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RE: Non-Red Rumors 3.0 - Hot Stove 2011-12 Discussion
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Posted: 12/21/2012 9:11 AM
RE: Non-Red Rumors 3.0 - Hot Stove 2011-12 Discussion
Why would anyone pitching for the Cubs WANT a no trade clause.  cincykid wrote:By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 20, 2012 at 2:24pm CST] The Cubs have agreed to sign Edwin Jackson to a four-year, $52MM contract, Patrick Mooney of CSNChicago.com reports (on Twitter). The deal includes a no-trade clause, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter). The agreement between the Cubs and the Legacy Sports Group client is pending a physical. Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/cubs-to-sign -edwin-jackson.html#cAHvkuXqXOodJJM6.99
kots mentioned jackson in his trade thoughts, as a reason to keep an open mind on dealing homer, and this contract backs him up. How is he worth this? Hell, he has given up more hits than innings in all but 4 seasons and 2 of those 4 were call ups, early on in career. I sure do not see the value at all. If he is worth that homer or any of our staff would bring one hell of a haul. I'm not into dealing arms now but if we stumble or can't get dudes extended man o man I'm slobbering at what we could reel in. Now imo we are just not deep enough on the farm to deal starters. I'd listen to offers though, have to with this dude getting 52 mill / 4 and no trade too. Jeeeeeeeeeez.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:08 AM
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Yeah, that was a very nice thing for him to do. cincykid wrote: I knew this kid was a good dude before he was drafted. Anyone named buster posey is OK by me. Older but is Good News.
It is simply amazing what Buster Posey has been able to accomplish in his first three seasons in Major League Baseball with the San Francisco Giants. A Rookie of the Year, a pair of World Series Rings and a National League MVP… But what Posey did this past week might possibly be the greatest feat of his incredible young career. For winning the NL MVP, Posey received either $10,000 in cash or $10,000 worth of equipment from Louisville Slugger. And the first person he called was none other than his High School Head Coach Rob Williams at Lee County High School in Leesburg, Georgia. The phone call was a simple, “Hey Coach… Pull out the Louisville Slugger catalog and start shopping …” Williams is a legend in Leesburg and in Georgia High School Baseball and is revered by Posey as the man who mentored him to where he is today. “This allows us to buy not only the need to haves, but it also allows us to get a few of the would like to have items,” Williams said of the gift . During a conversation with Williams back at the beginning of November, he said that he gets an occasional text from Posey or a phone call here and there. But there is no doubt Williams was floored and elated with this conversation with Posey last week. With Posey, American Idol Winner and Musical Superstar Phillip Phillips and Country Music Superstar Luke Bryan all born and bred in Leesburg, Lee County and its high school is now officially on the map. And it is simply amazing to see Posey give back to his hometown and the kids who are working to follow in his footsteps. Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2012/12/10/buster-po sey-donates-mvp-bonus-to-lee-county-high-school/?C pBOfgG7izjcpGZx.99
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Posted: 12/27/2012 12:27 PM
RE: Non-Red Rumors 3.0 - Hot Stove 2011-12 Discussion
By Zach Links [December 26 at 6:56pm CST] Earlier today, the Red Sox and the Pirates finalized the trade that will send closer Joel Hanrahan to Boston. The swap has Hanrahan and infielder Brock Holt joining the Red Sox with outfielder Jerry Sands, right-handers Stolmy Pimentel and Mark Melancon, and Ivan De Jesus Jr. going to Pittsburgh. Here's a look at some of the reactions to the trade.. Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#6XRgJmvhSFarSfsd.99Reading about the deal I think pitt did good. All 4 have some serious potential from looking at their minors and ml history. Like sands, has a bat. 289, 376 ob, 562 slg combined minors. 1st and corner of. 86 and 102 rbi's last 2 years on the farm for LA. 253, 338 with the dodgers in 2011, 61 gms. A 25th rounder in 08. A nice sleeper find here. Gotta love it. Ivan sports a 298, 370 obp on the farm combined, leadoff potential there I think. I'd like to have sands in red. Have to see if hanrahan cuts down the walks.
