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Offseason Trade Targets

Posted: 10/18/2012 6:20 PM

Offseason Trade Targets 


With Ludwick questionable to return, the farm system devoid of MLB ready OF talent and the Free Agent market either being expensive (Hamilton, Bourn, Swisher, Upton) or underwhelming (most everyone else) the next option would be to explore the trade market.  Here are some guys I see as possible and plausible trade targets:

Michael Morse, Nationals:  With Werth and Harper entrenched in their spots and Washington being rumored to pursue Bourn and Upton, that leaves Morse without a spot (especially considering they have Tyler Moore, who is 5 year younger version of Morse).  He hits for power and average and he'll never be confused for Mike Trout in the field but could be had without gutting your minor league system.  With the rumored interest in Bourn and Upton, maybe they would have interest in Stubbs as part of the package although that's probably just wishful thinking

Gerrardo Parra/Jason Kubel, Diamondbacks:  The Diamondbacks would like to have Adam Eaton in CF full time in 2013 leaving them with 5 guys for 3 spots.  Upton, Parra, Kubel, Young and Eaton.  They will try to get rid of Young and will listen on Upton but they would have to eat significant money on Young and Upton will be expensive.  Parra is excellent defensively and can play all 3 OF spots, is decent with the bat and is only 25 years old and under team control through 2015.  Kubel tailed off after a flaming hot start to the season but still ended with 30 HR and an OPS of .833 and is owed $8.5M on a rental or $15M over 2 years.  Again, not great in the field and doesn't hit lefties well at all but gives you power

Denard Span, Twins:  This was rumored at the deadline but never came to fruition and he is expendable with Ben Revere and Joe Benson waiting in the wings.  He's signed under a team friendly contract and can leadoff and play CF.  A Hamilton/Span top of the order would get speed and on base ability in front of Votto and the outfield would certainly be covered.  He probably won't come cheap, but again, you wouldn't have to gut the farm system to get him.

Dexter Fowler/Eric Young, Rockies:  With CarGo in Left and Cuddyer in Right, there are 2 guys for 1 spot in Center for the Rockies.  Both are switch hitters who are great on base guys.  Young has better base stealing ability but both are great defensively and under team control until at least 2015.  Either one would look great in Center and slide over to Left once Hamilton is ready.

Chase Headley, Padres:  This would be buying high, so he would probably be too expensive for what you'd be getting.  Frazier would be moved to left and Headley would be a great upgrade to the lineup.  Again though, at what cost?

Mike Olt, Rangers:  Olt is a highly regarded prospect, so he would probably be expensive, but he's blocked by Beltre.  He could take over for Mitch Moreland at 1B so he may not even be available but it would be worth asking.

Obviously, this is a rough list, so I'm sure I missed some but just thought I would get a discussion started.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 6:53 PM

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Morse would be a dream, that bat in our park would be 40+ homers every year, easily.

I would pass on the Rockies guys, and Chase Headley, I think Frazier will do just fine at 3B. 

Kubel or Parra would be solid, as would Span. I know nothing about Mike Olt.

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Posted: 10/18/2012 8:00 PM

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If this were July I'd have mortgaged my house to donate to the sign Jason Kubel fund. Now, not so much. He didn't just finish the season in a slump, he fell off a cliff, and then into a deep ravine, and then somehow he managed to get under the ravine where he fell into a black hole. He hasn't been seen or heard from since.

I don't know if the scenario would ever play out that we'd have EYJr and Hamilton on the same team or if would even be of any benefit. But I do know that you'd have to watch those games in slow motion to keep track of the bases being stolen.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 1:06 PM

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Olt was untouchable at the deadline. Can't imagine much has changed.

Would LOVE the former Husky though!

