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2014 Plan going forward and my thoughts on Wood and Alcantara.

Posted: 7/9/2014 4:21 PM

2014 Plan going forward and my thoughts on Wood and Alcantara. 


OK I will not deny I am still ticked off about yesterday...I ultimately feel that going forward the rest of the season,  FO has one major goal....LOSE

After getting his butt kicked in they threw Villanueva in last night...anybody but him would have been better  and they had plenty of time to bail him out and they just left him in

2 days of Alcantara isnt going to change my mind...I originally said I dont want Alcantara as part of this current train wreck but after thinking about it I wouldnt mind...Rizzo needs some assurance...he is already saying things like ...all the trading has made him numb...this isnt exactly a positive statement

Now on to Wood...he was great for us last year but we kept reading it was with a lot of luck. So its safe to say he was over-performing.  Right now his .ERA is at 4.62 and I just think we can do better that that.  I would try trading him and getting back something descent while the demand of midseason pitching is high and supply is low.

Apparently I am not the only one thinking about this...found this while searching woods contract...it explains some concerns about Wood that I vaguely referred to as well as ineffectiveness of his bread and butter pitch, the cutter

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs...on-travis-wood/


Also the 2015 FA pool is loaded with pitching that I feel could replace Wood...2 strong lefty possibilities are Lester and if he can get healthy Chad Billingsly

But there should be plenty here to replace Wood...also Grimm and Ramirez as I have mentioned could be stretched out and used as starters...I know some feel Ramirez's arm wont hold up but at least Grimm then

Heres the lest of 2015 FA starters to this point..

Starting Pitchers

Brett Anderson (27) – $12MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
Josh Beckett (35)
Chad Billingsley (30) – $14MM club option with a $3MM buyout
Joe Blanton (34)
A.J. Burnett (38) – mutual option
Chris Capuano (36)
Bruce Chen (38) – $5.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Wei-Yin Chen (29) – $4.75MM club option with a $372K buyout
Kevin Correia (34)
Johnny Cueto (29) – $10MM club option with an $800K buyout
Jorge De La Rosa (34)
Ryan Dempster (38)
Gavin Floyd (32)
Yovani Gallardo (29) – $13MM club option with a $600K buyout
Jason Hammel (32)
J.A. Happ (32) – $6.7MM club option
Aaron Harang (37)
Dan Haren (34) – $10MM player option if 180 innings reached in 2014
Roberto Hernandez (34)
Hisashi Iwakuma (34) – $7MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Josh Johnson (31) – $4MM club option
Kyle Kendrick (30)
Hiroki Kuroda (40)
Jon Lester (31)
Colby Lewis (35)
Francisco Liriano (31)
Paul Maholm (33)
Justin Masterson (30)
Brandon McCarthy (31)
Brandon Morrow (30) – $10MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Felipe Paulino (31) – $4MM club option with a $250K buyout
Jake Peavy (34)
Wandy Rodriguez (36)
Ervin Santana (32)
Joe Saunders (34)
Max Scherzer (30)
James Shields (33)
Carlos Villanueva (31)
Ryan Vogelsong (37)
Edinson Volquez (30)
Jerome Williams (33)

Almost forgot...again this goes along with losing...if we pick lower than number 10...we will forfeit our first round pick if we sign a FA who receives a qualifying offer ...to me that would include Lester and Melky Cabrera

Last edited 7/9/2014 4:37 PM by wrigleykid

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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:22 PM

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If I am any team I am nervous about paying over 25 per to any pitcher.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:29 PM

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promar200 wrote: If I am any team I am nervous about paying over 25 per to any pitcher.
yeah their arms are falling off....Lester is one of the few with great health and consistency
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Posted: 7/9/2014 5:38 PM

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Ricky Renteria hasn't show me much on his in game situational adjustments either. I know he's limited with the talent and I'm hoping leaving Sweeney and Coghlan to face left handlers is just for show casing purposes. As far as Wood...I think he has value to an NL team like the Braves or Dodgers.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 6:30 PM

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wrigleykid wrote: OK I will not deny I am still ticked off about yesterday...I ultimately feel that going forward the rest of the season,  FO has one major goal....LOSE

2 days of Alcantara isnt going to change my mind...I originally said I dont want Alcantara as part of this current train wreck but after thinking about it I wouldnt mind...Rizzo needs some assurance...he is already saying things like ...all the trading has made him numb...this isnt exactly a positive statement

Now on to Wood...he was great for us last year but we kept reading it was with a lot of luck. So its safe to say he was over-performing.  Right now his .ERA is at 4.62 and I just think we can do better that that.  I would try trading him and getting back something descent while the demand of midseason pitching is high and supply is low.

You are now just coming to the realization that the Cubs goal is to lose. That has been the plan going into the past 3 seasons.

I agree that it is too bad that Alcantara is only up for 2 games. It might help the veterans see some light at the end of the tunnel if some help was promoted from the minors.

While last year may have been a career year for Wood he is still cost controlled over replacing him with a more expensive option. The pitching part of the plan will be the most difficult part to solve.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 6:34 PM

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Oh Christ is Cubs2007 rubbing off on people now....ohlord

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Posted: 7/9/2014 7:22 PM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:

Oh Christ is Cubs2007 rubbing off on people now....ohlord

not exactly...was just hoping for a better midseason run...but oh well...it is what it is
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Posted: 7/9/2014 7:24 PM

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Why do people think Ramirez's arm wouldn't hold up?  He had an injury around the time of the Garza trade.  That happens with some pitchers.
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Posted: 7/9/2014 8:40 PM

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Sounds like he is just pointing out the obvious.

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Posted: 7/10/2014 8:25 AM

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HomerInGloamin wrote:
wrigleykid wrote: OK I will not deny I am still ticked off about yesterday...I ultimately feel that going forward the rest of the season,  FO has one major goal....LOSE

2 days of Alcantara isnt going to change my mind...I originally said I dont want Alcantara as part of this current train wreck but after thinking about it I wouldnt mind...Rizzo needs some assurance...he is already saying things like ...all the trading has made him numb...this isnt exactly a positive statement

Now on to Wood...he was great for us last year but we kept reading it was with a lot of luck. So its safe to say he was over-performing.  Right now his .ERA is at 4.62 and I just think we can do better that that.  I would try trading him and getting back something descent while the demand of midseason pitching is high and supply is low.

You are now just coming to the realization that the Cubs goal is to lose. That has been the plan going into the past 3 seasons.

I agree that it is too bad that Alcantara is only up for 2 games. It might help the veterans see some light at the end of the tunnel if some help was promoted from the minors.

While last year may have been a career year for Wood he is still cost controlled over replacing him with a more expensive option. The pitching part of the plan will be the most difficult part to solve.
Correct on Wood. His raise in arb will be minimal after this season so he will be a bargain next year. His BABIB this season is about 40 points higher than his career average, so if they trade him now they are selling low. He could still be moved in the next 2 years and imo this is about as bad as he can look, so I would hold, especially considering the Cubs don't have any lefties ready for the rotation.
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