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Arrietta to long term deal

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Posted: 8/13/2014 10:53 AM

Arrietta to long term deal 


http://www.suntimes.com/sports/29221672-419/cubs-right-hander-jake-arrieta-open-to-long-term-contract.html

‘‘I don’t think it’s out of the question,’’ Arrieta said of his willingness to sign a long-term deal. ‘‘I don’t think there’s been anything formal in the works, but this is an organization that I’ve really seen a transformation take place — from a team that was scuffling for a number of years to one now that’s really trying to compete for a world championship. And I want to be a part of that for years to come.’’

Whether anticipated payroll flexibility in coming years makes a difference from the Cubs’ side this time around or faith in the rebuilding process does from Arrieta’s side, Arrieta said having Boras for an agent doesn’t preclude a deal.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:04 AM

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HomerInGloamin wrote: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/29221672-419/cubs-right-hander-jake-arrieta-open-to-long-term-contract.html

‘‘I don’t think it’s out of the question,’’ Arrieta said of his willingness to sign a long-term deal. ‘‘I don’t think there’s been anything formal in the works, but this is an organization that I’ve really seen a transformation take place — from a team that was scuffling for a number of years to one now that’s really trying to compete for a world championship. And I want to be a part of that for years to come.’’

Whether anticipated payroll flexibility in coming years makes a difference from the Cubs’ side this time around or faith in the rebuilding process does from Arrieta’s side, Arrieta said having Boras for an agent doesn’t preclude a deal.
Arrieta is 28 and under Cubs control for the next 3 years after this one. Its the reason they got him, control years. No need to sign any kind of an extension with him. These guys are really good, Ricketts is gonna make a pile of dough to add to the three piles he already has.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:27 AM

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Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:46 AM

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doughboy981 wrote: Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
Correct. How many pitchers are locked up with this many years remaining. In addition, his current value is through the roof, so why pay today's price? If a deal can't be made during his last year, they can either trade or let him walk. Having a pitcher for the next three years is long term.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 1:17 PM

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Because you wouldn't pay today's FA price. He's got three years before he is able to cash in and that's a scary injury risk. So you'd ask him to give a huge discount. Theo's got a lot of leverage. It is up to him to assess the risk and throw the chips in if he thinks it's a good hand. Arrieta could be a huge bargain long term asset.


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doughboy981 wrote: Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
Correct. How many pitchers are locked up with this many years remaining. In addition, his current value is through the roof, so why pay today's price? If a deal can't be made during his last year, they can either trade or let him walk. Having a pitcher for the next three years is long term.

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I would bet my beach house on it.  -JoeyBambino (10:42am 3/20/2012-11:30am 3/20/2012) RIP
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Posted: 8/13/2014 1:23 PM

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churchofbattle wrote: Because you wouldn't pay today's FA price. He's got three years before he is able to cash in and that's a scary injury risk. So you'd ask him to give a huge discount. Theo's got a lot of leverage. It is up to him to assess the risk and throw the chips in if he thinks it's a good hand. Arrieta could be a huge bargain long term asset.


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--- absolutebadger wrote:


doughboy981 wrote: Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
Correct. How many pitchers are locked up with this many years remaining. In addition, his current value is through the roof, so why pay today's price? If a deal can't be made during his last year, they can either trade or let him walk. Having a pitcher for the next three years is long term.

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or he could blow out his arm and miss the next 2 years. Very few pitchers get locked up this far away from FA and there is a reason.
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Posted: 8/14/2014 12:21 PM

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absolutebadger wrote:
churchofbattle wrote: Because you wouldn't pay today's FA price. He's got three years before he is able to cash in and that's a scary injury risk. So you'd ask him to give a huge discount. Theo's got a lot of leverage. It is up to him to assess the risk and throw the chips in if he thinks it's a good hand. Arrieta could be a huge bargain long term asset.


