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Cleveland going after Nick Swisher !!!!

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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:16 PM

Cleveland going after Nick Swisher !!!! 


I'm like a lot of ya' on here = I'll believe it , when I see it. Been sooooooo let down with this comical regime the last few seasons, and all of the guys they've been "supposedly" close with.....Carlos Beltran.....Willingham.....Ryan Ludwick....now Victorino.  Oh well, just forwarding the article. Hopefully this one will actually take place. I would actually prefer Nick, over Shane Victorino. Younger, can play 1st base, and obviously WAY more pop in the bat. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...ians/index.html

Last edited 12/5/2012 1:19 PM by TopDawgDixon

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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:19 PM

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TopDawgDixon wrote: I'm like a lot of ya' on here = I'll believe it , when I see it. Been sooooooo let down with this comical regime the last few seasons, and all of the guys they've been "supposedly" close with.....Carlos Beltran.....Willingham.....Ryan Ludwick....now Victorino.  Oh well, just forwarding the article. Hopefully this one will actually take place. I would actually prefer Nick, over Shane Victorino. Younger, can play 1st base, and obviously WAY more pop in the bat.
My assumption is that they would have to overpay for Swisher. Given that there was a willingness to do so for Victorinio, then I would think that might also apply to Swisher. I just don't see him wanting to come here but, I certainly would far rather see Swisher in an Indians' uni than Bay.

Bring in Swisher, and acquire Bauer, Olt and Skaggs, and I would look at this as a damn good off season.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:38 PM

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Swisher's Ks and general streakiness would make him really, really unpopular.

Of course, I don't care about that.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:40 PM

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I just remember the last time he played in the AL Central. eek

Hopefully he would be able to play outside of the bright lights on New York.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:58 PM

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Don't think we would necessarily have to overpay - he grew up a Cleveland fan and is very pro Ohio.

If we can afford 4/44 for Victorino, we can afford 4/52 for Swisher.

IMO, he is the best FA fit for us on the market, even with the guys that have already signed elsewhere.

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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:59 PM

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If we sign Swisher and pull off the rumored deals involving Choo and Cabrera, then this team has a chance to be decent.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:59 PM

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TampaBrett wrote: Don't think we would necessarily have to overpay - he grew up a Cleveland fan and is very pro Ohio.

See I didn't realize that until 5 minutes ago. I had no idea he grew up in Ohio.

Interesting.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:02 PM

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Swisher would be a terrific fit for Cleveland's current needs. He'd also provide the flexibility of position to have him useful in the future.

I'm not a Buckeye, but I can see that being a little boost for interest sake as well.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:03 PM

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Oh, we'll overpay if we want to land any decent FA.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:04 PM

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This is totally pedantic, but he actually grew up in Parkersburg, WV. He was born in Columbus and went to Ohio State, though.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:13 PM

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Terry Francona personally called to pitch the Tribe to Swisher according to MLBTR.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:13 PM

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And he was Billy Beane's object of affection in Moneyball. Does any of this really matter? Oh and his wife is an actress on primetime TV so she probably wants to be in Cleveland as much as anyone else in Hollywood.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:15 PM

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Dromag67 wrote: Terry Francona personally called to pitch the Tribe to Swisher according to MLBTR.

Francona's going to quickly learn his charisma cannot overcome the bad image possessed by the Cleveland franchise/market.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:16 PM

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DCTribefan wrote:
Dromag67 wrote: Terry Francona personally called to pitch the Tribe to Swisher according to MLBTR.

Francona's going to quickly learn his charisma cannot overcome the bad image possessed by the Cleveland franchise/market.
Yeah I still am baffled as to why Cleveland was so alluring to him though. LOL
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:22 PM

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swisher will - and should - get a considerably better deal than victorino. they're both 32, and swisher is a much, much better hitter. victorino wins on defense and baserunning, but swisher is no manny ramirez out there.

and i agree - if they can offer victorino 4/44, they can offer swisher 4/52.

i'm queasy about it, but it doesn't make me want to vomit like the victorino offer does.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:26 PM

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DCTribefan wrote: And he was Billy Beane's object of affection in Moneyball. Does any of this really matter? Oh and his wife is an actress on primetime TV so she probably wants to be in Cleveland as much as anyone else in Hollywood.
Yes, it could conceivably make a difference unless Swisher plans on going to the highest bidder.  It is analogous to head coaches visiting potential college recruits 

A call from Francona is intended to sell Swisher on the non-monetary benefits in signing with the Tribe.  Bear in mind that Francona has extra credibility because he could have signed with another team and likely for more money.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:35 PM

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DCTribefan wrote: Oh, we'll overpay if we want to land any decent FA.

The term "overpay" is bandied about a lot.  What do you mean by overpay, exactly? That the Tribe will have to pay more than another club simply because we are Cleveland?
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:37 PM

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AustinTribeFan wrote:
DCTribefan wrote: Oh, we'll overpay if we want to land any decent FA.

The term "overpay" is bandied about a lot.  What do you mean by overpay, exactly? That the Tribe will have to pay more than another club simply because we are Cleveland?
The price of Cleveland.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:39 PM

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AustinTribeFan wrote:
DCTribefan wrote: Oh, we'll overpay if we want to land any decent FA.

The term "overpay" is bandied about a lot.  What do you mean by overpay, exactly? That the Tribe will have to pay more than another club simply because we are Cleveland?

I'm not sure if that is what people mean when they say it a lot, but I do think that is true in most instances.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 2:40 PM

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JenniferMarie wrote:
DCTribefan wrote: And he was Billy Beane's object of affection in Moneyball. Does any of this really matter? Oh and his wife is an actress on primetime TV so she probably wants to be in Cleveland as much as anyone else in Hollywood.
Yes, it could conceivably make a difference unless Swisher plans on going to the highest bidder.  It is analogous to head coaches visiting potential college recruits 

A call from Francona is intended to sell Swisher on the non-monetary benefits in signing with the Tribe.  Bear in mind that Francona has extra credibility because he could have signed with another team and likely for more money.
Jen: While I appreciate and deeply respect the insights expressed in most of your posts, I have to vehemently disagree with you on this one. I don't think the football coach analogy is applicable because these are professional athletes chasing the almighty dollar, not some campus hottie or the best training facility buffet.  Their priorities differ greatly from a college bound athlete.  And I don't believe Francona gained credibility with MLB players by signing with the Tribe.  Quite the opposite, I believe his cred took a hit because players probably think (rightly so) that he could have had his choice of managerial jobs and others that probably would have paid more $$$ and offered a quicker path to the playoffs.
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