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Re: Non-Red Rumors 3.0 - Hot Stove 2011-12 Discussion

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Posted: 11/16/2012 9:47 PM

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....and the "Offseason Dodgers Award" goes to the Blue Jays. If Bautista comes back to form and if EE's year last year wasn't a fluke, and I don't think it was, the AL East just got turned on it's ear.
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Posted: 11/16/2012 11:17 PM

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Couple of pretty big 'ifs'


That division is just stupid. Out of control spending, but the Blue Jays have been put in a position where they have to do this. If they don't, they are never going to win again and fans will just stop coming.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 9:35 AM

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Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 10:38 AM

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kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 10:50 AM

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They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 11:10 AM

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That kind money for one year to one man is........absurd imo.  damn.  Pay a lot of people's medical bills.  Shew.
kots4mvp14 wrote: They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 11:14 AM

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Contract notwithstanding, I wouldn't trade Mat Latos for him. And I mean that. 



cincykid wrote: That kind money for one year to one man is........absurd imo.  damn.  Pay a lot of people's medical bills.  Shew.
kots4mvp14 wrote: They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:10 PM

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Contract notwithstanding, I wouldn't trade Mat Latos for him. And I mean that. 


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That's for sure. I think they'll regret it before too long, but good for Greinke.


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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:12 PM

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Me neither.  It is too bad they weren't spending this kind of money when my uncle was pitching for them biggrin.


kots4mvp14 wrote: They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 12:16 PM

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Nice


RDriesenUD wrote: Me neither.  It is too bad they weren't spending this kind of money when my uncle was pitching for them biggrin.


kots4mvp14 wrote: They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
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Posted: 12/9/2012 2:01 PM

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kots4mvp14 wrote: Contract notwithstanding, I wouldn't trade Mat Latos for him. And I mean that. 



cincykid wrote: That kind money for one year to one man is........absurd imo.  damn.  Pay a lot of people's medical bills.  Shew.
kots4mvp14 wrote: They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
100% agree. Latos has had fewer physical issues and has a greater upside. We really need to get him extended NOW, because otherwise we won't be able to afford him beyond his arbitration years.


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Posted: 12/9/2012 8:24 PM

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wow...and that doesn't even spend all of their $240M/year TV contract either.......side note...anybody want to explain to me why the Dodgers get an 8 billion dollar deal, and the Reds are (edit: one of) the highest rated teams on TV and are "only" expected to get around $50M a year?
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

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Posted: 12/9/2012 9:34 PM

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The Indians have reached an agreement with Mark Reynolds on a one-year contract worth $6MM.



Reynolds makes Drew Stubbs look like a contact hitter. The Indians continue to be consistently STUPID.


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Posted: 12/9/2012 10:50 PM

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Source: #Rays will send James Shields and Wade Davis to #Royals for Wil Myers and other prospects.

twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/stat...982667985809408


IMO, this could be a very good trade for both teams. Like the Reds a few years ago, the Royals had to make a move this year for pitching. They have to take advantage of all the prospects they have and go for it.

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Posted: 12/9/2012 10:57 PM

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FiestaBuckeye wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote: Contract notwithstanding, I wouldn't trade Mat Latos for him. And I mean that. 



cincykid wrote: That kind money for one year to one man is........absurd imo.  damn.  Pay a lot of people's medical bills.  Shew.
kots4mvp14 wrote: They will be the first team other than the Yankees to be the #1 payroll in mlb since 1998. 

I like Grienke but I don't like him that much. 



cincykid wrote:
kots4mvp14 wrote:

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Dodgers and free agent right-hander Zack Greinke have reached agreement on a six-year, $147 million contract.

It's only pending a physical. The $24.5 million average annual value of Greinke's new deal is the richest any pitcher has ever received. The Dodgers' 2013 payroll now sits over $225 million, making it the highest in MLB history. Greinke will slot in as the No. 2 starter in Los Angeles, behind staff ace Clayton Kershaw.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez  something just don't seem right looking at those numbers, man o man.  Nuts.
100% agree. Latos has had fewer physical issues and has a greater upside. We really need to get him extended NOW, because otherwise we won't be able to afford him beyond his arbitration years.

Wonder what Kershaw is thinking about it?  lol I don't see a greinke trade happenning down the road, less it the yanks, maybe rangers. And to Greinke?  nuts.....I reiterate.

And ya we need to get Latos and Homer signed LT, if unable then dealt.  But I don' see them leaving myself.

Can you say TV revenue sharing, that is just plain anti competitve imo.  Yet we'll see where they finish.

Last edited 12/9/2012 11:02 PM by cincykid

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Posted: 12/9/2012 11:10 PM

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RDriesenUD wrote: Source: #Rays will send James Shields and Wade Davis to #Royals for Wil Myers and other prospects.

twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/stat...982667985809408


IMO, this could be a very good trade for both teams. Like the Reds a few years ago, the Royals had to make a move this year for pitching. They have to take advantage of all the prospects they have and go for it.
Great deal for both teams. Royals have to be tired of losing. They got an ace and a good 4-5 type guy that keeps the ball down.

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Posted: 12/12/2012 9:48 PM

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Phillies offered Josh Hamilton a 3 year deal.  Why not?  noidea

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/b...three-year-deal
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Posted: 12/13/2012 4:33 PM

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Free agent slugger Josh Hamilton has agreed to a five-year, $125 million deal to join the Los Angeles Angels, Major League Baseball's (MLB) website reported on Thursday.


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Posted: 12/13/2012 4:37 PM

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From Jon Heyman

Hamilton has 4th biggest OF contract in LA: $160M (Kemp), $142M (Crawford), $126M (Wells). And Trout may be best of all.


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Posted: 12/13/2012 4:40 PM

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From Jon Heyman

Vernon Wells, at $21M, is currently the Angels 5th Outfielder.


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