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Bonifacio & Russell traded ?

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:10 PM

Bonifacio & Russell traded ? 


Peter Gammons @pgammo

Waiting on Bonafacio, maybe Russell to Braves

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:20 PM

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#Cubs Russell came in from 'pen at 2:56 pm CT, and has yet to return to his seat with other relievers

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Paul Sullivan ‏@PWSullivan    6s    
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Russ hugs pen and fans. He gone.

Last edited 7/31/2014 3:22 PM by SportsGoblin

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:21 PM

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Bruce Miles@BruceMiles2112

Neither an "all-clear" nor a "stand by" from #Cubs yet

  • No all-clear confirmation from #Braves yet, so don't be surprised if some deal is announced that was completed just before deadline

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:24 PM

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I imagine with the Price trade bonanza, the smaller moves got pushed to the back burner for the sports writers.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:25 PM

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Russell gone, seen leaving the pen.

Last edited 7/31/2014 3:25 PM by zighawk73

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:26 PM

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Wittenmyer says both Boni and Russell to Braves.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/...-bonifacio.html
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:27 PM

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Bruce Levine@MLBBruceLevine ·

Source says Bonifacio has been dealt

James Russell saying goodbye to teammates on bench

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:35 PM

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Wittenmeyer says for minor league catcher
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:37 PM

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Caratini
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:38 PM

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CoachK34 wrote: Wittenmeyer says for minor league catcher
Peter GammonsVerified account @ pgammo

Cubs got Victor Caratini from Braves

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:43 PM

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He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.

Last edited 7/31/2014 3:43 PM by cubsfaninca

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:47 PM

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cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.
Haaa..Castillo better start looking over his shoulder...its starting to show that just maybe Theo and Jed wanna go a different way
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:47 PM

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http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cg i?id=carati000vic

http://rotoscouting.com/victor-caratini-scouting-r eport-2014/

Curious where you saw framing skills?

AgePAH2BHRBBSOSBAVGOBPSLGwOBA
192465823139490.290.415.430.397

The Year in Review: A bit of a surprise selection in the second round of the 2013 draft out of Miami Dade Junior College, Caratini had a strong pro debut. He produced a .415 on-base percentage and 25 of his 58 hits went for extra bases.

The Scouting Report: The key to Caratini’s value as a prospect is tied to his ability to continue developing at his new defensive home behind the plate. Converted to full-time catcher after his first pro season, the young prospect has picked up the basic skills quite quickly. He also has experience at third base but is considered below-average defensively and lacks the power profile to become an elite prospect there. Caratini shows a good swing at the plate as a switch-hitter and isn’t afraid the go the other way from either side of the plate. He also has a solid eye and some patience.

The Year Ahead: Caratini’s bat is probably ready for Low-A ball but he may be held back in extended spring training to continue working on his defensive conversion.

The Career Outlook: A switch-hitting catcher with average defensive skills, strong on-base abilities and gap power carries a ton of value so you can understand why Atlanta would attempt this experiment.



cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.


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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:48 PM

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cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.
The guys we sent weren't world beaters, but I'm still kinda meh.  Two veterens and cash net you an A ball catcher?  I guess, just not sexy, and I was hoping for Bethancourt, though that might have been a bit unrealistic.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:52 PM

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From the Scouting Book, it was the first search that came up on Google.  Guess there are varying opinions. 

            Sometime in the last decade or so, the Braves got very very good at identifying catchers. Victor Caratini, a product of the PR Baseball Academy, is another in the fast-growing line of top-notch backstops coming through Atlanta's system. A reliable defensive target, he's received a great deal of praise for his framing and blocking ability, and his arm, while not a full-bore cannon, is better than many MLB catchers already. At the plate, he's a viable switch-hitter, a disciplined and well-rounded talent who projects as a 10-20 home run guy in the future. (He hit .377 with six home runs and a .549 slugging percentage in 175 ABs with Miami Dade.) Should the Braves catcher pipeline get jammed up, as it may very well, Caratini is also a capable third baseman.
WadeWalker2013 wrote: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cg i?id=carati000vic

http://rotoscouting.com/victor-caratini-scouting-r eport-2014/

Curious where you saw framing skills?

AgePAH2BHRBBSOSBAVGOBPSLGwOBA
192465823139490.290.415.430.397

The Year in Review: A bit of a surprise selection in the second round of the 2013 draft out of Miami Dade Junior College, Caratini had a strong pro debut. He produced a .415 on-base percentage and 25 of his 58 hits went for extra bases.

The Scouting Report: The key to Caratini’s value as a prospect is tied to his ability to continue developing at his new defensive home behind the plate. Converted to full-time catcher after his first pro season, the young prospect has picked up the basic skills quite quickly. He also has experience at third base but is considered below-average defensively and lacks the power profile to become an elite prospect there. Caratini shows a good swing at the plate as a switch-hitter and isn’t afraid the go the other way from either side of the plate. He also has a solid eye and some patience.

