GradysBaby13 wrote: What do you guys think it will look like to open the season?

C - Santana
1B - Reynolds
2B - Kipnis
3B - Chisenhall
SS - Cabrera
LF - Brantley
CF - Stubbs
RF - Swisher
DH - McGuiness/Gomes?

Bench - Marson, Aviles, Raburn & Francisco

SP1 - Masterson 
SP2 - Ubaldo 
SP3 - Myers
SP4 - McAllister
SP5 - Carrasco/Bauer/Tomlin

RHP: Smith, Albers, Shaw
LHP: Kazmir, Hagadone
SU: Pestano
CL: Perez

Other BP Options: Allen, Barnes, Herrmann, Huff, Kluber, Lee, Wood and loser/s of 5th spot.

BrianBell wrote: Here's my take:

Catchers: Santana and Marson
Infielders: Reynolds, Kipnis, Cabrera, Chisenhall, Aviles, Gomes
Outfielders: Brantley, Stubbs, Swisher, Rayburn

Starting Pitchers: Masterson, Jimenez, Myers, McAllister, Bauer
Relief Pitchers: Perez, Pestano, Smith, Albers, Shaw, Hagadone, Allen, Huff

This is assuming the Indians make no more moves of course.

It's highly unlikely they'll carry just a three man bench. If Huff is your long man (which you wouldn't need if you have an 8 man pen in your scenario) then that means that Allen or Shaw most likely opens in AAA.

Seeing how the Indians have operated over the past 10 years it is hard to imagine McGuiness, Huff and Carrera not making this team. Only for the reason that they would then be exposed to waivers (Huff and Carrera) or offered back to their original team (McGuiness) The Tribe FO seems to be in the mindset of controlling their assets (players with no options) and not just cutting ties with them.

It is tough to see a situation where McGuiness doesn't break camp with the team. They wouldn't have picked him up via Rule 5 had they not believed it was probable.

I think that dumping Gomez to Pittsburgh only points to Huff making the 25 man out of camp and the fact that Carrera has shown much better discipline in the winter league and the fact that he is a good outfielder with some speed also points to him being a sound candidate to be the 4th outfielder.

Fedroff, Francisco and Raburn are all able to start the year in AAA with no loss to the organization. One of them would have to really play outstanding in Goodyear and Carrera fall flat on his face to make the team imo.

skydancing wrote:

It's highly unlikely they'll carry just a three man bench. If Huff is your long man (which you wouldn't need if you have an 8 man pen in your scenario) then that means that Allen or Shaw most likely opens in AAA.

Seeing how the Indians have operated over the past 10 years it is hard to imagine McGuiness, Huff and Carrera not making this team. Only for the reason that they would then be exposed to waivers (Huff and Carrera) or offered back to their original team (McGuiness) The Tribe FO seems to be in the mindset of controlling their assets (players with no options) and not just cutting ties with them.

It is tough to see a situation where McGuiness doesn't break camp with the team. They wouldn't have picked him up via Rule 5 had they not believed it was probable.

I think that dumping Gomez to Pittsburgh only points to Huff making the 25 man out of camp and the fact that Carrera has shown much better discipline in the winter league and the fact that he is a good outfielder with some speed also points to him being a sound candidate to be the 4th outfielder.

Fedroff, Francisco and Raburn are all able to start the year in AAA with no loss to the organization. One of them would have to really play outstanding in Goodyear and Carrera fall flat on his face to make the team imo.

buddy34 wrote: i like both carrera and huff to make the 25-man. i don't see mcguinness as a lock at all - if he can't make the roster but they still like him, easy enough to work out a trade and then send him to AAA.

i still don't think carrasco starts the season in the majors.

• Once a player has been placed on a team's 40-man roster, a team has 3 option years on that player.
  • A player is considered to have used one of those three option years when he spends at least 20 days in the minors in any of those 3 seasons.
• A team may have a fourth option year on a player with less than five full seasons of professional experience, provided that both conditions are met below.
  1. A player has not spent at least 90 days on an active professional roster in a season. Minor leagues that play below Class A Advanced have seasons that are shorter than 90 days, and as such, any player who spends a full season in a rookie or Class A (short-season) league will receive a fourth option year.
  2. A player has not spent at least 60 days on an active professional roster AND then at least 30 days on a disabled list in a season. Only after 60 days have been spent on an active professional roster does time spent on the disabled list count towards the 90-day threshold. As with the prior example, this cannot occur with players who spend a full season in a rookie or Class A (short season) league.

Once all of the options have been used up on a player, a player is considered "out of options" and a player must be placed on and clear waivers prior to being sent down to the minor leagues (there is also the "veterans' consent" rule; see below). Additionally, three years after the date of a player’s first appearance on a major-league roster, he must clear optional waivers (which are revocable) to be optioned even if he has options remaining.^[9]

MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: I don't see how Carerra is not possibly out of options. He was placed on the 40 man of the Mariners before we got him, which was in 2010. That means he was optioned in 2010, 2011, and 2012. That is three options.

mstribe wrote: I'm not sure about this but doesn't Carrasco still have a 5 game suspension that he has to serve from his last start in 2011? The last I knew he had yet to serve that.

Frenchie1 wrote:
Can Tomlin and Lee be back so soon?

Lee missed most of 2012 while recovering from Tommy John surgery, but he's flashed plenty of promise in the past. The 26-year-old should be fully recovered around midseason in 2013 but probably won't be big league-ready until 2014.

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GradysBaby13 wrote: Lineup:
Brantley, LF
Cabrera, SS
Kipnis, 2B
Santana, C
Swisher, RF
Reynolds, 1B
Thome/Francisco, DH
Chisenhall, 3B
Stubbs, CF

Bench:
Marson, BC
Aviles, Util
Francisco/Thome, DH Platoon
Hermida, 4OF

Rotation:
RHP - Masterson
RHP - Myers
RHP - Ubaldo
LHP - Kazmir
RHP - Carrasco

Bullpen:
Joe Smith, Scott Albers, Bryan Shaw, Matt Capps, Nick Hagadone, Vinnie Pestano, Chris Perez.

Other:
McAllister opens in Colombus as 6th starter.  Trevor Bauer comes up as soon as his super 2 status is over.  Tomlin comes back after midseason.  Next in line with bullpen depth Cody Allen, Scott Barnes, Frank Herrmann, David Huff, Corey Kluber, Chen Lee, Blake Wood.