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buddy34 wrote: i'm not sure they were worse, but damn, they WERE bad. the highlight was manny in 1991. they also got paul byrd, chad ogea and albie lopez that year. they got CC in 98, sean casey in 95 but man, there was a lot of chaff in between. lots of wasted #1 picks.many, many swings and misses.
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MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: Any balanced analysis would involve the disastrous trades of Giles, Burnitz, Sexaon, et al.
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ronfh wrote: MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: Any balanced analysis would involve the disastrous trades of Giles, Burnitz, Sexaon, et al.And it would include the good trades and FA signings.I'll take the drafts of the 90s over the drafts of the 00s any day.
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MrBananaGrabber85 wrote: Any balanced analysis would involve the disastrous trades of Giles, Burnitz, Sexaon, et al.But none of that fits the narrative that 95% of somebody's posts.
Posted: 12/23/2012 11:36 AM
Hey, Hoynsie: It seems that Brad Grant is doing a pretty good job, but who were the Tribe's primary talent evaluators (both pro and amateur) under John Hart in the early 1990s? Between drafting (Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome, Albert Belle, Charlie Nagy), trades (Sandy Alomar Jr., Kenny Lofton, Carlos Baerga) and even free agents (Eddie Murray, Orel Hershiser, Dennis Martinez) those guys clearly had a better eye for talent than the recent guys. -- Steven Phillips, Philadelphia
Hey, Steven: Jeff Scott, the Indians' director of scouting, drafted Belle in the second round in 1987 and Nagy in the first round of 1988. Joe Klein and Danny O'Brien were running the front office in 1987, but Hank Peters was running the show in 1988 and he brought two key players with him from Baltimore, Hart and Dan O'Dowd. In 1989, Peters was in charge, the late Chet Montgomery was director of scouting and O'Dowd was farm director when Thome was taken in the 13th round. Mickey White was the scouting director when the Indians took Ramirez in the first round in 1991 with Peters still calling the shots.
When the Indians sent Joe Carter to San Diego for Sandy Alomar Jr., Carlos Baerga and Chris James in December 1989, Peters was the CEO/GM with Hart doing a lot of the leg work as a scout. One of Hart's first official acts after succeeding Peters as GM in September 1991 was acquiring Lofton from Houston at the winter meetings. White was director of scouting.
Hart, with O'Dowd serving as assistant general manager, signed Murray and Martinez as free agents after the 1993 season and Hershiser just before the 1995 season.Link