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Re: Non-Red Rumors 3.0

Posted: 7/31/2010 11:24 AM

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Westbrook about to be a Cardinal.


Ken_Rosenthal

Source: Westbrook to #Cardinals close. Deal at union level. Trying to work through $$$. Westbrook gets more than 2M ... (more)

in bonuses if he is traded. Also nearly 4M on contract remaining.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:27 AM

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Is Carmona and untouchable in Cleveland?
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:29 AM

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wvubassrfl wrote: Is Carmona and untouchable in Cleveland?
If this Westbrook trades happens (and it looks like it will), they yes - Heyman said there is no way they trade both of them.

Then again, could be a smokescreen.

STL could suddenly get that much strong with Westbrook. Ugggggggghhhhhhh.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:30 AM

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kots4mvp14 wrote:
wvubassrfl wrote: Is Carmona and untouchable in Cleveland?
If this Westbrook trades happens (and it looks like it will), they yes - Heyman said there is no way they trade both of them.

Then again, could be a smokescreen.

STL could suddenly get that much strong with Westbrook. Ugggggggghhhhhhh.
I would think Carmona would have been mentioned in talks more than he has been.  He has always impressed me.  noidea
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:35 AM

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Buster_ESPN

Cardinals close to acquiring Westbrook from the Indians; two sides dotting i's and crossing t's.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:35 AM

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We are done.  We sit and watch everyone get better.  Get a bat or it is wait till next year.  AGAIN!


kots4mvp14 wrote:
wvubassrfl wrote: Is Carmona and untouchable in Cleveland?
If this Westbrook trades happens (and it looks like it will), they yes - Heyman said there is no way they trade both of them.

Then again, could be a smokescreen.

STL could suddenly get that much strong with Westbrook. Ugggggggghhhhhhh.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:36 AM

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Carpenter
Wainwright
Garcia
Lohse
Westbrook

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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:39 AM

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RDriesenUD wrote: Carpenter
Wainwright
Garcia
Lohse
Westbrook
Get that hack Suppan out of there when Lohse comes back.


No bueno.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:43 AM

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Padres Deep In Talks For Ryan Ludwick

By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 10:39am CST]

The Padres are deep in talks with the Cardinals for outfielder Ryan Ludwick, tweets Tom Krasovic of AOL FanHouse.  The Cardinals were not known to be willing to discuss Ludwick, but perhaps the strong play of Jon Jay swayed them.

Ludwick, 32, has settled at a level between his stellar '08 and disappointing '09 seasons
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Posted: 7/31/2010 11:48 AM

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Come on Reds please make a move happen, the cards are getting better, and we're just sittin here hoping that some of our guys magically turn it around after being mediocre for 3 months. Need a good hitting outfielder and a bullpen arm if we're serious this year. If not, keep waiting for "prospects" to get it done, something we've been doing for years now.

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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:01 PM

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6500

Stats for Westbrook. He'd be a #4 now.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:03 PM

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10:58am: Krasovic tweets that the Padres like their chances of getting Ludwick as part of a three-team deal.  The other team is apparently the Indians, who are close to sending Jake Westbrook to the Cards.  The Padres would give up two prospects in this complicated exchange.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:08 PM

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Padres get Ludwick.

Cardinals get Westbrook and a Padres prospect.

Indians get a Padres prospect.


MAYBE biggrin.

Last edited 7/31/2010 12:09 PM by RDriesenUD

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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:12 PM

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Call me crazy but Westbrook doesn't excite me....he is sub .500 career pitcher and  4 years removed from a good year. And Ludwick is a solid bat who is a  plus outfielder, I would sure love to plug him into RF for us.....not sure how much this helps them.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:15 PM

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Westbrook is a VERY good number 4 starter. Also, Jay has passed Ludwick, IMO.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:16 PM

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Joel Sherman is reporting that SD has fallen out of this whole thing.

Of course, Sherman is an idiot.

RDriesenUD wrote: Padres get Ludwick.

Cardinals get Westbrook and a Padres prospect.

Indians get a Padres prospect.


MAYBE biggrin.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:19 PM

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Williams with the White Sox is going HARD after Man-Ram.

I love that guy.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:20 PM

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Yeah. I don't like throwing aroud prospects, but I want a GM that will go for it when you can win. I just think we have to move a lot of our AAA guys in the next year or so. Most of them are blocked and we have better prospects in the lower levels. We MAY be able to get better players for the in trades over the winter, but we can make the playoffs NOW.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:21 PM

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RDriesenUD wrote: Westbrook is a VERY good number 4 starter. Also, Jay has passed Ludwick, IMO.
Dunno maybe, I don't follow the Cards lineup that much, but it's pretty sad that they have the luxury to sit/trade a good player like Ludwick.
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Posted: 7/31/2010 12:22 PM

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MLB Network pretty much echoed that sentiment saying the Padres were still very much in the deal.
kots4mvp14 wrote: Joel Sherman is reporting that SD has fallen out of this whole thing.

Of course, Sherman is an idiot.

RDriesenUD wrote: Padres get Ludwick.

Cardinals get Westbrook and a Padres prospect.

Indians get a Padres prospect.


MAYBE biggrin.

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