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2014: The Road to .500

Posted: 6/20/2014 11:18 PM

2014: The Road to .500 


Well here we go again...its that timebiggrin

I dont know if I am the minority but I am guessing I am.  I said last year that I was satisfied with this year being our final year for a top of the line draft pick...I have not changed my mind.  I said that this would be the transition year and although Baez and Alcantara are long shots to get here in time to make a huge impact this year, I still think this team can reach .500 as I predicted earlier.

Now you guys are probably saying just like Kaplan "why do u want a .500 team, there's no point...u dont go to the playoffs and you also dont get a high draft pick."  Well dont some of u guys think that just maybe if we were able to maintain a .500 record that players who were about to hit the market might say "Wow that team played .500 baseball and without any major help from their top prospects..maybe I wont be wasting my time if I sign with the Cubs."

We have played a bunch more away games than home...the 2nd half of the schedule favors us.

Sooooo without further adieu....i give you the chart

Wins  31    Loses  40

9 wins to go!!!

.437
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Posted: 6/21/2014 12:52 AM

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wrigleykid wrote: Well here we go again...its that timebiggrin

I dont know if I am the minority but I am guessing I am.  I said last year that I was satisfied with this year being our final year for a top of the line draft pick...I have not changed my mind.  I said that this would be the transition year and although Baez and Alcantara are long shots to get here in time to make a huge impact this year, I still think this team can reach .500 as I predicted earlier.

Now you guys are probably saying just like Kaplan "why do u want a .500 team, there's no point...u dont go to the playoffs and you also dont get a high draft pick."  Well dont some of u guys think that just maybe if we were able to maintain a .500 record that players who were about to hit the market might say "Wow that team played .500 baseball and without any major help from their top prospects..maybe I wont be wasting my time if I sign with the Cubs."

We have played a bunch more away games than home...the 2nd half of the schedule favors us.

Sooooo without further adieu....i give you the chart

Wins  31    Loses  40

9 wins to go!!!

.437
             I'd love to think it's possible but after Shark and Hammel are traded (and they will be) and replaced with Hendricks and Wada, it's going to be tough to keep racking up the quality starts like we have been.  If anyone gets hurt we could be forced to put Villanueva back in the rotation.   Every time we have a little win streak everyone gets excited but then reality sets in after we lose the next 3.   
        I think any pending free agents will look beyond the W-L record for this year and hopefully look at the potential for next year and beyond with the state of our farm system.  We could easily be ranked #1 after we pick up more prospects for Shark and Hammel.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 2:41 AM

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cubsfaninca wrote:
wrigleykid wrote: Well here we go again...its that timebiggrin

I dont know if I am the minority but I am guessing I am.  I said last year that I was satisfied with this year being our final year for a top of the line draft pick...I have not changed my mind.  I said that this would be the transition year and although Baez and Alcantara are long shots to get here in time to make a huge impact this year, I still think this team can reach .500 as I predicted earlier.

Now you guys are probably saying just like Kaplan "why do u want a .500 team, there's no point...u dont go to the playoffs and you also dont get a high draft pick."  Well dont some of u guys think that just maybe if we were able to maintain a .500 record that players who were about to hit the market might say "Wow that team played .500 baseball and without any major help from their top prospects..maybe I wont be wasting my time if I sign with the Cubs."

We have played a bunch more away games than home...the 2nd half of the schedule favors us.

Sooooo without further adieu....i give you the chart

Wins  31    Loses  40

9 wins to go!!!

.437
             I'd love to think it's possible but after Shark and Hammel are traded (and they will be) and replaced with Hendricks and Wada, it's going to be tough to keep racking up the quality starts like we have been.  If anyone gets hurt we could be forced to put Villanueva back in the rotation.   Every time we have a little win streak everyone gets excited but then reality sets in after we lose the next 3.   
        I think any pending free agents will look beyond the W-L record for this year and hopefully look at the potential for next year and beyond with the state of our farm system.  We could easily be ranked #1 after we pick up more prospects for Shark and Hammel.
well if players think anything like sports analysts I wouldnt hold my breath...they waste no opportunities to dog us with our future being so unclear

As far as pitching goes our bullpen goes a long way...be may not have the best closer and setup man combo...but I doubt any team in baseball has the bullpen depth that we have and next year it probably wont even be close.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 6:30 AM

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LOL... I seem to recall that after you posted this last year the team went into a tailspin.  But I agree Kid.  It's time they start getting accustomed to winning, especially when the core players are the ones driving it.  They almost had a perfect homestand last time.  Accomplish that this time and you're at .500.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 6:56 AM

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There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

The second point is whether or not it would have been possible for this team to contend for a wild card spot this year had they made a couple additional moves last winter. Probably not, but I don't think it's 100% no chance in hell.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 8:20 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

Besides Hammel and Samardzija, who will be traded that is actually helping the team right now?  Valbuena?
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Posted: 6/21/2014 8:35 AM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
DoubleDown11 wrote: There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

Besides Hammel and Samardzija, who will be traded that is actually helping the team right now?  Valbuena?
            Last year we didn't have the starting depth and the bullpen we have now and we still won 17 games in Aug/Sept. which does suck, but nowhere near 10-40.     And there's still a chance there might be Alcantara or Baez in the lineup in September.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 8:56 AM

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DoubleDown11 wrote: There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

Besides Hammel and Samardzija, who will be traded that is actually helping the team right now?  Valbuena?

