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Watch Today's Game

  • RAMBLE
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Posted: 3/16/2013 11:06 AM

Watch Today's Game 


At least, you'll see hope:

Chicago Cubs @ Cubs # Cubs SS lineup vs. @ Royals 3/16: DeJesus CF, Lillibridge 3B, Rizzo 1B, Soriano LF, Vitters DH, Baez SS, Soler RF, Lopez C, Gonzalez 2B
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Posted: 3/16/2013 3:02 PM

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First WGN broadcast for Jim Deshaies too.
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Posted: 3/16/2013 3:27 PM

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Well that didn't take long. I wanted to get a look at Baez in the flesh and he homers on the first pitch he sees.  3rd homer of the first inning after DeJesus and Soriano.

Last edited 3/16/2013 3:27 PM by DoubleDown11

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Posted: 3/16/2013 3:29 PM

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Baez has ginormous bat speed. ginormous!!!!!!
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Posted: 3/16/2013 4:47 PM

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I didn't realize there was a game thread.  Two homers for Baez today.  Unfortunately, I missed the first one.
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Posted: 3/16/2013 4:52 PM

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How does Baez hit so square swinging so hard? Theo said that's what he does and that's what makes him special.

Man, he whales at it and still crushes it!
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Posted: 3/16/2013 5:18 PM

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Soler looks like he's got the Bryce Harper running eye black thing going on.
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Posted: 3/16/2013 5:26 PM

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Yay, a Japanese pitcher who doesn't have a funky and/or jerky windup (Fuji).
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Posted: 3/16/2013 6:12 PM

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why not go ahead and move baez to 3rd?  the kid will be up by end of the year.


soler was impressive as well but you are looking at a year or two.
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Posted: 3/16/2013 7:08 PM

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promar200 wrote: why not go ahead and move baez to 3rd?  the kid will be up by end of the year.
I was thinking that too but Len and Jim said that Theo/Jed are hesitant to move someone of his offensive ability from such a premium position, especially this early.  If you ask me, 3B is a premium position just because there are so few decent hitting third basemen out there.  Theo was in the booth in the second inning but I didn't have the game turned on at that point.  For those who did, anything interesting?
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Posted: 3/17/2013 10:56 AM

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promar200 wrote: why not go ahead and move baez to 3rd?  the kid will be up by end of the year.


soler was impressive as well but you are looking at a year or two.
Theo said both players have much to work on and that each player has an individual plan. He also mentioned the comp to Sheffield, but said even in the minors Shef walked more than he struck out. He had never seen a 20 year old homer on 3 straight pitches and is impresses with the powerful stroke of Baez and his ability to square up on the ball.

In more general terms he talked about selective aggressiveness and how they have systems in place to help maintain the aggressiveness while being selective in the strike zone. He thought the this was more nature than nurture, but slight improvements could be made. Also mentioned how little weight spring results carry and the importance of 2000 minor league AB's.
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Posted: 3/17/2013 11:51 AM

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absolutebadger wrote:
promar200 wrote: why not go ahead and move baez to 3rd?  the kid will be up by end of the year.


soler was impressive as well but you are looking at a year or two.
Theo said both players have much to work on and that each player has an individual plan. He also mentioned the comp to Sheffield, but said even in the minors Shef walked more than he struck out. He had never seen a 20 year old homer on 3 straight pitches and is impresses with the powerful stroke of Baez and his ability to square up on the ball.



In more general terms he talked about selective aggressiveness and how they have systems in place to help maintain the aggressiveness while being selective in the strike zone. He thought the this was more nature than nurture, but slight improvements could be made. Also mentioned how little weight spring results carry and the importance of 2000 minor league AB's.


Len took an email ? about what chance Baez and Soler have of getting a cup of coffee in the bigs this year and he said it was 0%.  Personally I think Soler has a small chance as he is 21 and showing more maturity than expected.
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Posted: 3/17/2013 2:22 PM

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Radar3454 wrote:
absolutebadger wrote:
promar200 wrote: why not go ahead and move baez to 3rd?  the kid will be up by end of the year.


soler was impressive as well but you are looking at a year or two.
Theo said both players have much to work on and that each player has an individual plan. He also mentioned the comp to Sheffield, but said even in the minors Shef walked more than he struck out. He had never seen a 20 year old homer on 3 straight pitches and is impresses with the powerful stroke of Baez and his ability to square up on the ball.



