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Projected Line ups and Rotations?

Posted: 12/23/2012 6:45 PM

Projected Line ups and Rotations? 


any ideas? for me

LF Brantley
2B Kipnis
SS ACab
RF Swisher
C Santana
1B Reynolds
3B Chisenhall
DH Platoon
CF Stubbs

DH Platoon will probably be between Santana when he's not catching, Aviles, McGuiness if they keep him around, or Reynolds if they go after another OF

Adam LaRoche is still out there if they want to use him or Reynolds as a full time DH same with Carlos Lee, Juan Rivera, Delmon Young, and Luke Scott

Rotation

1-Masterson or FA signing
2-Bauer
3-McCallister
4-Jimenez
5-Many diffrent guys

the Tribe right now are still looking for another SP, some names on the FA market are Kyle Loshe (would be #1) Shawn Marcum (would be #3) Dice K (would be #5) Jair Jurrjens (would be #5) plus theres Salazar, Kluber, and Carrassco

theres also Scott Kazmir who is back up to throwing 94 and struk out over 30% of the batters he faced in Winter League

Loshe would be a Swisher type Homerun guy and it moves Masterson to the #3 spot and Jimenez to the #5 spot where they could dominate
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Posted: 12/23/2012 6:59 PM

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With Kipnis,Astrocab,Swisher,Reynolds and Santana likely to hit 20-25 homers it will at least be a fun lineup to watch.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 7:45 PM

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i would even consider switching Santana and Reynolds at times
Reynolds was clutch last year in Baltimore with a runner on 3rd he had a .970 OPS, with a runner on 3rd and 2 out he had a 1.323 OPS and you have to pitch to him or face Santana, who if he learns how to hit a breaking pitch, will be scary good

Last edited 12/23/2012 7:45 PM by Kent34

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Posted: 12/23/2012 8:48 PM

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A bit tough to project this but I believe they are not done. They offered Edwin Jackson a contract while the offer was on the table for Swisher, which makes me believe they will go hard after either Marcum or Lohse. I think the Swisher signing will only help the Indians attract one of these two guys.

I also think it's possible they go after a DH. I would love trading for Soriano from the Cubs, that would give us an incredible lineup if we are willing to part with some prospects. However, other options include Berkman, Hafner, and Thome, which all have risks of injury. I think Young could also be a good asset as a 4th OF/DH guy. It is possible they use DH as a rotation but if they can find the right guy, they should do a dedicated DH. Someone with the power of Soriano would work better as a cleanup hitter instead of Santana/Swisher/Reynolds. Right now I don't really like any of those guys in cleanup.

Hoping Stubbs has a bounceback year. If he hits like it's 2010 he can be a great asset. However not sure what was with 2011-2012. I heard he may have been injured?

In any case they could find a good lefty to platoon with Stubbs or just go with him full time. I think he's a great defensive CF that might make sense to play full time and hope he can figure things out at the plate.

Honestly I really hope they go for Lohse/Marcum first and then try for a cheap but good DH option via trade. I think its possible they trade Cabrera but part of me doesn't want to see that... as Cabrera would really help us as is.

I am glad we aren't doing a "conventional" rebuild, as I'd hate to sit through that and watch it.

As far as rotation goes, I think it will look something like this:


1-Masterson
2-Lohse or Marcum or other FA/trade option
3-McCallister
4-Jimenez
5-Carrasco

Not entirely sure they will throw Bauer in the mix right away. If they do it will be at 4/5. Don't want to pressure the kid.

Also Carrasco could be higher up if he's fully healed up.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 8:49 PM

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these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006
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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:18 PM

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Brantley
Cabrera
Kipnis
Swisher
Reynolds
Chisenhall
Santana
Carp or Justin Smoak in a trade (DH)
Stubbs

I love Stubbs speed at the bottom of the lineup. I'd try to trade for Smoak or Carp to DH, who aren't gonna get playing time in SEA, now that they got Morales(1b), Ibanez(RF), and already have Montero DHing.

Aviles
Marson or Yan Gomes
McDade or McGuiness
Carrera

Masterson
Kyle Lohse/Chris Capuano/Joe Saunders (Lohse would be ace if he signed here)
McAllister
Ubaldo
Bauer or Carrasco (Depends on who wins it out of Spring)

I LOVE Kyle Lohse. If we sign him, I think we WILL win the Division. Esp. if Ubaldo has a decent enough season. I'd really like the very available Chris Capuano from the stacked LAD team, who we're interested in. Saunders would be a solid innings eater too. Hope we don't trade Masterson.