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Posted: 12/29/2012 12:04 PM
RE: Non-Red Rumors 3.0 - Hot Stove 2011-12 Discussion
By Mike Axisa [December 29 at 8:48am CST] With power becoming harder to find, lots of teams are shifting towards a contact-oriented offense. They seek players who can hit for average and put the ball in play to force the defense's hand, move runners over, all sorts of stuff. Few players manage to be above-average at both hitting for power and putting the ball in play, but Miguel Cabrera, Adrian Beltre, Robinson Cano, and Albert Pujols are among those who pull it off. The league average strikeout rate in 2012 was 19.8% (of all plate appearances). Marco Scutaro had the lowest strikeout rate among qualified hitters this year (7.2%) while Jose Reyes was second (7.8%). Adam Dunn, on the other hand, had the highest strikeout rate at 34.2%. Only four other players (Pedro Alvarez, Drew Stubbs, Carlos Pena, Chris Davis) were over 30%. Strikeouts are not the only way to identify hitters who can put the ball in play though, especially in the age of PitchFX. Contact rate, which is available at FanGraphs and uses PitchFX data, is the percentage of contact made with individual swings. The league average contact rate was 79.6% this past season, with Scutaro (95.2%) and Josh Hamilton (64.6%) representing the two extremes. No other player was above 92.6% or below 66.9%. Here are the remaining unsigned free agents who posted better than average strikeout and contact rates in 2012 (min. 200 PA). The lists, as you'll notice, are not identical. Strikeout Rate - Carlos Lee - 8.0%
- Casey Kotchman - 9.8%
- Juan Rivera - 10.3%
- Yuniesky Betancourt - 11.0%
- Johnny Damon - 12.1%
- Ryan Theriot - 12.2%
- Adam Kennedy - 16.4%
- Jose Lopez - 16.5%
- Travis Hafner - 17.5%
- Orlando Hudson - 18.0%
- Yorvit Torrealba - 18.3%
- Delmon Young - 18.4%
- Scott Rolen - 18.8%
- Rod Barajas - 19.1%
Contact Rate - Lee - 89.5%
- Theriot - 89.3%
- Damon - 89.2%
- Kotchman - 87.7%
- Betancourt - 85.3%
- Rivera - 84.8%
- Hudson - 84.6%
- Kennedy - 84.4%
- Rolen - 84.0%
- Lopez - 83.7%
- Bobby Abreu - 82.9%
- Jeff Baker - 80.2%
- Hafner - 79.7%
Damon and Rolen could retire before the end of the offseason, which would further remove from the crop of available contact hitters. Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#fKJssjHz5JuDgBmR.99
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Posted: 1/4/2013 7:38 PM
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Woooooo what a good dude and a good wife. My incessant dreaming, pining for kershaw and leather pants bs rumor coming true woulda been nice. But, the man and his wife are truly doing great things with their cash. Greed has not gotten ahold of him, and looks like it never will. Tip of the cap to them and their crew in Africa. Getty ImagesSteve Dilbeck of the Los Angeles Times gives us the heads up to Clayton Kershaw‘s offseason activities: he and his his wife are in Zambia working at an orphanage their charity foundation sponsors: The small orphanage opened last year, and the Kershaws are there now with a team of 23, bringing additional donations, working on the site and interacting with the first eight orphans … The Kershaws are searching for additional sponsors for the orphans. They wrote that the current eight are sleeping in beds for the first time in their lives.
Kinda puts our complaints about the weather, our post-holidays weight, bowl games, the Hall of Fame and any number of other things in perspective. If you want to follow the Kershaw’s activities and/or see what you can do to help them with the orphanage, go to their blog here, which is being updated by Ellen Kershaw.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 7:45 PM
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The Marlins’ higher-ups have stated over and over again that they have no intention of trading young slugger Giancarlo Stanton. But they’ve been taking phone calls on the matter and will continue to do so. Assistant general manager Dan Jennings told Jim Bowden of ESPN and SiriusXM on Sunday morning that the Marlins “will listen to all offers” on Stanton but that a deal is highly unlikely to take place this winter. Which basically means that the Fish would have to be blown away by an offer to consider it. The Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees, Orioles and Cubs were all known to have interest at one point. Stanton batted .290/.361/.608 with 37 home runs and 86 RBI in 123 games this past season for the Fish. The 23-year-old right fielder isn’t eligible for arbitration until 2014 and is under club control through 2016.