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Guessing Russell will be gone as well. Perhaps Strop, too.

I think we have some pretty solid guys to fill in these roles. Much better options than last year--Hendricks, Riviero, Rosscup, Parker, Vizcaino, etc.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 9:08 AM

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SPOONER wrote:


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DoubleDown11 wrote: There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

Besides Hammel and Samardzija, who will be traded that is actually helping the team right now?  Valbuena?

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Guessing Russell will be gone as well. Perhaps Strop, too.

I think we have some pretty solid guys to fill in these roles. Much better options than last year--Hendricks, Riviero, Rosscup, Parker, Vizcaino, etc.
Strop is young, cheap, and under control for 3 more years. Who have they traded so far that met this criteria. They may make some pitching moves before the deadline to free up 40 man spots so they can protect guys from rule five.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 10:21 AM

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alcantara should have been up 6 weeks ago.

 

 

I still say we need to suck this year.  Should happen after the trades, but I agree castro and rizzo need to start winning.  I have noticed rizzo with more pep in his step the last few weeks with us playing better.

 

 

please quit calling him shark,  not even close.

 

 

btw, braves really need jeff s. and maybe one of our bullpen guys for a monster return would be nice.  throw barney in as well.  I think kimbrell blew another save last night?  that is about 3 or 4 already.  went from sugar to crap that quick.

 

 

I like the way the team is moving but we need one more top 3 pick.

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Posted: 6/21/2014 10:25 AM

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Rizzo said yday this is the best stretch he's been part of since joining the cubs and they're expecting to win when they come to the park. Expect a letdown after hammel and shark are moved, especially if the return isn't major leaguers. Renteria will have his work cut out for him post deadline. In the meantime, it's fun to watch with Castro and Rizzo playing so well.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 10:40 AM

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Alcantara isn't ready for the majors now, let alone 6 weeks ago...
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Posted: 6/21/2014 11:30 AM

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tautology wrote: Alcantara isn't ready for the majors now, let alone 6 weeks ago...
he is getting close I think taut...wasnt it u who pointed to the fact Baez is playing a lot better lately than the numbers show?...Alcantara seems to be striking out at a lower rate and even taking some more walks....his .OBP is nearly .330 and his .OPS is closing in on .850
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Posted: 6/21/2014 11:32 AM

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KatieCubFan wrote: LOL... I seem to recall that after you posted this last year the team went into a tailspin.  But I agree Kid.  It's time they start getting accustomed to winning, especially when the core players are the ones driving it.  They almost had a perfect homestand last time.  Accomplish that this time and you're at .500.
yeah...thats why I thought really hard before doing it...was gonna do it during the Marlins seriesbiggrin
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Posted: 6/21/2014 11:41 AM

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KatieCubFan wrote:
DoubleDown11 wrote: There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

Besides Hammel and Samardzija, who will be traded that is actually helping the team right now?  Valbuena?
yes exactly...not to mention we took away the biggest power threat in the lineup in Soriano...but the biggest turn around offensively is Castro and Rizzo...who were an absolute train wreck last year
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Posted: 6/21/2014 12:20 PM

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If you trade Hammel and Samardzija this team will have 1 reliable starting pitcher to pair with one of the worst offenses in the league.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 1:08 PM

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tautology wrote: If you trade Hammel and Samardzija this team will have 1 reliable starting pitcher to pair with one of the worst offenses in the league.
well either i get my .500 team or we stink and get the high pick...either way someones happy
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Posted: 6/21/2014 10:34 PM

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alcantara should have been up 6 weeks ago.

 

 

I still say we need to suck this year.  Should happen after the trades, but I agree castro and rizzo need to start winning.  I have noticed rizzo with more pep in his step the last few weeks with us playing better.

 

 

please quit calling him shark,  not even close.

 

 

btw, braves really need jeff s. and maybe one of our bullpen guys for a monster return would be nice.  throw barney in as well.  I think kimbrell blew another save last night?  that is about 3 or 4 already.  went from sugar to crap that quick.

 

 

I like the way the team is moving but we need one more top 3 pick.



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I don't know why you keep saying that about Alcantara. Until recently his OBP was hovering at .300. The last time you made the statement I'm pretty sure it was lower than .300.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 10:40 PM

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SPOONER wrote:


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DoubleDown11 wrote: There's 2 points here. First, we're going to trade half the team and go like 10-40 in August and September. That's a darn near lock.

Besides Hammel and Samardzija, who will be traded that is actually helping the team right now?  Valbuena?

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Guessing Russell will be gone as well. Perhaps Strop, too.

I think we have some pretty solid guys to fill in these roles. Much better options than last year--Hendricks, Riviero, Rosscup, Parker, Vizcaino, etc.
Strop is young, cheap, and under control for 3 more years. Who have they traded so far that met this criteria. They may make some pitching moves before the deadline to free up 40 man spots so they can protect guys from rule five.

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He's not that young. He's 29. But note I said "perhaps." He's expendable at this point. Not really a cornerstone and plays a position where we have depth. Someone has to go eventually. Would just as soon see any of the guys I listed in his spot going forward. He would be an attractive addition in a trade to a contending team, perhaps with Hammel or JS.
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Posted: 6/21/2014 11:27 PM

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promar200 wrote:

please quit calling him shark,  not even close.

If you don't think he resembles the shark from Finding Nemo, that's your problem.  His teammates in college did and that's how he got the nickname.
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