C. Perez
Pestano
Smith
Shaw
C. Allen
Albers/Hagadone/Huff
Scott Barnes

I would trade one of the rightys in the pen (preferrably Albers, throw in a prospect for a DH like Carp/Smoak) and add either David Huff or Hagadone in the pen so we can have a couple leftys.



I think what I just wrote is a playoff team.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:34 PM

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durmiente wrote: A bit tough to project this but I believe they are not done. They offered Edwin Jackson a contract while the offer was on the table for Swisher, which makes me believe they will go hard after either Marcum or Lohse. I think the Swisher signing will only help the Indians attract one of these two guys.

I also think it's possible they go after a DH. I would love trading for Soriano from the Cubs, that would give us an incredible lineup if we are willing to part with some prospects. However, other options include Berkman, Hafner, and Thome, which all have risks of injury. I think Young could also be a good asset as a 4th OF/DH guy. It is possible they use DH as a rotation but if they can find the right guy, they should do a dedicated DH. Someone with the power of Soriano would work better as a cleanup hitter instead of Santana/Swisher/Reynolds. Right now I don't really like any of those guys in cleanup.

Hoping Stubbs has a bounceback year. If he hits like it's 2010 he can be a great asset. However not sure what was with 2011-2012. I heard he may have been injured?

In any case they could find a good lefty to platoon with Stubbs or just go with him full time. I think he's a great defensive CF that might make sense to play full time and hope he can figure things out at the plate.

Honestly I really hope they go for Lohse/Marcum first and then try for a cheap but good DH option via trade. I think its possible they trade Cabrera but part of me doesn't want to see that... as Cabrera would really help us as is.

I am glad we aren't doing a "conventional" rebuild, as I'd hate to sit through that and watch it.

As far as rotation goes, I think it will look something like this:


1-Masterson
2-Lohse or Marcum or other FA/trade option
3-McCallister
4-Jimenez
5-Carrasco

Not entirely sure they will throw Bauer in the mix right away. If they do it will be at 4/5. Don't want to pressure the kid.

Also Carrasco could be higher up if he's fully healed up.

Loshe would take the Ace spot over masterson if he looks in ST like he did last year, and its not even close. Bauer will more then likley be thrown in righ away, theres nothing more to see from him in the minor league level and he has nothing to prove.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:39 PM

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tribefan40 wrote: Brantley
Cabrera
Kipnis
Swisher
Reynolds
Chisenhall
Santana
Carp or Justin Smoak in a trade (DH)
Stubbs

I love Stubbs speed at the bottom of the lineup. I'd try to trade for Smoak or Carp to DH, who aren't gonna get playing time in SEA, now that they got Morales(1b), Ibanez(RF), and already have Montero DHing.

Aviles
Marson or Yan Gomes
McDade or McGuiness
Carrera

Masterson
Kyle Lohse/Chris Capuano/Joe Saunders (Lohse would be ace if he signed here)
McAllister
Ubaldo
Bauer or Carrasco (Depends on who wins it out of Spring)

I LOVE Kyle Lohse. If we sign him, I think we WILL win the Division. Esp. if Ubaldo has a decent enough season. I'd really like the very available Chris Capuano from the stacked LAD team, who we're interested in. Saunders would be a solid innings eater too. Hope we don't trade Masterson.

C. Perez
Pestano
Smith
Shaw
C. Allen
Albers/Hagadone/Huff
Scott Barnes

I would trade one of the rightys in the pen (preferrably Albers, throw in a prospect for a DH like Carp/Smoak) and add either David Huff or Hagadone in the pen so we can have a couple leftys.



I think what I just wrote is a playoff team.



1) No chance Santana bats that low
2) No chance Chisenhall bats ahead of Santana
3) Why would we trade away a guy who just had a 2.39 ERA out of the pen last year? He had a better ERA and .03 higher WHIP then Pestano, a much better ERA then Perez and the same WHIP, dont see him going anywhere anytime soon, too valuable.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:50 PM

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--- Kent34 wrote:


buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006



What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 9:52 PM

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indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:


buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006



What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:07 PM

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I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:


indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:


buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006



What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:09 PM

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montgocm wrote: I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:


indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:


buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006



What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

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Not here to make freinds, just here to state absolute facts like i've done all along
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:25 PM

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Dallas Braden is still on the Market, was a 3.50 ERA guy the last full season he pitched, wa a 3.00 ERA guy the season before he got injured.

