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RA Dickey

Posted: 12/14/2012 11:38 AM

RA Dickey 


Does this guy interest anyone as a FOR guy to target in a trade. Curious as to what people think. I know we lack ML ready prospects as trade chips, but I also have no idea what the Mets would be looking for in return. They clearly do not value the guy relative to his production.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:51 AM

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I think they are asking a ton for him.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:04 PM

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I'm not interested at all in this 1 year wonder do not believe he will come remotely close to those numbers again JMHO.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:31 PM

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I'm not interested at all in this 1 year wonder do not believe he will come remotely close to those numbers again JMHO.

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Check out his last three years. Great pitcher.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 12:49 PM

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We do not begin to have the farm system to put this deal together they want like the Indians ready now guys they have the same problems we do as far as the minors go.

He is way too old and not the direction we should go in we need to add another ready starter type we did with Bauer.

Plus they would ask for a package build around Chiz or Kipnis to get him that is the crazy type deal they would ask for from us.


MrBananaGrabber85 wrote:

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I'm not interested at all in this 1 year wonder do not believe he will come remotely close to those numbers again JMHO.

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Check out his last three years. Great pitcher.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 1:12 PM

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Nice try on changing the argument

I said they would ask a ton and then you claimed that he was a "one year wonder". I pointed to his last three years, and you tried to refute that with letting me know we shouldn't go after him.
kcatthebat wrote: We do not begin to have the farm system to put this deal together they want like the Indians ready now guys they have the same problems we do as far as the minors go.

He is way too old and not the direction we should go in we need to add another ready starter type we did with Bauer.

Plus they would ask for a package build around Chiz or Kipnis to get him that is the crazy type deal they would ask for from us.


MrBananaGrabber85 wrote:

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--- kcatthebat wrote:

I'm not interested at all in this 1 year wonder do not believe he will come remotely close to those numbers again JMHO.

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Check out his last three years. Great pitcher.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 2:31 PM

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I would positively love having RA Dickey. He's a fine, fine pitcher and any knuckleballer who gets to this point in his career (i.e. he's finally "established") has many good years ahead of him in the major leagues. He would be an asset to any staff. But as pointed out, the Mets are asking for ton (and so will Dickey eventually) making any real discussion moot.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 3:11 PM

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Man, I would not give up much for the guy.  Cy Young or no Cy Young. 

Granted he is a knuckleballer, but 38 years old having "just figured it out" scares me.  It's like the Browns drafting a 30 year old rookie QB.How many more years can he be counted on?  Why are the Mets so anxious to move him?  If Santana is healthy that is a pretty decent rotation.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 3:21 PM

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The Mets don't seem to be, "anxious to move him." They have asked for a ton for him.

Also, it would be the same reason we wanted to move Choo, Cabrera, and Perez. They need young players, and fast. His is great, but they are terrible.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:18 PM

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The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:37 PM

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greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:48 PM

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I believe Wright going to be a success in the majors and that the Indians made the deal after investing years in developing his repitoire.
CalBuckeyeRob wrote:
greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:01 PM

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Years?

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I believe Wright going to be a success in the majors and that the Indians made the deal after investing years in developing his repitoire.
CalBuckeyeRob wrote:
greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue


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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:06 PM

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MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: Years? 2007-2012

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I believe Wright going to be a success in the majors and that the Indians made the deal after investing years in developing his repitoire.
CalBuckeyeRob wrote:
greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue


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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:09 PM

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greggleeb wrote: I believe Wright going to be a success in the majors and that the Indians made the deal after investing years in developing his repitoire.
CalBuckeyeRob wrote:
greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue
Cleveland was crazy to trade Wright to the BoSox. Wakefield was a main stay for years and will have an input. Lars Anderson never played a game with the big club and was a throw in the choo deal. Oh well, 5 years from now he might win the Cy Young award. LOL  Cleveland is interested in Dickey??  We had Dickey JR., and gave him away for a bag of nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:13 PM

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I don't feel you are being sarcastic.  Boston does have a track record with knuckle ball pitchers and Wakefield will work with Wright.  Wright had a pretty good year at Akron before being trade and pitched well AAA after being promoted.
bayside123 wrote:
greggleeb wrote: I believe Wright going to be a success in the majors and that the Indians made the deal after investing years in developing his repitoire.
CalBuckeyeRob wrote:
greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue
Cleveland was crazy to trade Wright to the BoSox. Wakefield was a main stay for years and will have an input. Lars Anderson never played a game with the big club and was a throw in the choo deal. Oh well, 5 years from now he might win the Cy Young award. LOL
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:15 PM

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He is a 1 year wonder to me just due to the fact the only thing impressive about 2011 & 2010 was his ERA his innings to K's were not great. 

But in 2012 ( 1 Year ) everything clicked what makes you think he will be close to those numbers in 2013 if pitching in the American League.

We will see how he does in the American League when he gets dealt to the Blue Jays but IMHO looking back at Tim Wakefield who had one of the best Knucleballs I have ever seen in the American League as a starter his ERA was a over 4 and inclined from there.


MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: Nice try on changing the argument

I said they would ask a ton and then you claimed that he was a "one year wonder". I pointed to his last three years, and you tried to refute that with letting me know we shouldn't go after him.
kcatthebat wrote: We do not begin to have the farm system to put this deal together they want like the Indians ready now guys they have the same problems we do as far as the minors go.

He is way too old and not the direction we should go in we need to add another ready starter type we did with Bauer.

Plus they would ask for a package build around Chiz or Kipnis to get him that is the crazy type deal they would ask for from us.


MrBananaGrabber85 wrote:

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I'm not interested at all in this 1 year wonder do not believe he will come remotely close to those numbers again JMHO.

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Check out his last three years. Great pitcher.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:17 PM

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Hey,they thought enough of him to keep him on the 40 man roster???????????
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:24 PM

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Everybody in baseball recognizes that you do not judge a knuckleballer by the same standards as other pitcher.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:26 PM

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Knuckler became his primary pitch in 2011.

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MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: Years? 2007-2012

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--- greggleeb wrote:

I believe Wright going to be a success in the majors and that the Indians made the deal after investing years in developing his repitoire.
CalBuckeyeRob wrote:
greggleeb wrote: The Indians had an up and coming knuckle ball pitcher in Wright who was only 28.  They traded him to Boston in the Lars Anderson deal.  FWIW Wright is on Boston 40 man roster.   He ended up pitching in AAA for Boston.
Lars was clearly the key to the Bauer deal.  tongue


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