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Posted: 1/15/2013 6:03 PM

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I read Pestano and Perez have an invite to play in the WBC. They are obviously thrilled and probably would not want to turn it down. Is there something the FO could do to stop this? Should they? I'd hate to see an injury ocurr while playing in the WBC that scuttles a potential trade or just playing for the tribe
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Posted: 1/15/2013 10:22 PM

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I seem to remember that Cabrera is playing for Venezuela and Gomes is playing for Brazil.

makes me also wonder about spring training. especially for a guy like Gomes who is competing for a job.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 12:09 AM

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Frenchie1 wrote: I read Pestano and Perez have an invite to play in the WBC. They are obviously thrilled and probably would not want to turn it down. Is there something the FO could do to stop this? Should they? I'd hate to see an injury ocurr while playing in the WBC that scuttles a potential trade or just playing for the tribe

Injuries happen in spring training the same way they'll happen at the WBC. It really is a non issue to me. It's not like the USA team hired the ACME Training staff.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:30 PM

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Pestano and Perez should go, it is an honor to represent their country and as relievers should be able to get into game shape earlier than a starter. Hell, these WBC pitching staffs should be mostly manned by relievers, imo- just makes sense for a one-game elimination tourney like this- you can't risk anything and you are going to pull your pitcher at the first sign of serious trouble anyway. Maybe use starters in the opening rounds only?

As for injuries, it comes down to preparation. They, obviously, need to begin prepping earlier. For guys like Pestano and Perez, who have been couch surfing since September, it isn't that big of a deal to start a few weeks earlier. I think MLB has learned from each of the WBCs and we are seeing better prep by the players. Injuries are inevitable, but I think prevention of injuries from 'too much too soon' can be mitigated for the WBC.

*slightly off-topic, or maybe on-topic, not sure- I have to wonder if many of the spring training injuries to pitchers are actually structural injuries that occurred in the prior season but only surface once the player gets back to full-speed throwing. So many pitchers take a good chunk of time off from full-on throwing in the offseason, which I frankly don't agree with, I have to wonder if the time off simply allows for a reduction of inflammation and scar tissue, and well, pain tolerance, to where once they try to ramp back up they can't.*

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Posted: 1/16/2013 2:43 PM

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skydancing wrote:
Frenchie1 wrote: I read Pestano and Perez have an invite to play in the WBC. They are obviously thrilled and probably would not want to turn it down. Is there something the FO could do to stop this? Should they? I'd hate to see an injury ocurr while playing in the WBC that scuttles a potential trade or just playing for the tribe

Injuries happen in spring training the same way they'll happen at the WBC. It really is a non issue to me. It's not like the USA team hired the ACME Training staff.
The big difference is that pitching in the WBC is high leverage innings especially for the Latin American countries.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 5:43 PM

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it's a good question, and at one time I would have advocated a strong stance against allowing them to play. Then I saw a game in the Dominican Republic.  I was totally astonished at how fanatical they are about baseball, how exciting the games are (moreso  than games in the U.S. due to the intensity of the crowds - it's like a mix of college football and European soccer) and what heroes these guys are to their fans. 

You've just got to let them play.
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Posted: 1/16/2013 8:46 PM

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Playing in the WBC is no different than playing winter ball. It's really a non issue and I'm glad that the players that are playing seem excited to be apart of team USA.
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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:14 AM

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skydancing wrote: Playing in the WBC is no different than playing winter ball. It's really a non issue and I'm glad that the players that are playing seem excited to be apart of team USA.
If this were true, why would a WBC even be held?eek1
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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:18 AM

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DCTribefan wrote:
skydancing wrote: Playing in the WBC is no different than playing winter ball. It's really a non issue and I'm glad that the players that are playing seem excited to be apart of team USA.
If this were true, why would a WBC even be held?eek1
Why is WBC even held at all? Is it really that big of a "thing" for other nations?
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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:27 AM

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Dromag67 wrote:
DCTribefan wrote:
skydancing wrote: Playing in the WBC is no different than playing winter ball. It's really a non issue and I'm glad that the players that are playing seem excited to be apart of team USA.
If this were true, why would a WBC even be held?eek1
Why is WBC even held at all? Is it really that big of a "thing" for other nations?
Yes
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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:43 PM

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Frenchie1 wrote: I read Pestano and Perez have an invite to play in the WBC. They are obviously thrilled and probably would not want to turn it down. Is there something the FO could do to stop this? Should they? I'd hate to see an injury ocurr while playing in the WBC that scuttles a potential trade or just playing for the tribe
Not sure anyone answered your question.  Officially there is nothing.  Unofficially they can try to discourage a player.  For example. emphasizing to Gomes how much harder it will be to make the 25 man roster not having the full benefit of spring training to prove himself.  MLB has told teams to try to avoid discouraging players from not playing.

Note too that the MLBPA is a co-founder of the WBC.

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Posted: 1/25/2013 11:57 PM

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skydancing wrote: Playing in the WBC is no different than playing winter ball. It's really a non issue and I'm glad that the players that are playing seem excited to be apart of team USA.
The big difference is that winter ball generally starts around the end of the MLB season so even if some players take time off they are in reasonably good shape when they start playing in winter games,

A lot of players that play in the WBC have taken off quite a few weeks off and go into accelerated training.  The fear is mostly about pitchers extending themselves more than they are prepared.  There are some WBC rules in place intended to help prevent this.
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Posted: 1/26/2013 4:22 AM

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JenniferMarie wrote:
Frenchie1 wrote: I read Pestano and Perez have an invite to play in the WBC. They are obviously thrilled and probably would not want to turn it down. Is there something the FO could do to stop this? Should they? I'd hate to see an injury ocurr while playing in the WBC that scuttles a potential trade or just playing for the tribe
Not sure anyone answered your question.  Officially there is nothing.  Unofficially they can try to discourage a player.  For example. emphasizing to Gomes how much harder it will be to make the 25 man roster not having the full benefit of spring training to prove himself.  MLB has told teams to try to avoid discouraging players from not playing.

Note too that the MLBPA is a co-founder of the WBC.
That’s what I was looking for. Thanks.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 2:47 PM

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Yan Gomes on whether he'll play for Brazil in WBC: "Right now it's no. But I haven't made a final decision yet."

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