff... but lead!)

is holt any good?  probably not...  but more of a chance than Dickerson... and at least holt is a RH bat that could mix in with the guys we have...
Carson as well...

my only moment of pause before I roll my eyes is that they dumped Kottaras (who I would have liked to keep so Santana doesn't have to catch)... rather than simply sending Holt down...
and we have like 83 journeymen catchers in the minors so losing Korraras (and he'll probably AGAIN make it through waivers anyway) isn't a big deal at all...

so maybe they will play Hold and have Dickerson as insurance...

because... however you cut it... if they added Holt to the 40 man and then send him back down without playing him... to sign a stiff like Dickerson... they are idiots...
The Tribe kept Kottras as long as they did because it appears they don't want to risk another concussion.

The Tribe likely has not changed its mind since Francona has designated Santana the emergency catcher for tonight.  This suggests there will be a move for a catcher.

That catcher is likely to be Roberto Perez.  And at 25 hitting .305/.405/.517/.922 with eight homers and 43 RBIs in 174 ABs I'd hardly call him a "journeyman."

Last edited 7/7/2014 6:05 PM by JenniferMarie

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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:46 PM

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i'd be good to give perez a shot. his defense is excellent. his hitting has been way out of character for him good this season, which i view suspiciously. he's always been willing to take a walk, but he was never much of a hitter before this season.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:00 PM

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In listening to Francona tonight it sounds like the Tribe's tentative plan is to go with Santana as the emergency catcher until either Gomes is hurt or has to take a day off.  In the meanwhile Holt stays with the Tribe and gets some playing time.

Makes sense in the short term because it gives the Tribe someone that can come in and play late innining defense for Raburn and Aviles as well as be used as a pinch runner.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:02 PM

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not likely a problem for a couple of weeks anyway, with the break coming.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 7:16 PM

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Yeah, I goofed and didn't remember Kottaras was on the 25, so Dickerson takes that slot instead of Holt's. They still need to get the kid some real time. I'd use him as a defensive replacement/pinch runner every single game and get him starts where possible.


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In listening to Francona tonight it sounds like the Tribe's tentative plan is to go with Santana as the emergency catcher until either Gomes is hurt or has to take a day off.  In the meanwhile Holt stays with the Tribe and gets some playing time.

Makes sense in the short term because it gives the Tribe someone that can come in and play late innining defense for Raburn and Aviles as well as be used as a pinch runner.

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Posted: 7/8/2014 3:53 PM

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buddy34 wrote: i'd be good to give perez a shot. his defense is excellent. his hitting has been way out of character for him good this season, which i view suspiciously. he's always been willing to take a walk, but he was never much of a hitter before this season.

SAN FRANCISCO -- Indians catching prospect Roberto Perez has enjoyed a torrid start to his season with Triple-A Columbus. This is more than just a strong first month for the catcher. It is an incredible comeback story.

Ross Atkins, Cleveland's vice president of player development, revealed Sunday that Perez dealt with Bell's palsy for most of last season, but played through the condition. For most of Perez's time at Triple-A last year, he suffered from partial paralysis of the left side of his face, resulting in problems with his left eye.

"About maybe a week after he was in Columbus, he got Bell's palsy in his face," Atkins said. "He literally could not close his eye for months. He had to put a patch on to sleep."

Atkins said the issue did not really calm down until Spring Training prior to this season.

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Posted: 7/8/2014 3:59 PM

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yea, i knew that. but that doesn't explain his nonhitting in 2010, 2011 and 2012.

i hope what he's doing this year is a big step forward. i'm just skeptical.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 7:52 PM

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JenniferMarie wrote: In listening to Francona tonight it sounds like the Tribe's tentative plan is to go with Santana as the emergency catcher until either Gomes is hurt or has to take a day off.  In the meanwhile Holt stays with the Tribe and gets some playing time.

Makes sense in the short term because it gives the Tribe someone that can come in and play late innining defense for Raburn and Aviles as well as be used as a pinch runner.
I 100% agree... any reasonable person would see this as making sense

and given the tribe did a 180 in a day...

brilliant...

but we lead the league in "leaders" and guys who can't hit...
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