The Year Ahead: Caratini’s bat is probably ready for Low-A ball but he may be held back in extended spring training to continue working on his defensive conversion.

The Career Outlook: A switch-hitting catcher with average defensive skills, strong on-base abilities and gap power carries a ton of value so you can understand why Atlanta would attempt this experiment.



cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:57 PM

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Jesse Rogers@ESPNChiCubs ·

Baez not coming up to replace Bonifacio, per Hoyer

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Posted: 7/31/2014 3:58 PM

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With Schwarber's future unlikely at catcher, VC has to be the most promising catcher in the organization?

IMO it was worth it for what was given up, especially Russell. Curious who will come up now- Watkins and Rosscup?

Oh yeah maybe JR and EB could end up key cogs on a WS champ- leaving only in debate if they were hot piles of garbage when acquired by ATL. 
cubsfaninca wrote: From the Scouting Book, it was the first search that came up on Google.  Guess there are varying opinions. 

            Sometime in the last decade or so, the Braves got very very good at identifying catchers. Victor Caratini, a product of the PR Baseball Academy, is another in the fast-growing line of top-notch backstops coming through Atlanta's system. A reliable defensive target, he's received a great deal of praise for his framing and blocking ability, and his arm, while not a full-bore cannon, is better than many MLB catchers already. At the plate, he's a viable switch-hitter, a disciplined and well-rounded talent who projects as a 10-20 home run guy in the future. (He hit .377 with six home runs and a .549 slugging percentage in 175 ABs with Miami Dade.) Should the Braves catcher pipeline get jammed up, as it may very well, Caratini is also a capable third baseman.
WadeWalker2013 wrote: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cg i?id=carati000vic

http://rotoscouting.com/victor-caratini-scouting-r eport-2014/

Curious where you saw framing skills?

AgePAH2BHRBBSOSBAVGOBPSLGwOBA
192465823139490.290.415.430.397

The Year in Review: A bit of a surprise selection in the second round of the 2013 draft out of Miami Dade Junior College, Caratini had a strong pro debut. He produced a .415 on-base percentage and 25 of his 58 hits went for extra bases.

The Scouting Report: The key to Caratini’s value as a prospect is tied to his ability to continue developing at his new defensive home behind the plate. Converted to full-time catcher after his first pro season, the young prospect has picked up the basic skills quite quickly. He also has experience at third base but is considered below-average defensively and lacks the power profile to become an elite prospect there. Caratini shows a good swing at the plate as a switch-hitter and isn’t afraid the go the other way from either side of the plate. He also has a solid eye and some patience.

The Year Ahead: Caratini’s bat is probably ready for Low-A ball but he may be held back in extended spring training to continue working on his defensive conversion.

The Career Outlook: A switch-hitting catcher with average defensive skills, strong on-base abilities and gap power carries a ton of value so you can understand why Atlanta would attempt this experiment.



cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.


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Posted: 7/31/2014 4:01 PM

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Watkins is most likely since he's on the 40-man and can play 2B/SS/3B...I'd think the roster spot goes to Fujikawa since he needs to end his rehab assignment soon.  They can flip-flop Rusin for Rosscup later on if needed.  We only need 2 lefties.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 4:10 PM

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zighawk73 wrote:
cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.
The guys we sent weren't world beaters, but I'm still kinda meh.  Two veterens and cash net you an A ball catcher?  I guess, just not sexy, and I was hoping for Bethancourt, though that might have been a bit unrealistic.
I hear ya. The trade deadline, the build-up, the other big deals for Lester, Price, etc...made the Cubs trade very anticlimactic.

I just take it as a flippable (Bonifacio) and a very replaceable asset (Russell) traded for a team's Top 10 prospect (#7 in fact). I'll take it. I just wish Schierholtz, Sweeney, etc. had similarly performed well so that they also could have gotten Top 10 prospects. Ruggiano/Coghlan/Valbuena I think did perform that well, but given the years of cheap control the Cubs have on them, it wasn't worth it to trade them for something small.
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Posted: 7/31/2014 4:11 PM

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zighawk73 wrote:
cubsfaninca wrote: He's the Braves #7 prospect (50 rating overall.)  Catcher/3B, moved back to catcher and has good framing skills (!!!!!) and expected to hit for some power (10-15 HRs.)  He's only 20 and in A ball but it helps at a spot where we don't have much depth.    Quite happy with this guy for 2 guys that we didn't need and wouldn't have for long.
The guys we sent weren't world beaters, but I'm still kinda meh.  Two veterens and cash net you an A ball catcher?  I guess, just not sexy, and I was hoping for Bethancourt, though that might have been a bit unrealistic.
Russell is solid but not great and Bonifacio is a journeyman utility man.  The fact that we got a guy who is actually considered a prospect is pretty darn good, IMO.
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