Carlos Lee is still out there, had 40 Extra base hits

i would even give Grady Sizemore a look on the very cheap as a DH, he seemed to get hurt in the field, he might be ok when he just has to hit
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:25 PM

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--- Kent34 wrote:


montgocm wrote: I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:


indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:


buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006



What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

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Not here to make freinds, just here to state absolute facts like i've done all along

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Well no one needed to say he was respected because no one was attacking him. Disagreeing with someone does not mean a lack of respect. And plenty of posters agree with plenty of his posts.

He said that the numbers for hitting with 2-outs and men on fluctuate wildly year by year due to sample size. He is right and used facts to back up his opinion. He was not trolling. You currently are.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:27 PM

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Dallas Braden is still on the Market, was a 3.50 ERA guy the last full season he pitched, wa a 3.00 ERA guy the season before he got injured.

Carlos Lee is still out there, had 40 Extra base hits

i would even give Grady Sizemore a look on the very cheap as a DH, he seemed to get hurt in the field, he might be ok when he just has to hit

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Sizemore had another micro-fracture surgery in September so won't be ready to play until late in the season, if he plays at all.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:27 PM

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indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:


montgocm wrote: I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:


indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:


buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006



What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

---------------------------------------------

Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

---------------------------------------------
Not here to make freinds, just here to state absolute facts like i've done all along

---------------------------------------------

Well no one needed to say he was respected because no one was attacking him. Disagreeing with someone does not mean a lack of respect. And plenty of posters agree with plenty of his posts.

He said that the numbers for hitting with 2-outs and men on fluctuate wildly year by year due to sample size. He is right and used facts to back up his opinion. He was not trolling. You currently are.
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better noidea funny he dissappears when you post excited stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:47 PM

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Kent34 wrote:
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better noidea funny he dissappears when you post excited stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end


The point is that buddy's reply to your post was in no way disrespectful or condescending. He simply disagreed with you. And if you can't handle people disagreeing with your opinions, then a sports forum (or any forum for that matter) is not a good venue for you.

And yes, buddy is a well respected poster on this forum and of course there is no poster on this forum that everyone agrees with 100% of the time.

I suggest you tone it down a bit if you want to remain a poster on this forum. The one thing the moderators don't tolerate is attacking other posters.

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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:52 PM

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TitoFrancona wrote:
Kent34 wrote:
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better noidea funny he dissappears when you post excited stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end


The point is that buddy's reply to your post was in no way disrespectful or condescending. He simply disagreed with you. And if you can't handle people disagreeing with your opinions, then a sports forum (or any forum for that matter) is not a good venue for you.

And yes, buddy is a well respected poster on this forum and of course there is no poster on this forum that everyone agrees with 100% of the time.

I suggest you tone it down a bit if you want to remain a poster on this forum. The one thing the moderators don't tolerate is attacking other posters.

How many Handles do you have on here? heres the 4th by my count
I dont need to tone anything down, No he is NOT a respected poster, according to MANY MANY MANY other threads ive seen people calling him out, proving him wrong

How many Troll accounts do you have? Mods must really suck here to allow you to post
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Posted: 12/23/2012 10:56 PM

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Kent34 wrote:
TitoFrancona wrote:
Kent34 wrote:
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better noidea funny he dissappears when you post excited stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end


The point is that buddy's reply to your post was in no way disrespectful or condescending. He simply disagreed with you. And if you can't handle people disagreeing with your opinions, then a sports forum (or any forum for that matter) is not a good venue for you.

And yes, buddy is a well respected poster on this forum and of course there is no poster on this forum that everyone agrees with 100% of the time.

I suggest you tone it down a bit if you want to remain a poster on this forum. The one thing the moderators don't tolerate is attacking other posters.

How many Handles do you have on here? heres the 4th by my count
I dont need to tone anything down, No he is NOT a respected poster, according to MANY MANY MANY other threads ive seen people calling him out, proving him wrong

How many Troll accounts do you have? Mods must really suck here to allow you to post
The entire board is actually made up of one person with a bunch of screen names and you, Kent.
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Posted: 12/23/2012 11:08 PM

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Buddy is probably the most respected member of the board.
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