ohhhh just a swangin'......knock knock...........would ya take say ?????????? hummmmmmm.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:14 PM
RE: Non-Red Rumors 3.0 - Hot Stove 2011-12-13 Discussion
EE??????? say wha? Seriously, he did have a helluva year. #11 for MVP 280 avg, 384 obp, 110, yes 110 rbi's-----shiver me timbers!!!!!!!! 13 MLB players to watch in 2013By Tyler Maher on January 2, 2013 12:03 am in American League, National League If Jacoby Ellsbury can stay healthy in 2013, expect him to put up big numbers for the Red Sox. (cbssports.com) As we ring in the new year, here are 13 MLB players to watch as we approach the upcoming 2013 season: Jacoby Ellsbury The speedy Red Sox center fielder is coming off another injury-plagued season, but Boston is counting on him to be the superstar he was in 2011, when he finished runner-up in the AL MVP race to Justin Verlander. This is his contract year and Scott Boras is his agent, so if Ellsbury stays healthy, one would expect him to put up big numbers batting leadoff for Boston’s stacked lineup. Eric Hosmer After a promising rookie campaign in which he batted .293 with 19 home runs at the tender age of 21, Hosmer endured a sophomore slump in which his batting line dropped to .232/.304/.359. Much of his struggles can be attributed to his .255 BABiP. I have a feeling Hosmer, just 23, will take a big step forward next season as he matures into the Joey Votto clone scouts expected him to be. Brett Lawrie Like Hosmer, Toronto’s third baseman displayed flashes of brilliance his rookie year (.953 OPS in 43 games), but underachieved in his second season. Lawrie is even younger than Hosmer (by three months) but is burdened by similarly high expectations (the next Ryan Braun). While Kansas City needs Hosmer to bounce back and help the Royals win, the Blue Jays have surrounded Lawrie with enough fresh talent (Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, Mark Buehrle, R.A. Dickey) that he doesn’t have to try to be the savior. Giancarlo Stanton Led the majors in slugging percentage last year and hit 37 home runs despite missing a quarter of the season. He’s only 23 but already has established himself as one of the top power hitters in the game. If he stays in Miami, it will be interesting to see how he fares next season with no one to get on base in front of him or drive him home. He’s not going to get as many good pitches to hit, so will he accept more walks/pass the baton or become more aggressive and start chasing pitches out of the zone? Manny Machado He was called up in August to supplant Mark Reynolds as Baltimore’s third baseman. While he didn’t exactly set the world on fire, he acquitted himself well at the hot corner while showing promising power for a 20-year-old. The Orioles will fall back to earth next year, but Machado should start taking off. Miguel Cabrera What will the first Triple Crown winner since 1967 do for an encore? Continue to mash, of course. Melky Cabrera Was his newfound greatness a result of the natural aging curve or a PED-fueled illusion? After enjoying a career year in 2011, the Melk Man played at an MVP level in 2012 before testing positive for high testosterone levels in mid-August. He recently signed a two-year, $16 million deal with the Toronto Blue Jays, which I consider to be low-risk, high-reward. If he regresses to the player he was prior to 2011, then he’ll be a bit overpaid. But if he can be anything close to the all-star caliber player he’s been the past two years, that contract will go down as a terrific bargain. He’s still just 28 and in his prime. Edwin Encarnacion Is this late-bloomer for real like teammate Jose Bautista? Or is he merely a one-hit wonder? I think he’s legit. Justin Upton B.J. Upton‘s enigmatic younger brother has been up and down in his big-league career, and his frustrating inconsistencies have caused the Diamondbacks to dangle his name in trade talks. But at 25, he’s just entering his prime and could emerge as the superstar/MVP candidate he’s supposed to be. Tim Lincecum The two-time Cy Young winner was one of the league’s worst pitchers in 2012, leading the National League in earned runs and losses. Manager Bruce Bochy moved him to the bullpen in the playoffs, and the former ace pitched brilliantly, helping San Francisco win its second World Series title in three years. He deserves a shot at regaining his starter’s role, but there are doubts he can be an effective workhorse again. I see him rebounding in 2013, but not to ace-levels. Mariano Rivera The best closer in the history of baseball is 43 and spent most of 2012 recovering from knee surgery. Can he come back? I’m tempted to say no, but wouldn’t be surprised if the timeless Rivera returns to form. Kris Medlen He began last season coming out of Atlanta’s bullpen, but dominated in his brief stint in the starting rotation. Medlen made a dozen starts in 2012 and the Braves won them all. The converted reliever averaged seven innings per start, compiled a microscopic 0.97 ERA and posted an unreal 84/10 K/BB ratio while limiting opponents to .191/.218/.265 figures. Obviously, those numbers are unsustainable, but I don’t think he’s a flash in the pan. Albert Pujols After a pair of down seasons in which his walk rate tumbled as he abandoned his trademark plate discipline, it remains to be seen if the Machine can rediscover the patient approach that made him a three-time MVP in St. Louis. He needs to ditch the Vladimir Guerrero impersonation and stop chasing so many pitches outside the strike zone. The Angels have two other elite hitters in Mike Trout and Josh Hamilton, so Pujols shouldn’t press and feel he has to carry the team on his back. He can afford to sit back and take walks, but will he?
