durmiente wrote: A bit tough to project this but I believe they are not done. They offered Edwin Jackson a contract while the offer was on the table for Swisher, which makes me believe they will go hard after either Marcum or Lohse. I think the Swisher signing will only help the Indians attract one of these two guys.

I also think it's possible they go after a DH. I would love trading for Soriano from the Cubs, that would give us an incredible lineup if we are willing to part with some prospects. However, other options include Berkman, Hafner, and Thome, which all have risks of injury. I think Young could also be a good asset as a 4th OF/DH guy. It is possible they use DH as a rotation but if they can find the right guy, they should do a dedicated DH. Someone with the power of Soriano would work better as a cleanup hitter instead of Santana/Swisher/Reynolds. Right now I don't really like any of those guys in cleanup.

Hoping Stubbs has a bounceback year. If he hits like it's 2010 he can be a great asset. However not sure what was with 2011-2012. I heard he may have been injured?

In any case they could find a good lefty to platoon with Stubbs or just go with him full time. I think he's a great defensive CF that might make sense to play full time and hope he can figure things out at the plate.

Honestly I really hope they go for Lohse/Marcum first and then try for a cheap but good DH option via trade. I think its possible they trade Cabrera but part of me doesn't want to see that... as Cabrera would really help us as is.

I am glad we aren't doing a "conventional" rebuild, as I'd hate to sit through that and watch it.

As far as rotation goes, I think it will look something like this:


1-Masterson
2-Lohse or Marcum or other FA/trade option
3-McCallister
4-Jimenez
5-Carrasco

Not entirely sure they will throw Bauer in the mix right away. If they do it will be at 4/5. Don't want to pressure the kid.

Also Carrasco could be higher up if he's fully healed up.

tribefan40 wrote: Brantley
Cabrera
Kipnis
Swisher
Reynolds
Chisenhall
Santana
Carp or Justin Smoak in a trade (DH)
Stubbs

I love Stubbs speed at the bottom of the lineup. I'd try to trade for Smoak or Carp to DH, who aren't gonna get playing time in SEA, now that they got Morales(1b), Ibanez(RF), and already have Montero DHing.

Aviles
Marson or Yan Gomes
McDade or McGuiness
Carrera

Masterson
Kyle Lohse/Chris Capuano/Joe Saunders (Lohse would be ace if he signed here)
McAllister
Ubaldo
Bauer or Carrasco (Depends on who wins it out of Spring)

I LOVE Kyle Lohse. If we sign him, I think we WILL win the Division. Esp. if Ubaldo has a decent enough season. I'd really like the very available Chris Capuano from the stacked LAD team, who we're interested in. Saunders would be a solid innings eater too. Hope we don't trade Masterson.

C. Perez
Pestano
Smith
Shaw
C. Allen
Albers/Hagadone/Huff
Scott Barnes

I would trade one of the rightys in the pen (preferrably Albers, throw in a prospect for a DH like Carp/Smoak) and add either David Huff or Hagadone in the pen so we can have a couple leftys.



I think what I just wrote is a playoff team.

buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006

indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:

buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006

What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:

buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006

What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

montgocm wrote: I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:

indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:

buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006

What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

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montgocm wrote: I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:

indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:

buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006

What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

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indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:

montgocm wrote: I think you're going to make fast friends around here.

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--- Kent34 wrote:

indiansfan1234 wrote:

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--- Kent34 wrote:

buddy34 wrote: these numbers jump around a lot year to year due to small sample sizes.

in 2011, those numbers were 1.149 and .608
in 2010, 1.431 and .572
in 2009, .277 and 1.006

What where they in the year that matters most when they made the playoffs? (2012) seriously how miserable if you're life you have nothing better to do then Troll an indans board?

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Lol, what? You have 10 posts on here and buddy is a respected member of the board that doesn't insult people.

1) nobody cares about post count
2) you're the first ive seen call him respected going back in other threads, most seem to disagree with his points, you must be his alto ego

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Not here to make freinds, just here to state absolute facts like i've done all along

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Well no one needed to say he was respected because no one was attacking him. Disagreeing with someone does not mean a lack of respect. And plenty of posters agree with plenty of his posts.

He said that the numbers for hitting with 2-outs and men on fluctuate wildly year by year due to sample size. He is right and used facts to back up his opinion. He was not trolling. You currently are.

Kent34 wrote:
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better funny he dissappears when you post stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end

The point is that buddy's reply to your post was in no way disrespectful or condescending. He simply disagreed with you. And if you can't handle people disagreeing with your opinions, then a sports forum (or any forum for that matter) is not a good venue for you.

And yes, buddy is a well respected poster on this forum and of course there is no poster on this forum that everyone agrees with 100% of the time.

I suggest you tone it down a bit if you want to remain a poster on this forum. The one thing the moderators don't tolerate is attacking other posters.

TitoFrancona wrote:

Kent34 wrote:
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better funny he dissappears when you post stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end

The point is that buddy's reply to your post was in no way disrespectful or condescending. He simply disagreed with you. And if you can't handle people disagreeing with your opinions, then a sports forum (or any forum for that matter) is not a good venue for you.

And yes, buddy is a well respected poster on this forum and of course there is no poster on this forum that everyone agrees with 100% of the time.

I suggest you tone it down a bit if you want to remain a poster on this forum. The one thing the moderators don't tolerate is attacking other posters.

Kent34 wrote:

TitoFrancona wrote:

Kent34 wrote:
i have yet to sees someone other then you're self agree with you're i mean his post
not sure how stating the absolute fact 2012 is the only year that matters since you know Players do get better funny he dissappears when you post stay off my jock troll boy you'll only get owned in the end

The point is that buddy's reply to your post was in no way disrespectful or condescending. He simply disagreed with you. And if you can't handle people disagreeing with your opinions, then a sports forum (or any forum for that matter) is not a good venue for you.

And yes, buddy is a well respected poster on this forum and of course there is no poster on this forum that everyone agrees with 100% of the time.

I suggest you tone it down a bit if you want to remain a poster on this forum. The one thing the moderators don't tolerate is attacking other posters.

How many Handles do you have on here? heres the 4th by my count
I dont need to tone anything down, No he is NOT a respected poster, according to MANY MANY MANY other threads ive seen people calling him out, proving him wrong

How many Troll accounts do you have? Mods must really suck here to allow you to post