In more general terms he talked about selective aggressiveness and how they have systems in place to help maintain the aggressiveness while being selective in the strike zone. He thought the this was more nature than nurture, but slight improvements could be made. Also mentioned how little weight spring results carry and the importance of 2000 minor league AB's.


Len took an email ? about what chance Baez and Soler have of getting a cup of coffee in the bigs this year and he said it was 0%.  Personally I think Soler has a small chance as he is 21 and showing more maturity than expected.
I would think there is a better than a 0% chance for a cup of coffee. Once the minor league season ends, valuable experience can be gained just by sitting the bench in MLB games. These 2 are future stars.
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Posted: 3/17/2013 6:00 PM

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thats my whole point.


unless  he is at 3rd you are wasting time.  unless you are trading castro or moving castro to third.
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Posted: 3/17/2013 6:12 PM

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Side note. I understand it's ST but that has to be the worst camera angle I ever seen a MLB game on TV for the Cubs ever. I figure by mid-March they be gearing up more for the season and have some camera angles and stuff unless A's ST facility is so pre-historic, they don't have spots for cameras.

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Posted: 3/17/2013 6:55 PM

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hey Pork Chop, Len apologized at the beginning of the telecast and said that the A's facility, in fact, does not have a centerfield camera position. Funny thing is, I can remember watching cubs games in the 50's before they put the camera out there and it was just like today. ahhh. getting old i guess :)
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Posted: 3/17/2013 7:19 PM

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promar200 wrote: thats my whole point.


unless  he is at 3rd you are wasting time.  unless you are trading castro or moving castro to third.
Because he has more value at SS. Every player has more value at the more premium defensive position. You never know what the future holds. A huge trade could happen with Beaz or Castro. The Cubs are in a great position with 2 future stars at the toughest position. Most would love to see them both in lineup and there is a good chance that happens. He is still too far away to move him to a lesser position. SS that can play at the MLB level have little difficulty switching to another position.
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Posted: 3/18/2013 7:54 AM

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Thanks for the info, I must have missed when he said that. I was flipping between the Cubs game and college hoops.
DrakeCubsFan wrote: hey Pork Chop, Len apologized at the beginning of the telecast and said that the A's facility, in fact, does not have a centerfield camera position. Funny thing is, I can remember watching cubs games in the 50's before they put the camera out there and it was just like today. ahhh. getting old i guess :)
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Posted: 3/18/2013 11:34 AM

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promar200 wrote: thats my whole point.


unless  he is at 3rd you are wasting time.  unless you are trading castro or moving castro to third.

They're wasting time if he's up by the end of the year, but the Cubs didn't say he'll be ready in 2013 - you did.  I imagine they want him to master SS first before they decide what to do.
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Posted: 3/18/2013 12:43 PM

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absolutebadger wrote:
Radar3454 wrote:
absolutebadger wrote:
promar200 wrote: why not go ahead and move baez to 3rd?  the kid will be up by end of the year.


soler was impressive as well but you are looking at a year or two.
Theo said both players have much to work on and that each player has an individual plan. He also mentioned the comp to Sheffield, but said even in the minors Shef walked more than he struck out. He had never seen a 20 year old homer on 3 straight pitches and is impresses with the powerful stroke of Baez and his ability to square up on the ball.



In more general terms he talked about selective aggressiveness and how they have systems in place to help maintain the aggressiveness while being selective in the strike zone. He thought the this was more nature than nurture, but slight improvements could be made. Also mentioned how little weight spring results carry and the importance of 2000 minor league AB's.


Len took an email ? about what chance Baez and Soler have of getting a cup of coffee in the bigs this year and he said it was 0%.  Personally I think Soler has a small chance as he is 21 and showing more maturity than expected.
I would think there is a better than a 0% chance for a cup of coffee. Once the minor league season ends, valuable experience can be gained just by sitting the bench in MLB games. These 2 are future stars.
Both Baez and Soler will start the year a high A ball. Even if they have good years it will most likely be a couple of months before either would be promoted to AA. They would then start 2014 in AA and may make to AAA.

Most posters wanted a better player development plan in the minors and the front office has laid out part of the plan by getting 1500-2000 AB's in the minors. The front office has said they will not rush the prospects and you also have financial concerns as they advance.

You may get a cup of coffee in 2014 but it seems like 2015 is the year you could see either and that is if they have earned the promotion and shown they are developed according to the current player development plan of the front office.
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