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It's 2013 and Soriano smells even worse

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Posted: 4/4/2013 9:26 AM

It's 2013 and Soriano smells even worse 


4 strikeouts in 2 games already. 

You are going to see the worst year of his career this season.  He won't top 25 homers and will strike out at least 150 times.  That is, if he makes it the entire season.

I hated his contract since the say Boob Hendry signed him.  Steve Stone hit the nail on the head when Soriano became a Cub.  He's got bad knees, is a terrible fielder, and is in the downside of his carrer.

I can't wait until this thief is cut or traded.  I don't care if the return is a Reggie Jackson bobblehead.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 9:39 AM

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You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 9:44 AM

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You can debate if Soriano is going to provide production for his big contract. What you can't debate is that he should not be on the roster. When you are tearing down a team to do a complete rebuild then there is no place for an expensive old player.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 9:50 AM

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GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
+1. Soriano is overpaid no question, but he was a very productive player for the Cubs last year and his defense was much improved.

I think Soriano has limited his list of teams he would accept a trade to to a very small number, and those teams know that, limiting any leverage the Cubs might have. As such, it might make more sense just to have him finish out his 2 years with the Cubs. Even if we accepted the premise of 25hr and 150+ Ks... assuming Soriano were traded for a bobblehead (and you are eating all of his salary), who are you putting in LF that could match those numbers right now?

Last edited 4/4/2013 9:51 AM by SportsGoblin

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Posted: 4/4/2013 9:50 AM

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GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
haha +1
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:07 AM

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SportsGoblin wrote:
GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
+1. Soriano is overpaid no question, but he was a very productive player for the Cubs last year and his defense was much improved.

I think Soriano has limited his list of teams he would accept a trade to to a very small number, and those teams know that, limiting any leverage the Cubs might have. As such, it might make more sense just to have him finish out his 2 years with the Cubs. Even if we accepted the premise of 25hr and 150+ Ks... assuming Soriano were traded for a bobblehead (and you are eating all of his salary), who are you putting in LF that could match those numbers right now?
It doesn't matter who you put in LF because you are in the process of a teardown and rebuild. I thought the point was to get high draft picks and begin a youth movement which does not include old overpaid players.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:12 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
+1. Soriano is overpaid no question, but he was a very productive player for the Cubs last year and his defense was much improved.

I think Soriano has limited his list of teams he would accept a trade to to a very small number, and those teams know that, limiting any leverage the Cubs might have. As such, it might make more sense just to have him finish out his 2 years with the Cubs. Even if we accepted the premise of 25hr and 150+ Ks... assuming Soriano were traded for a bobblehead (and you are eating all of his salary), who are you putting in LF that could match those numbers right now?
It doesn't matter who you put in LF because you are in the process of a teardown and rebuild. I thought the point was to get high draft picks and begin a youth movement which does not include old overpaid players.

No, the point was to build for the future while having the MLB team somewhat respectable.  Soriano helps make the team more respectable than a bag of used jockstraps, which is what you seem to be asking for.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:14 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
+1. Soriano is overpaid no question, but he was a very productive player for the Cubs last year and his defense was much improved.

I think Soriano has limited his list of teams he would accept a trade to to a very small number, and those teams know that, limiting any leverage the Cubs might have. As such, it might make more sense just to have him finish out his 2 years with the Cubs. Even if we accepted the premise of 25hr and 150+ Ks... assuming Soriano were traded for a bobblehead (and you are eating all of his salary), who are you putting in LF that could match those numbers right now?
It doesn't matter who you put in LF because you are in the process of a teardown and rebuild. I thought the point was to get high draft picks and begin a youth movement which does not include old overpaid players.
it's disgusting how condescending and passive agressive you are.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:14 AM

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Good job on calling Bob out on his annual Soriano thread. Soriano should have never signed that contract. It's his fault for accepting it and coming here.
2007, you're posts are so predictable, tiresome, and redundant. I've tried giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you're such a tool and I can't stand you now along with everyone else on here
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:22 AM

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Bob Scanlon makes me feel sympathetic towards Soriano.

I given the guy a hard time and I think everyone can agree he hasn't come close to living out his contract. Yet he has put some good production with the Cubs and the guy comes to play everyday even though I still think he is more of a soccer player then a leftfielder defensively. 
 
Threads like this make me want to puke. blah2

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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:22 AM

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GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
That my only miss on my predictions.  Feel free to sift through my posts and you will learn I am dead on 99% of the time.

I don't care if Soriano had a career year last season.  That's one gold nugget in a toilet full of turds.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:23 AM

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Bob Scanlon makes me feel sympathetic towards Soriano.

I given the guy a hard time and I think everyone can agree he hasn't come close to living out his contract. Yet he has put some good production with the Cubs and the guy comes to play everyday even though I still think he is more of a soccer player then a leftfielder defensively. 
 
Threads like this make me want to puke. blah2



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I agree. People like Bob and 2007 are great fans! I'm a realist, but I never wish for any individuals or the team to fail
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:23 AM

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KatieCubFan wrote:

No, the point was to build for the future while having the MLB team somewhat respectable.  Soriano helps make the team more respectable than a bag of used jockstraps, which is what you seem to be asking for.
If that was the point then it was a fail with a 101 loss season. He had his best season and it did not help them from being historically bad. The original plan was to build on parallel fronts but the focus has been more on the draft and building the farm with trades of veterans for prospects and international signings.