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Posted: 1/16/2013 11:03 PM
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By Mark Polishuk [January 16 at 9:51pm CST] Jeff Frye, Darren Oliver's agent, was apparently not speaking for his client when Frye said earlier this month that Oliver wanted a raise to return to the Blue Jays or else the veteran southpaw would retire, Oliver said during a conference call with reporters (including Shi Davidi of Sportsnet.ca). "I was out of town when that article was written, and I didn't say those things, that was coming from Jeff Frye," Oliver said. "Obviously if I had something to say, I would have said it a long time ago, not once did I ever demand anything from the Blue Jays or Alex [GM Alex Anthopoulos]." The Jays announced today that Oliver would return to pitch in Toronto in 2013. Here are some more items from around the AL East... - David Price's one-year deal with the Rays was structured in a way that both saved Price several hundred thousand dollars in taxes and also gave the Rays the ability to potentially save $4MM in salary deferred to Price in 2014 if the southpaw is dealt by then, reports Jon Paul Morosi for FOX Sports.
- The Red Sox talked to the Nationals about Mike Morse but Washington's asking price was too high, reports Peter Abraham of the Boston Globe. Now that Morse has been dealt to the Mariners, Abraham wonders if Mike Carp is now expendable in Seattle and could fit as left-handed bench depth in Boston.
- Xander Bogaerts is "as close to untouchable as any player in the Boston organization," writes CSNNE.com's Sean McAdam in an interview with the highly-touted Red Sox prospect. Sox GM Ben Cherington reportedly turned down several trade offers involving Bogaerts this winter.
- Mark Hendrickson looked good during a tryout at the Orioles' minicamp today and will pitch again for the team on Friday, reports Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun. We heard earlier this week that Hendrickson is trying to return to the Major Leagues as a sidearm pitcher.