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Posted: 10/19/2012 1:42 PM

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Not a trade target but if the Giants allow Angel Pagan to walk in FA, he'd be at the top of my list.
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Posted: 10/19/2012 11:21 PM

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IamRV wrote: Not a trade target but if the Giants allow Angel Pagan to walk in FA, he'd be at the top of my list.
agreed

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Posted: 10/20/2012 7:22 AM

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What's Pagan's current contract look like? Or more to the point I wonder what his next one would have to be to get him. I'd be all for Pagan if it were a possibility.
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Posted: 10/20/2012 7:50 AM

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ChrisSabo wrote: What's Pagan's current contract look like? Or more to the point I wonder what his next one would have to be to get him. I'd be all for Pagan if it were a possibility.
He made $4.85M on a 1 year deal this year buying out his final arbitration year and put up, for the most part, his "back of the baseball card" stats.  However, like Ludwick, his performance in the playoffs will likely get him more years and more $$$ than he's worth.  I would not be surprised to see him get 4/36 from someone
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Posted: 10/21/2012 10:30 AM

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Morse is an interesting idea, but I think he is a long shot. No clue what LaRoche is going to do with that option which would probably dictate what they do in the outfield. If LaRoche doesn't agree to the option, Morse goes back to 1B and rotates with the OF when Moore plays, IMO.
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Posted: 10/21/2012 12:12 PM

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wvubassrfl wrote: Morse is an interesting idea, but I think he is a long shot. No clue what LaRoche is going to do with that option which would probably dictate what they do in the outfield. If LaRoche doesn't agree to the option, Morse goes back to 1B and rotates with the OF when Moore plays, IMO.
I agree.  If LaRoche doesn't re-sign it makes it less and less likely Morse would be dealt.  I also don't think Washington would hang up the phone if you called on him even if LaRoche leaves since Moore's best position is 1B as well.  Of course, this is all based on their interests in OFers on the free agent market
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Posted: 10/21/2012 1:17 PM

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Posted: 10/21/2012 6:02 PM

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Wonder what it would take to get Cody Ross?  Reportedly he will be available...

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Posted: 10/21/2012 6:45 PM

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mardigan wrote: Wonder what it would take to get Cody Ross?  Reportedly he will be available...
He's a free agent.  Was on a 1/$3M contract last year but outplayed that contract.  I would think he would get a multi year deal in the $5-7M range
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Posted: 10/21/2012 8:30 PM

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With no post season thread, well, none past the first round anyway, I will just post this here.....I have no idea what will happen later tonight or tomorrow if it comes to that, but I LOVE watching Karen Carpenter get beat like a red headed step child. It makes me happy in ways and at level it probably shouldn't.
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Posted: 10/22/2012 7:32 PM

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Is it too naughty to picture Spuds tied up like Gyp Rosetti fapping away over Carpenter's lifeless body? Or is that too Dexter/SVU and already jumped the shark? ;-)



btw, I wouldn't bless him with pearls but I would not hesitate to drown Carpenter in my pee...
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Posted: 10/22/2012 8:37 PM

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Well, I don't want you picturing that ever, ever, ever but if its Gilian on the other end of said tie, I might ;).

Gyps growing on me. If they'd drop every single female related story (sorry it's true) save for Gilian and her.....house, and focus on the damn gangsters I'd be happy and they'd also overcome the most miscast lead in the history of modern television.

EDIT- holy crap, this is the Reds board. For a second I thought I'd read that and posted my reply on my account over on the bangbros forum.

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Posted: 10/22/2012 9:54 PM

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And to totally (and temporarily) hijack this thread.....seeing horse teeth Andrews in SF makes me miss Amy G.
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Posted: 10/24/2012 11:09 AM

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what about upton for cozart for upton straight up? i mean granted we be dependent on didi to be able to play in the mlb.... just a though since Arizona is looking for a long term short shop
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Posted: 10/24/2012 11:35 AM

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^Oh my, keep dreamin'......
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Posted: 10/24/2012 12:01 PM

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merkrj wrote: what about upton for cozart for upton straight up?

We wouldn't get Upton once in that deal, let alone twice.
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