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--- absolutebadger wrote:


doughboy981 wrote: Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
Correct. How many pitchers are locked up with this many years remaining. In addition, his current value is through the roof, so why pay today's price? If a deal can't be made during his last year, they can either trade or let him walk. Having a pitcher for the next three years is long term.

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or he could blow out his arm and miss the next 2 years. Very few pitchers get locked up this far away from FA and there is a reason.
We would avoid some arbitration risk.  Signing him to a deal that goes a year or two into free agency, and is perhaps structured to have the latter years be team options with healthy buyouts, or with built in bumps for being in the top 10 in Cy Young voting, could make sense as soon as this offseason, if they really believe in him.  Granted, re-visiting this after the 2015 season probably makes more sense for the Cubs.
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Posted: 8/14/2014 1:38 PM

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cubs08 wrote:
absolutebadger wrote:
churchofbattle wrote: Because you wouldn't pay today's FA price. He's got three years before he is able to cash in and that's a scary injury risk. So you'd ask him to give a huge discount. Theo's got a lot of leverage. It is up to him to assess the risk and throw the chips in if he thinks it's a good hand. Arrieta could be a huge bargain long term asset.


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--- absolutebadger wrote:


doughboy981 wrote: Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
Correct. How many pitchers are locked up with this many years remaining. In addition, his current value is through the roof, so why pay today's price? If a deal can't be made during his last year, they can either trade or let him walk. Having a pitcher for the next three years is long term.

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or he could blow out his arm and miss the next 2 years. Very few pitchers get locked up this far away from FA and there is a reason.
We would avoid some arbitration risk.  Signing him to a deal that goes a year or two into free agency, and is perhaps structured to have the latter years be team options with healthy buyouts, or with built in bumps for being in the top 10 in Cy Young voting, could make sense as soon as this offseason, if they really believe in him.  Granted, re-visiting this after the 2015 season probably makes more sense for the Cubs.
I agree. If he continues to pitch like he has this season, buying a year or two of FA could make sense, and as you said, it is probably just too early with the three years of control left.
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Posted: 8/14/2014 7:17 PM

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That's why he gets paid the big bucks. I love the job Theo has done but the one thing I'm waiting to see is a willingness to take some risk. He's been pretty conservative largely because he hasn't needed to take many risks yet. Sometimes I think Cubs fans expect Theo to win a WS just by being the smartest guy in the room alone without ever having to take a risk.

Theo could wait to 2015 but it could cost him a very very very large amount of money. The difference in leverage on a guy with 3 years of control at 500k and 2 years of control at 500k is tens of millions of dollars. And if you wait til the last year you have very little leverage left. If you are going to win a WS you are going to need a couple of really expensive pitchers at the top pf your roration. What you are actually paying them is a function of planning.


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absolutebadger wrote:
churchofbattle wrote: Because you wouldn't pay today's FA price. He's got three years before he is able to cash in and that's a scary injury risk. So you'd ask him to give a huge discount. Theo's got a lot of leverage. It is up to him to assess the risk and throw the chips in if he thinks it's a good hand. Arrieta could be a huge bargain long term asset.


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--- absolutebadger wrote:


doughboy981 wrote: Excel for two years in a row at least. Remember that there was a discussion here about extending Wood last yr. Thank goodness they waited.
Correct. How many pitchers are locked up with this many years remaining. In addition, his current value is through the roof, so why pay today's price? If a deal can't be made during his last year, they can either trade or let him walk. Having a pitcher for the next three years is long term.

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or he could blow out his arm and miss the next 2 years. Very few pitchers get locked up this far away from FA and there is a reason.
We would avoid some arbitration risk.  Signing him to a deal that goes a year or two into free agency, and is perhaps structured to have the latter years be team options with healthy buyouts, or with built in bumps for being in the top 10 in Cy Young voting, could make sense as soon as this offseason, if they really believe in him.  Granted, re-visiting this after the 2015 season probably makes more sense for the Cubs.

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I would bet my beach house on it.  -JoeyBambino (10:42am 3/20/2012-11:30am 3/20/2012) RIP
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