- In AL East news from earlier today, the Orioles extended Buck Showalter and Dan Duquette, the Yankees avoided arbitration with Phil Hughes and the Red Sox made progress with Mike Napoli.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#syJUB2jkH4xWF48v.99
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Posted: 1/16/2013 11:17 PM
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By Mark Polishuk [January 16 at 7:53pm CST] After a surprise playoff berth in 2012, the Orioles definitely wanted to keep manager Buck Showalter and executive VP of baseball operations Dan Duquette in the fold, today announcing that both men had been signed to extensions through the 2018 season. As Showalter's previous deal only ran through next year, his extension removes him from this list of managers and general managers who are entering the final year of their current contracts and will be looking to earn themselves some Showalter-esque job security. This list could be partially incomplete, as some teams don't release terms of front office executives' contracts. Thanks to Cot's Baseball Contracts for many of these details. * Dodgers. No manager in baseball is under the pressure that Don Mattingly faces in 2013. Though the skipper has led Los Angeles to a pair of winning seasons while the club was going through the turmoil of the McCourt ownership sale, Mattingly will be expected to deliver a playoff appearance (at minimum) given how much money the new Dodgers' owners have poured into the franchise. As respected as Mattingly is, the Dodgers could easily make an early managerial change if the team doesn't get off to a strong start. * Rockies. A team known for its unusual management moves (ex-manager Jim Tracy's "handshake deal" and the current split of GM duties between Dan O'Dowd and Bill Geivett) made another one in hiring new manager Walt Weiss, who is serving under just a one-year contract. While this theoretically puts Weiss on the hot seat from day one, you'd think the rookie skipper would be given some rope given that the Rockies are coming off a last-place season and don't look anywhere near contention in 2013. The Denver Post's Troy Renck examined Weiss' unique contract, a situation that Weiss himself embraces. * Cardinals. GM John Mozeliak is entering the last year of his current deal, while manager Mike Matheny is entering his last guaranteed year, though the Cards have a team option on Matheny for 2014. You have to figure that neither man is going anywhere given Cardinals' recent success. Mozeliak is a good bet to receive an extension before Opening Day and Matheny could also receive a new deal given how well the team performed in his first year taking over from Tony La Russa on the St. Louis bench. * Pirates. It's essentially a winning season or else for Clint Hurdle, as the Bucs' collapse down the stretch in 2012 extended the team's streak to a record 20 straight seasons with a sub-.500 record. * Mets. Terry Collins is entering his last season under contract at Citi Field but while the Mets have yet to crack the .500 mark in his two years as manager, one can hardly hold Collins responsible given the team's tumultuous payroll situation. Collins is probably in no danger of being fired and I'd guess he'll be extended through 2014 unless the Mets' performance really craters. * Braves. Fredi Gonzalez is going into his last guaranteed year, though the Braves hold a club option on the skipper for 2014. One would think it would take a real collapse for that option to not get picked up, as Gonzalez has a 183-141 record in his first two years as Atlanta's manager. Of course, the team did famously collapse in September 2011 but the Braves rebounded to grab a playoff berth last season. * Phillies. Before Charlie Manuel signed his last extension, he said that he wanted to manage until he turned 70 and then would discuss his future with Phillies management. Manuel's advancing age may be the excuse the team needs to make a change at manager, especially if the Phils have another underwhelming season. If the Phillies are successful, Manuel and the team could choose to pursue Jim Leyland-style one-year contracts for 2014 and beyond if Manuel has doubts about how much longer he wishes to manage. * Nationals. Unlike many managers on this list, Davey Johnson is entering his last year as manager by choice, as his extension with Washington will only keep him on the bench through 2013 and he will continue as a team consultant in 2014. It seems likely that this will be Johnson's last year of managing as he obviously could have gotten a longer deal had he wished, given the Nats' run to the NL East crown last season. One of the top storylines of the 2013-14 offseason will be who gets the coveted job of Nationals manager, as few jobs in baseball have as much long-term potential. * Mariners. Eric Wedge and Jack Zduriencik are both going into the last year of their deals and following consecutive losing seasons, Seattle may have to see significant improvement on the field if either man is to be retained. The announcement that Safeco Field's fences are being moved in could buy Zduriencik a little time, as he could be given another season to attract hitters to Seattle if it becomes clear that Safeco is no longer an extreme pitchers' park. Zduriencik has been bold in his pursuit of hitting talent this winter, acquiring Kendrys Morales and Michael Morse on top of trying to trade for Justin Upton and going after free agents like Nick Swisher and Josh Hamilton. * Twins. Ron Gardenhire has won six division titles as Minnesota's manager but only has one playoff series victory to his credit and now has suffered back-to-back last place seasons. That said, now-permanent GM Terry Ryan said last August that he didn't plan to fire Gardenhire, so we could see the Twins skipper get something akin to a one-year extension during Spring Training just so Gardenhire can avoid lame-duck status. It may seem odd to extend a manager coming off seasons of 99 and 96 losses, respectively, but I'd guess that Gardenhire's track record has earned him some leeway. * Tigers. Jim Leyland signed another one-year extension following the World Series, which is how he prefers it at this stage of his career. He and the Tigers seem content to handle things on an annual basis, and obviously the team is pleased with Leyland's recent results. * Royals. The pressure will be on Ned Yost as Kansas City has legitimate hopes to contend for the time in years. The Royals exercised Yost's 2013 option last February and if the team gets off to a slow start, Yost could very well be fired as soon as late April or early May. Conversely, Yost could be an early extension candidate if K.C. starts out playing well and management decides they're on the right track. * Yankees. Because the Yankees generally don't pursue extensions before contracts expire, manager Joe Girardi has little room to negotiate, no matter how much his record with the team may make him seem like a no-brainer extension candidate. Hypothetical scenario: if Mattingly is fired by the Dodgers after a winning (but non-playoff) season and the Yankees don't at least win the AL pennant, just imagine how heavily the New York media will push the idea of the Yankees bringing Mattingly back to the Bronx as the team's new manager. Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#syJUB2jkH4xWF48v.99
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Posted: 1/17/2013 11:05 AM
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Natinals send Morse Seattle and get AJ Cole back from Oakland.