If you are doing a teardown then Soriano, Marmol and Garza should all have been moved. If you were really trying to have a competitive team then you needed to add major league talent that can help now and in the future.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:29 AM

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CoachK34 wrote: I agree. People like Bob and 2007 are great fans! I'm a realist, but I never wish for any individuals or the team to fail


+1

It's one thing to understand the odds are very strong that the Cubs are another for a losing season. But to actively root for them to lose? That is absolute crap. Even management is not wanting to have that happen.  They want to win in the worst way. Theo said it best though. Winning 90 games and have it happen due to being lead by veterans having career years while the kids take steps back would be seen as a failure, not actually winning 90 games. That would be a welcome problem to have just as long as the young core continue to develop.

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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:32 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

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ast year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
+1. Soriano is overpaid no question, but he was a very productive player for the Cubs last year and his defense was much improved.

I think Soriano has limited his list of teams he would accept a trade to to a very small number, and those teams know that, limiting any leverage the Cubs might have. As such, it might make more sense just to have him finish out his 2 years with the Cubs. Even if we accepted the premise of 25hr and 150+ Ks... assuming Soriano were traded for a bobblehead (and you are eating all of his salary), who are you putting in LF that could match those numbers right now?
It doesn't matter who you put in LF because you are in the process of a teardown and rebuild. I thought the point was to get high draft picks and begin a youth movement which does not include old overpaid players.
Who they put in left doesn't matter much, but here is what does matter; Sori has a no-trade clause and until he accepts a trade then nothing else can happen. Once he is open to the idea, the Cubs then need a trade partner and that partner has to be willing to either pay a huge chunk of the contract or give up a pretty good prospect. If the Cubs don't get one or the other, then they can't move him. Paying his salary to play for another team doesn't do any good unless they get a decent trade return.

The contract was terrible, that was on Jimbo. From 2009-2012 Sori has basically been a replacement level player and that includes his 2 WAR last season. When you are paying 19 million, the player does not want to be traded, and you have zero prospects knocking on the door; you are forced to play him. All of that is on Jimbo- Thanks again!!
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:33 AM

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BobScanlan wrote:That's one gold nugget in a toilet full of turds.


Which means they are exactly like your posts. ohlord

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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:40 AM

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cubs2007 wrote:
SportsGoblin wrote:
GlenAllen4HOF wrote: You start the exact same thread every year.  

mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s...7&t=8964230

Last year he went on to have a career high in RBI, played in 151 games, and hit 32 home runs.   And he defense improved to legitimately contending for Gold Glove caliber.


We know you don't like Soriano, and he may be terrible this year; however, last year's performance should show you that predicting he is going to have the worst year of his career after two games is just stupid.
+1. Soriano is overpaid no question, but he was a very productive player for the Cubs last year and his defense was much improved.

I think Soriano has limited his list of teams he would accept a trade to to a very small number, and those teams know that, limiting any leverage the Cubs might have. As such, it might make more sense just to have him finish out his 2 years with the Cubs. Even if we accepted the premise of 25hr and 150+ Ks... assuming Soriano were traded for a bobblehead (and you are eating all of his salary), who are you putting in LF that could match those numbers right now?
It doesn't matter who you put in LF because you are in the process of a teardown and rebuild. I thought the point was to get high draft picks and begin a youth movement which does not include old overpaid players.
Who they put in left doesn't matter much, but here is what does matter; Sori has a no-trade clause and until he accepts a trade then nothing else can happen. Once he is open to the idea, the Cubs then need a trade partner and that partner has to be willing to either pay a huge chunk of the contract or give up a pretty good prospect. If the Cubs don't get one or the other, then they can't move him. Paying his salary to play for another team doesn't do any good unless they get a decent trade return.

The contract was terrible, that was on Jimbo. From 2009-2012 Sori has basically been a replacement level player and that includes his 2 WAR last season. When you are paying 19 million, the player does not want to be traded, and you have zero prospects knocking on the door; you are forced to play him. All of that is on Jimbo- Thanks again!!

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You mean you can't trade someone just because you want to? Who da thunk it?

Good post!
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:41 AM

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CoachK34 wrote: You mean you can't trade someone just because you want to? Who da thunk it?

Good post!
+1

I wonder what these people do in the real world. Some scary possiblities that is for sure!

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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:42 AM

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I can't tell what Bob is preoccupied with more - Soriano or bodily functions.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 10:51 AM

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PorkChopExpress12 wrote:
CoachK34 wrote: I agree. People like Bob and 2007 are great fans! I'm a realist, but I never wish for any individuals or the team to fail


+1

It's one thing to understand the odds are very strong that the Cubs are another for a losing season. But to actively root for them to lose? That is absolute crap. Even management is not wanting to have that happen.  They want to win in the worst way. Theo said it best though. Winning 90 games and have it happen due to being lead by veterans having career years while the kids take steps back would be seen as a failure, not actually winning 90 games. That would be a welcome problem to have just as long as the young core continue to develop.

From Theo Epstein -
Now if we unfortunately suffer through a 90-loss season, to use your example, but have an unbelievable draft and lots of prospects take steps forward and other players develop in core at the big league level — it would be disappointing at the big league level … but in the big picture it will still be a successful year for the organization …. 

Porkchop - You seem to be talking crap out of both sides of your mouth - You try and rationalize the team being bad by - your quote - "It baffles me that some people just don't understand that the Cubs are trying to completely redo their franchise in every possible way therefore the MLB roster will not always look the prettiest."

Nobody is actively rooting for the team to lose but the biggest supporters of the rebuild plan have seemed to express the greatest desire for high draft picks to acquire impact players for this future sustained success.
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