They have got to be the WS favorite right now. They absolutely loaded up this off season.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 2:41 PM
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Won't give Karen Carpenter her own thread but I am watching a presser on MLB with John Mozeliak and Mike Matheny stating that Karen won't be pitching in 2013 and "likely won't ever return."
Adios douche. First God's favorite LB and now this. What an absoultely great sports week.
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Posted: 2/5/2013 3:44 PM
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ChrisSabo wrote:
Adios douche. First God's favorite LB and now this. What an absoultely great sports week. Could not have said it better myself!
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Posted: 2/5/2013 7:27 PM
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--------------------------------------------- --- ChrisSabo wrote:
Won't give Karen Carpenter her own thread but I am watching a presser on MLB with John Mozeliak and Mike Matheny stating that Karen won't be pitching in 2013 and "likely won't ever return."
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How is he going to explain this to his son?
========== It's all fun and games until someone is picked off second base.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 7:01 PM
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February 14, 1976, today in baseball history on Baseball Almanac, the Atlanta Braves sent out a Valentine's Day card to their season-ticket holders. The Braves finished 40½ games behind the Cincinnati Reds in 1975 and sent out a card that read: "Rose is a Red, Morgan's one, too. They finished first, Like we wanted to. But last year's behind us; We're happy to say. Now we're tied for first, Happy Valentine's Day."
It didn't work for them though. Rose and Morgan were still Reds. The Braves finished in last again, 32 games behind Cincinnati.
========== It's all fun and games until someone is picked off second base.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 9:37 PM
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hilarious
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Posted: 3/8/2013 6:25 PM
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Craig signed for $31 millon/ 5 years with the Cards...geezus that sounds cheap to me.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 1:22 PM
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He has only been in MLB for 3 years. He has been really good the last 2, but he is 28 (will be 29 on July 18) and only has 2 good years of play in MLB. DocBuc wrote: Craig signed for $31 millon/ 5 years with the Cards...geezus that sounds cheap to me.
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Posted: 4/11/2013 4:51 PM
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You dudes looking to move leake and oh my goodness, bruce, work on this kid for us. I would surely be open to a deal here. By Tim Dierkes [April 11 at 11:40am CST] The Marlins' Giancarlo Stanton hit 93 home runs in his first 371 games, leading MLB in slugging percentage last year as a 22-year-old. He's under team control through 2016 and hasn't gotten expensive yet. The Marlins sliced payroll drastically in the November blockbuster with the Blue Jays, but Stanton won't even be arbitration eligible until after this season. If we look at the examples of Miguel Cabrera and Josh Beckett, they were traded with three years of big league service time, a point Stanton will reach after this season. The 2005 Marlins were trying to win, however, and that's probably why Beckett was dealt after the season rather than during it. Cabrera was not dealt as part of the team's fire sale during the 2005-06 offseason, but rather after the '07 season. So, Cabrera stayed with the club for two full post-fire sale seasons. When star shortstop Hanley Ramirez had two years of big league service, the Marlins signed him to a record-setting six-year extension. He remained with the team for the first three-plus years of that deal, and was traded to the Dodgers after a notable decline in performance. Your turn to weigh in: with nearly every team in baseball wanting to get their hands on Giancarlo Stanton, when will he be traded?
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